Licence

[airbourne 128]

hi all

my licence is up for renewal, well it ran out on the 2nd June still not received my new one, all monies paid and received conformation, rang them end of may they said they have a back log and not to worry, has anybody else had this happen to them ???

cheers

[The one 8,529]

Aye and its going to get worse there running fao's down from 37 to 14 appently mine said when your going for a renewal get in plenty bullets and cartridges

[Deker 3,478]

hi all

my licence is up for renewal, well it ran out on the 2nd June still not received my new one, all monies paid and received conformation, rang them end of may they said they have a back log and not to worry, has anybody else had this happen to them ???

cheers

 

Its the old chestnut which has been round more times than I can remember.

 

Some regions say not to worry, others refuse a temporary certificate (others grant them) and then others tell you to lodge guns with a RFD as you are currently looking at a 5 year jail term for illegal possession of firearms!

 

Take you pick!

Edited June 9, 2015 by Deker

[Alsone 789]

I think this is another area where the BASC needs to get involved to get a National Firearms Policy that forces the police to issue a temporary certificate where the existing certificate expires before it can be processed, whether it's the fault of the force or a late submission from the holder. It's unreasonable in my view to have an incoherent policy that varies from force to force especially where members of the public are left in some circumstances committing a serious offence and only free from prosecution at the grace of the police, who lets face it, aren't always all trustable.

 

With all that in mind, personally I'd transfer them and the ammo to a friend or lodge them with a RFD unless you have a temporary cert. Never rely soley on the discretion of the police, especially where firearms and strict liability offences are concerned.

[airbourne 128]

Aye and its going to get worse there running fao's down from 37 to 14 appently mine said when your going for a renewal get in plenty bullets and cartridges

never thought about stocking up with ammo hope i get it back before Autumn when i start shooting on a regular basis

[airbourne 128]

 

hi all

my licence is up for renewal, well it ran out on the 2nd June still not received my new one, all monies paid and received conformation, rang them end of may they said they have a back log and not to worry, has anybody else had this happen to them ???

cheers

 

Its the old chestnut which has been round more times than I can remember.

 

Some regions say not to worry, others refuse a temporary certificate (others grant them) and then others tell you to lodge guns with a RFD as you are currently looking at a 5 year jail term for illegal possession of firearms!

 

Take you pick!

 

 

 

I think this is another area where the BASC needs to get involved to get a National Firearms Policy that forces the police to issue a temporary certificate where the existing certificate expires before it can be processed, whether it's the fault of the force or a late submission from the holder. It's unreasonable in my view to have an incoherent policy that varies from force to force especially where members of the public are left in some circumstances committing a serious offence and only free from prosecution at the grace of the police, who lets face it, aren't always all trustable.

 

With all that in mind, personally I'd transfer them and the ammo to a friend or lodge them with a RFD unless you have a temporary cert. Never rely soley on the discretion of the police, especially where firearms and strict liability offences are concern

thanks for the replies that is going to help me sleep at night

[charlie caller 3,654]

Nice to see the recent hike in license fees is being put to good use then

[Alsone 789]

 

I think this is another area where the BASC needs to get involved to get a National Firearms Policy that forces the police to issue a temporary certificate where the existing certificate expires before it can be processed, whether it's the fault of the force or a late submission from the holder. It's unreasonable in my view to have an incoherent policy that varies from force to force especially where members of the public are left in some circumstances committing a serious offence and only free from prosecution at the grace of the police, who lets face it, aren't always all trustable.

 

With all that in mind, personally I'd transfer them and the ammo to a friend or lodge them with a RFD unless you have a temporary cert. Never rely soley on the discretion of the police, especially where firearms and strict liability offences are concern

thanks for the replies that is going to help me sleep at night

 

 

You'll probably be fine. I'd just be cautious. If in doubt, transfer them and be safe.

[Deker 3,478]

 

thanks for the replies that is going to help me sleep at night

 

 

Don't lose any sleep, it's only 5 years, the length of a FAC/SGC, and you know how quickly that goes...and when you get out you won't have any future worries about Firearms either, you will be banned for life.

 

[lksopener 105]

Ring up and tell them if you new certificate isn't ready you want a section 7 sending immediately as you are not prepared to be without a license.

 

Mine magically was delivered the day after that request.

 

This is assuming you got your renewal in within the stipulated time frame.

[airbourne 128]

 

 

thanks for the replies that is going to help me sleep at night

 

 

Don't lose any sleep, it's only 5 years, the length of a FAC/SGC, and you know how quickly that goes...and when you get out you won't have any future worries about Firearms either, you will be banned for life.

 

 

cheers Decker after thinking about it I thought s*d it if I get sent down that would be 5 years not paying council tax, tax on my wages, I would get free meals free accommodation and a roof over my head and I could become a armchair hunter they seem to get everything else inside and by the time I get out I would be at retirement age

[Alsone 789]

All joking aside, just be aware these are strict liability offences which means there's no discretion in this. If you were to be taken to Court, you would be found guilty irrespective of it being the police's fault or whatever they said. All the Court would be allowed to consider is "were in possession of a firearm" and "did you had a valid licence". They couldn't take into account the reasons why you didn't or the fact that it was not your fault.

 

So be careful.

 

Gun + lack of valid licence = conviction.

Edited June 10, 2015 by Alsone

[airbourne 128]

Just rang them up again they said that it could take up to 4 weeks to issue, and that it is the same all over the country, i told them that by not having a licence i am breaking the law, they said it would be them that took me to court but they would not have a leg to stand on because it is their fault that they are behind on issuing licences, they assured me that i will be ok ,i asked about a section 7 and if i want one i would have to e-mail them to request one

[SportingShooter 0]

Email them then

[lksopener 105]

Email them as above.