smasher 1,055 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 The dog doesn't know he has a locator on, he will work the same way regardless,it's the terrierman who has adjusted his ways and moved with the times,for the better imo,having said that any terrier man worth his salt should be able to revert to the old ways if needs be 7 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 But only if hes had some guidance mate .The old skills are dying out fast from what i can see with tech heads the norm .Give a youth a bellman and he will dig all day take that away and see what happens .i know weve moved on but finding a terrier from other means should not be neglected .Driving a bar in over the supposed spot and putting your ear to it will give an idea if your right and by moving that about will pin point the dog .More to it obviously . 5 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 The dog doesn't know he has a locator on, he will work the same way regardless,it's the terrierman who has adjusted his ways and moved with the times,for the better imo,having said that any terrier man worth his salt should be able to revert to the old ways if needs be exactly...no need for 33 paragraphs to tell someone that .... 1 Quote Link to post
Shamo 319 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 The steady Terrier, with a good voice given chance to thoroughly checks a place out and work it's stuff to an Oven, will be relegated to the same place as the Bar and the dirty Ear. Edited to say a definite yes to the original question 3 Quote Link to post
marshman 7,757 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 The steady Terrier, with a good voice given chance to thoroughly checks a place out and work it's stuff to an Oven, will be relegated to the same place as the Bar and the dirty Ear. why will a steady terrier be relegated ? Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Does modern technology reduce the skill needed by a terrierman The above is the original question, Lee isnt asking about deep digs, hard terriers etc etc, he's asking if terrier locating systems reduce the skills required by a terrierman, there can only be 1 answer......Yes 1 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Does modern technology reduce the skill needed by a terrierman The above is the original question, Lee isnt asking about deep digs, hard terriers etc etc, he's asking if terrier locating systems reduce the skills required by a terrierman, there can only be 1 answer......Yes you cant loose it if you never had it to start with... 1 Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 No-one mentioned losing anything Does modern technology reduce the skill needed by a terrierman The above is the original question, Lee isnt asking about deep digs, hard terriers etc etc, he's asking if terrier locating systems reduce the skills required by a terrierman, there can only be 1 answer......Yes you cant loose it if you never had it to start with... No-one mentioned losing anything Quote Link to post
marshman 7,757 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I don't know about losing skill of the terrier man I'm just pleased if I come across a dig and lads have back filled properly , not so much a skill as a bit of decency I know . 4 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Fat Man's the son of Mister Bellman and Madame Flint. They created a device to improve quality of dogs. No i just have respect for my terriers,thats where me and you differ because at this day and age any man that lets a terrier to ground without a locator on has little or no respect for there terriers.I dug pre-locator,not by choice because they were not invented then but soon as they were i bought a locator.Do you inoculate your dogs or just leave them and if they live they live.I lost a litter of pups many years ago through parvo viris,no inoculations back then but i have not lost a pup to parvo since as i jab them against it now,another great invention same as the locator,TECHNOLOGY. Quote Link to post
tillearthdouspart 100 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I think we have lost the old skill which was something that needed to be tought for a long period of time which could come in handy when tecnology fails as it has so many time. And we are very dependant on the box for obvious reasons . But its a precious gift carried down fron the men of old digs and i think it still has its place in our modern digging days. Altought im sure it wont last . 1 Quote Link to post
fireman 10,884 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Are the old skills your on about dropping another dog in when you can't hear the first one,or is it the use of TNT without blowing your dog up or maybe trenching on and totaly fcuking up a earth or sett when the dogs gone mute? ..not everything old school was good and a middle ground in technique is what is needed in this day and age imo.. 2 Quote Link to post
black stuff 129 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Their was a lot less terrier men before the locater came out.On yer knees all the time wet through wast for everyone. 3 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Lots of earth's as well were left open or not back filled properly by fellas who were out years ago! Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 its knowledge...not SKILL finds the terrier... where to bar where to listen too.... what too listen for... and the art of blocking out the wind the rain the wet under your jeans you shouldn't have wore out... the banter going on beside you work the next day and many other things...... its tuning in to doing a job professionally and humanely....to be honest the terrier and quarry really don't mind whats going on above... there quite happy sizing each other up... after all its only natural they encounter the same thing daily with territory food breeding and so on...just humans love to tell folk they have it sussed when they don't! get out there answer your own questions... that's terrierwork! 1 Quote Link to post
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