Foxhounds

[spindolero 1,111]

A lurched will hunt by .sound.sight.scent.my bull whip does it perfectly cause I trained it that way.for tracking wounded ran on quarry.hell go out as far as needed. Then straight return.when Thiers 3o foxhounds ripping a fox up don't mean it will do one single handed

 

in fairness these lurchers aren't tracking wounded game, they're casting out to find a something, Some of these places are barren as hell, like hunting on the moon so the dog puts in a lot of work before it even gets near to the quarry.

most of them seem to be purpose bred from worker to worker with collie/hound/bull in various amounts - although I hear GWP blood is being introduced lately

[Red Center 165]

 

A lurched will hunt by .sound.sight.scent.my bull whip does it perfectly cause I trained it that way.for tracking wounded ran on quarry.hell go out as far as needed. Then straight return.when Thiers 3o foxhounds ripping a fox up don't mean it will do one single handed

 

in fairness these lurchers aren't tracking wounded game, they're casting out to find a something, Some of these places are barren as hell, like hunting on the moon so the dog puts in a lot of work before it even gets near to the quarry.

most of them seem to be purpose bred from worker to worker with collie/hound/bull in various amounts - although I hear GWP blood is being introduced lately

 

Yeah there's a bit of pointer blood being introduced here in Oz too, especially in pig dogs. My mate's best dog is a staghound x pointer, at 5 years old it's caught an unbelievable amount of pigs all over the country. Awesome dog

[roybo 2,873]

 

The one at the end of darbos vid had a feathered tail and pins showing like a saluki lol,they can certainly shift,what kind of distance are these races?

 

when i get a min ile start a thread about trial hounds..even more so our trial hounds..from pups triaining and running

i'd be very interested to learn a bit on something I know nothing about thanks mate look cracking dogs.

If i'm ever up that,i must try to catch a meet

[Dan McDonough 560]

I have a leggy July female that can really roll but she's about a five hour dog. If she couldn't have caught it in five hours though, it was a very strong coyote. She's getting a little old now but still fights like a big male. I have a friend that has a theory about Julys. He thinks that at some point there was Saluki used to make them. Judging by the coat colors they display and the way some of them seem to run faster as the race goes on, I'd say he's on to something. I've not heard anyone else come up with this theory but he's got some good points.

[ands 559]

The GPS collars, a bit like terrier locator collars do away with the need for a dog that speaks, i for one am all for a bit of music from a dog that s driven wild by a scent.

[darbo 4,776]

Do you run trail hounds darbo?

Atb

No chicken man but have watched them. i have spent a lot of time in cumbria i used to follow a beagle pack there years ago which i prefered to watch.

[Qbgrey 4,170]

 

 

A lurched will hunt by .sound.sight.scent.my bull whip does it perfectly cause I trained it that way.for tracking wounded ran on quarry.hell go out as far as needed. Then straight return.when Thiers 3o foxhounds ripping a fox up don't mean it will do one single handed

in fairness these lurchers aren't tracking wounded game, they're casting out to find a something, Some of these places are barren as hell, like hunting on the moon so the dog puts in a lot of work before it even gets near to the quarry.

most of them seem to be purpose bred from worker to worker with collie/hound/bull in various amounts - although I hear GWP blood is being introduced lately

Yup see that point mate.I'm interested in this topic the pros and cons.I'm no expert on these foxhounds but keen to read more about it

[spindolero 1,111]

 

 

A lurched will hunt by .sound.sight.scent.my bull whip does it perfectly cause I trained it that way.for tracking wounded ran on quarry.hell go out as far as needed. Then straight return.when Thiers 3o foxhounds ripping a fox up don't mean it will do one single handed

in fairness these lurchers aren't tracking wounded game, they're casting out to find a something, Some of these places are barren as hell, like hunting on the moon so the dog puts in a lot of work before it even gets near to the quarry.

most of them seem to be purpose bred from worker to worker with collie/hound/bull in various amounts - although I hear GWP blood is being introduced lately

Yup see that point mate.I'm interested in this topic the pros and cons.I'm no expert on these foxhounds but keen to read more about it

 

 

Neither am I mate, just commenting on what I have seen.

[Chicken_man 1,651]

 

 

 

 

I did see a American bred hound on here one time a can't mind the name of the breed but it looked as racy and as any lurcher .

July hounds are supposed to have some greyhound in them. They are a little leggier it seems than running Walkers. Both are mostly used for coyote's, and run to catch.

 

What I don't understand is the value of larger hounds for hunting. I have some experience with bear hounds, and they are generally smaller. They may have to run for several hours, and have enough left to keep a bear in a tree, or keep him pegged while not getting killed if he won't climb. 45-60# is about average for them.

Usually it's the type of country you hunt that dictates the size of your hounds, not the size of your quarry.

With the mounted packs a good fast gallop is what's wanted not a slow stop start type hunt. So for a fast hunt a fast leaner type of hound is wanted.

With hunting the pack must work together to hopefully outwit the quarry but with trailing the pack is competing with one another and it's the line that dictates the course.

Interestingly the Grand Canyon hounds in the USA keep 3 or 4 couple of 3/4 foxhounds 1/4 saluki for getting to and accounting for the coyote when he makes for open ground.

 

Perthshire Keeper or Darbo, does Tony Dobbin still keep trail hounds ? He was one of the best National Hunt jockeys IMO and I heard once that he has some outstanding trail hounds.

Yeh , Tony Dobin was a good pilot. Won a few quid on him.

Atb

[Chicken_man 1,651]

 

 

Do you run trail hounds darbo?

Atb

No chicken man but have watched them. i have spent a lot of time in cumbria i used to follow a beagle pack there years ago which i prefered to watch.

Ok mate :-)

[straight2hand 303]

This is my puppy 3/4 Greyhound/1/4 Fellhound x Saluki/Collie/Whippet/Greyhound, I worked the original first cross Fell/Grey and owned the brother to this pups sire. This cross grafts with stamina to burn and really strong animals all round none of the dogs in this line have ever gave mouth, I think the foxhound cross has worked.

[neil cooney 10,416]

Did you find the hound cross biddable Straight2hand ?

[bird 10,004]

This is my puppy 3/4 Greyhound/1/4 Fellhound x Saluki/Collie/Whippet/Greyhound, I worked the original first cross Fell/Grey and owned the brother to this pups sire. This cross grafts with stamina to burn and really strong animals all round none of the dogs in this line have ever gave mouth, I think the foxhound cross has worked.

are fell hounds quite on the hunt , compared to other sent hounds ? watching the vid I got the feeling they were, just senting but going flat out after sent, not like normal hounds . a 3/8 fell x 5 /8 grey sounds good % you ever seen any bred like that .?

[straight2hand 303]

 

This is my puppy 3/4 Greyhound/1/4 Fellhound x Saluki/Collie/Whippet/Greyhound, I worked the original first cross Fell/Grey and owned the brother to this pups sire. This cross grafts with stamina to burn and really strong animals all round none of the dogs in this line have ever gave mouth, I think the foxhound cross has worked.

are fell hounds quite on the hunt , compared to other sent hounds ? watching the vid I got the feeling they were, just senting but going flat out after sent, not like normal hounds . a 3/8 fell x 5 /8 grey sounds good % you ever seen any bred like tha

 

I think the fellhound does give mouth in a pack but obviously when you pick a pup you choose one thrown to the greyhound as you don't want something too heavy, The first cross (Tan his name was) certainly never opened while hunting neither did his sister Rosie. These are my uncles lines he chose the Fell as it is a racy-er form of the foxhound and it takes some set of lung to run up those fells all day! He thought the Foxhound would be too bulky and the fell would produce less wastage. Tan stood at 25 tts and was a bulky lad but I tell you now I would say that dog was as strong as a bull X, Im not just saying that - I will try and find a pic of him although I dont know if we have any. He would take all game and was a good rabbiting dog but like all first X dogs he had a weakness and that was the speed to match a hare. I pulled a preban fallow with him single handed, he was strong as an ox but gave everything you would expect for a lurcher as a first x would go! run, jump, catch and carry.

[straight2hand 303]

Did you find the hound cross biddable Straight2hand ?

These dogs do everything you would expect of a lurcher and I have always worked a lurcher off the lead to heel on the lamp, Tan (the first x) is the only lurcher my uncle has owned (and he has had many in about 35 years in the game) that actually had a pop at someone who approached him while out lamping - hair standing up and teeth out the lot!

He did everything required run, jump, catch and carry. The sister did the same, they just lacked that speed for a hare. My uncle bred the lines and I had the dog for two seasons and believe me my uncle couldn't tolerate a lurcher that didn't do as it was told.