Jord M 148 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) Double Edited June 6, 2015 by Jord M 1 Quote Link to post
Flacko 1,742 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Like look of them mate tidy atb Flacko 1 Quote Link to post
Tozer 385 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 There are deer dog`s & there are dog`s that take deer, the difference is in the mental attitude of the dog to get the job over quickly whether that be in the open or woodland. Most dog`s will take to the job/indeed many develop a real taste for it & i think this is the predator/prey instinct of an animal in distress that encourage`s buck fever as i call it,. However taking deer become`s a ragged affair for many dog`s especially when 2 or more dog`s are involved be that by accident or design & no sensible hunter should enjoy suffering & the very vocal affair which tends to occur in such circumstance`s. Deer long since have lost the commercial value that was once enjoyed by many hunters but to me a proper deer dog should have a mindset that ensure`s more edible meat at the end of the day rather than being fit only for ferret food & a throat hold is probably the best way to take deer i have found(in pre ban days) Deer are more widespread now than ever & at present doe`s have fawn`s & they find the seclusion of the cover & tree`s around motorways etc to be ideal especially when the lack of natural backdrop take`s shooting as a means of control out of the equation. Nowaday`s more dogmen will come into contact with deer purely by accident & this is a damn nuisance at the best of time`s where a simple walk with your dog or dog`s can become an incident that involves crossing a road. 20yrs ago i found that up here in Scotland at our show`s under 24inch was regarded as a rabbiting dog & the over`s as hare or deer dog`s with deerhound blood prevalent in such classes . However i have seen many crosses since then that done the job pre ban & probably the best i saw was my mates saluki X greyhound from Tor of Dartmoor. Indeed at the time he was able to sell the roe to a gamedealer but after 1 night where 6 roe were taken & i had the job of carrying them back to the car in the dark & then gutting them im pretty sure i never wanted to see another 1 in my life. Halcyon pre ban day`s You have answered my questions with that one, I have seen a few video's where dogs are just taking the back leg of the deer, but I was wondering if some dogs can end it quickly. Quote Link to post
DazAllison1 556 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 There are deer dog`s & there are dog`s that take deer, the difference is in the mental attitude of the dog to get the job over quickly whether that be in the open or woodland. Most dog`s will take to the job/indeed many develop a real taste for it & i think this is the predator/prey instinct of an animal in distress that encourage`s buck fever as i call it,. However taking deer become`s a ragged affair for many dog`s especially when 2 or more dog`s are involved be that by accident or design & no sensible hunter should enjoy suffering & the very vocal affair which tends to occur in such circumstance`s. Deer long since have lost the commercial value that was once enjoyed by many hunters but to me a proper deer dog should have a mindset that ensure`s more edible meat at the end of the day rather than being fit only for ferret food & a throat hold is probably the best way to take deer i have found(in pre ban days) Deer are more widespread now than ever & at present doe`s have fawn`s & they find the seclusion of the cover & tree`s around motorways etc to be ideal especially when the lack of natural backdrop take`s shooting as a means of control out of the equation. Nowaday`s more dogmen will come into contact with deer purely by accident & this is a damn nuisance at the best of time`s where a simple walk with your dog or dog`s can become an incident that involves crossing a road. 20yrs ago i found that up here in Scotland at our show`s under 24inch was regarded as a rabbiting dog & the over`s as hare or deer dog`s with deerhound blood prevalent in such classes . However i have seen many crosses since then that done the job pre ban & probably the best i saw was my mates saluki X greyhound from Tor of Dartmoor. Indeed at the time he was able to sell the roe to a gamedealer but after 1 night where 6 roe were taken & i had the job of carrying them back to the car in the dark & then gutting them im pretty sure i never wanted to see another 1 in my life. Halcyon pre ban day`s Im down in Ayrshire mate and their 10 a penny, last few years they just seemed to have exploded in numbers Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 I'm talking fallow in woods hunted and caught in woods no fields ?well if you have any thoughts or pride for your dog, running through woods at break neck, speed its heart in the mouth stuff, its a huge sigh of relief when your dog pushes its quarry out from the wood into the open,why would you want to burst your dog up????? one branch, or stick standing the wrong way and the parties over, or a huge vet bill, and dog probably disabled for life, Yes I know its a young mans game, 4 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,490 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Got a lot of pride for my dogs but when it was legal we wasn't gone avoid woodland walks same as if you put anything up in the woods theirs a chance best you can do is educate the dogs to run the woods Quote Link to post
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Anyone know of any planned dh/lurcher- bullx matings being planned ? Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) I know looks don't mean much but I like the look of that dog Edited to add, tried to comment on Jord m's picture of that powerful looking beast but for some reason it didn't attach Edited June 6, 2015 by Silversnake Quote Link to post
tilimangro 1,013 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 In the 80s and 90s I was filling freezers with a dh x gig and a saluki grey Last dog I owned was a beddy grey who was fecking wed to deer He would scent hunt them then course them If I was looking for a deer dog now it would be a dh xgh 1 Quote Link to post
snizle06 202 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Best I ever seen was a deerhound greyhound about 30 inches would whip them over for fun mainly sika. He made it look easy Quote Link to post
Tozer 385 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I don't know much, but taking deer with lurchers interests me, I found these for sale and this the sort of thing I would think of as a deer/all-round dog, I can see a bit of bull does a long way, but these make me looks twice. Deer/grey x saluki/grey/collie/grey Saluki/grey x deer/grey (can't save the picture) http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/113302309/saluki-greyhound-deerhound-greyhound.html 2 Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,784 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Anyone see the article in the Western Morning News yesterday about the "cured" deer poaching lurcher? Please post a link if you can. Cheers, D. 1 Quote Link to post
Wild-Bill 500 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 It's on this forum under "Andrew nows his stuff" 1 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Nice type that Tozer, i would like to think i'd do the job just fine. Quote Link to post
Tozer 385 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 I could also see back in the day you could have a dog like that ferreting, rabbiting taking hare and deer as well as the odd fox. I have seen a few bigger lurchers I like, I do like deer greys as well. Quote Link to post
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