Foxhounds

[bird 9,969]

went to a show today,

had nice day, it was well turned out, some nice dogs there, and met some nice/friendly folks there .got a 3rd with Bryn in veterans class lol. Had look at the hounds as well, always like seeing the hounds what ever the types, but never realised how big some of the foxhounds were. norm if they at shows prob seen them out side the ring etc. , but to day was close up looking at them, feck me I thought my 1x gsd x grey Buck was big , most were as tall as him, bloody hell they a lot heavier easy than him. they got massive bone to them , some of male hounds got head 's like bucket . a mate of mine had a bullx grey x back foxhound grey few years back and said it was hell of a dog, crunch a fox like a rabbit., good pace, good stamina, well after seeing these pure hounds today, it easy to see why .

[morton 5,368]

One thing i realised a long time ago,get a lurcher into the same condition and breeding of the average Foxhound and your nearly there,the rest is choice.

[bird 9,969]

One thing i realised a long time ago,get a lurcher into the same condition and breeding of the average Foxhound and your nearly there,the rest is choice.

was talking one of the lads looking after them, and he told me some of the breeding of some hounds go back to nearly 200 years ago .

[morton 5,368]

Many,many years ago i watched an Hound trail above Brough,25 miles,through binoculars i watched the full extent of the nights activity,them fecking hounds set out panting and finished panting at the same speed,they made Salukis look second rate,i still cannot fathom why i never put the Foxhound into my Lurcher breeding,nose,wind,desire and attitude,i may have been colour blinded,i detest coloured lurchers,yet them Foxhounds have far more to offer than the majority of what is in the mix with many Lurchers.

[bird 9,969]

Many,many years ago i watched an Hound trail above Brough,25 miles,through binoculars i watched the full extent of the nights activity,them fecking hounds set out panting and finished panting at the same speed,they made Salukis look second rate,i still cannot fathom why i never put the Foxhound into my Lurcher breeding,nose,wind,desire and attitude,i may have been colour blinded,i detest coloured lurchers,yet them Foxhounds have far more to offer than the majority of what is in the mix with many Lurchers.

from what I was told, that bit foxhound deff peps them up a bit in a lurcher x , they were very impressive animals .

[Bush Rummager 4,765]

Mounted packs breed em that way Bird.

Built like a shithouse, slow em down so the osses can keep up with them.

Fell hounds alot more rangy.. leaner.. faster... LOL!!

[bird 9,969]

Mounted packs breed em that way Bird.

Built like a shithouse, slow em down so the osses can keep up with them.

Fell hounds alot more rangy.. leaner.. faster... LOL!!

yeh I see what you mean , fell hounds what I seen on the box looked a lot different, as you say rangy/leaner , put one of them fell hounds x 2nd gen bull x grey what dog you have there grit/stamina, good feet , and not bad pace I reckon .

[Bush Rummager 4,765]

 

Mounted packs breed em that way Bird.Built like a shithouse, slow em down so the osses can keep up with them.Fell hounds alot more rangy.. leaner.. faster... LOL!!

yeh I see what you mean , fell hounds what I seen on the box looked a lot different, as you say rangy/leaner , put one of them fell hounds x 2nd gen bull x grey what dog you have there grit/stamina, good feet , and not bad pace I reckon .

If i could 'pick one off the shelf'..... i would tip my wallet upside down for one of that breeding Ray.

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

Many,many years ago i watched an Hound trail above Brough,25 miles,through binoculars i watched the full extent of the nights activity,them fecking hounds set out panting and finished panting at the same speed,they made Salukis look second rate,i still cannot fathom why i never put the Foxhound into my Lurcher breeding,nose,wind,desire and attitude,i may have been colour blinded,i detest coloured lurchers,yet them Foxhounds have far more to offer than the majority of what is in the mix with many Lurchers.

we have 40 odd "rag" hounds and have 18 of them in full running spec right now running 3-4 days a week you cant beat trial hounds! and when their done racing their dam good working hounds too!

[northern lad 2,292]

Youre not wrong Ray ,around Christmas we were ferreting over Cheshire and the farmer warned us the hunt was coming through later in the morning.....we did the part they were expected to come through first and moved out of the way.The hounds clearly hadn't read the script and appeared from nowhere,about 30 of them,heading straight for the longnets couldn't believe the size of the things when they came round the end of the hedge we were working Hounds went over the nets like theyd done it a hundred times,the guy at the front (presumably MFH) tipped his hat to us "morning gents ,spot of ferreting?" and away they went, nets all intact Very large/powerful animals indeed...

[Red Center 165]

Mate of mine breeds foxhounds for trailing deer. They tend to be a bit stockier to handle the thicker forests they need to work but still they impress me every time I see them work. All day and night those hounds will go without looking for a breather

[neil cooney 10,416]

 

Many,many years ago i watched an Hound trail above Brough,25 miles,through binoculars i watched the full extent of the nights activity,them fecking hounds set out panting and finished panting at the same speed,they made Salukis look second rate,i still cannot fathom why i never put the Foxhound into my Lurcher breeding,nose,wind,desire and attitude,i may have been colour blinded,i detest coloured lurchers,yet them Foxhounds have far more to offer than the majority of what is in the mix with many Lurchers.

we have 40 odd "rag" hounds and have 18 of them in full running spec right now running 3-4 days a week you cant beat trial hounds! and when their done racing their dam good working hounds too!

 

PK, does the trail hound not stay mute when switched to the real thing ?

I admire trail hounds for what they are and the little bit of the sport I've seen I liked, but it's not hunting.

 

On the subject of hound cross lurchers ? My own lurcher has foxhound in her and has an excellent nose and I remember years ago a friend brought one on a hunt and it caught and killed a fox that bolted. But the terrier stayed with another fox and for the hour or so it took us to dig to the terrier the lurcher sat beside the earth with the dead fox in it's mouth.

Someone mentioned Saluki's ?

Before the Saluki cross became common here in Ireland the hound cross was very popular among the coursing fraternity and one bitch that springs to mind was John Ks famous bitch "Chorus" who was a hound cross.

[Wales1234 5,546]

Always thought about dropping some hound into my lurcher line ! And saying that I'm starting my search for a good day dog to put over my blue bitch in two years time something with a. Really good nose and plenty of grit so if anyone's got one pm me reason I'm looking know is so I can see the dog work a few times before making my decision

[Blackdog92 2,047]

One of my sheepdogs has foxhound in him not to far down the line and he has thrown a bit that way as hes built more like a hound than your normal sheepdog hes got a big head and massive feet and stamina to go all day hes not the fastest but has a good pace. I would rather that than have an hour and a half of flying round at top speed then f***ed for the rest of the day like another dog i have. He sounds like a hound aswell when he gets behind some sheep to shift them on.

Edited June 8, 2015 by Blackdog92

[whippet 99 2,613]

heres my theory on it , if your adding any amount of foxhound too running dog ie lurcher , then exspect it too hunt like a hound , yeah it would add size and confirmation , it may open up when hunting , nose too the ground but there hounds for a pupose and I don't really see the point in mixing with running dog . modern English pretty fast over open ground but then lack in drawing because of size, I cant see the benefits too adding hound too running dogs , if you want lurchers too hunt like hounds then add what you like , but why not just use perfectly suitable hound , lurchers are lurchers for purpose , hounds are hounds for purpose ,choose one or the other , you out cross them then you just aswell flip a coin . these lurchers by a.edwards apparently have hound , or my guess would be he ran them with hounds ?

this is one of the silly things what will mess up good lurcher breeding I personally think , ,start out crossing there will be problem after problem , imo