cocker 2,654 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 a piece from todays papers The reasons why England and Wales voted so convincingly for a Conservative Government on Thursday will be debated forever, but one of the most obvious is the complete rejection of both Labour and Liberal Democrats in any constituency that has a hint of the countryside about it. This is graphically illustrated by the post-election constituency map. Actually, suggesting that the voters rejected those parties is probably the wrong way round. The truth is that those parties have rejected rural voters. In 2015 Labour’s policy offer to the countryside was little more than a series of threats about everything from gun ownership to badger culling and extraordinarily the Liberal Democrats, despite having many sensible MPs in rural areas, also managed to exude indifference towards the countryside at a national level. As a Conservative MP I should probably stop now and leave both parties to stew in the mire they have created, but there is a bigger issue here about countryside ‘representation’. What these results tell us politicians (of all parties) is that the notion that we have to endorse the animal rights agenda to be successful has now been thoroughly tested, and completely failed. When I first stood against the sitting Labour MP in my constituency of Carmarthen West and Pembrokeshire South in 2010 no less a figure than Brian May, guitar hero and animal rights champion, made the long trek here to campaign against me. The League Against Cruel Sports (in breach of Charity Commission guidance) spent the entire election campaign pursuing me around my patch trying to ‘expose’ my links to the Countryside Alliance, an organisation I had fairly publicly led for the preceding 7 years. I won, as did all the other pro-hunting, pro-shooting, pro-farming, pro-common sense candidates animal rights groups campaigned against, and our results compared favourably with our colleagues in urban and rural constituencies. Brian May came again this time and yet my majority increased well in line with the national picture, as did all my other colleagues who were targeted by badger marchers, hunt sabs and assorted animal rights activists. None of this should come as a surprise. The shining example of common sense in the Labour party Kate Hoey, who I was proud to serve as Chief Executive when she was Chairman of the Countryside Alliance, has been abused by animal rights extremists, stalked by eccentrics in fox outfits and even had animal rights candidates standing against her in her inner-London constituency. At this election she increased her majority, just as she did in 2010. Is there another Labour MP in the country who can say that? The message is clear to all of us in politics. Pandering to a tiny minority of noisy extremists won’t get us elected, it will get us rejected. Part of the current malaise in politics is voter exasperation in the blandness of us all. MPs who stand proudly in defence of important principles are like fresh air to our cynical punters, and generate support and respect, even from those they may offend in the process. Simon Hart is the MP for Carmarthen West and Pembrokeshire South. When he won the seat from Labour in 2010 he became the first Conservative MP to represent any part of Carmarthenshire since 1851. In the 2015 election he increased his majority to over 6,000. Tags: animal rights, Conservatives, Countryside, David Cameron, election 2015, Kate Hoey, Labour, Liberal Democrats, rural vote Back to top Quote MultiQuote Edit 8 Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 keep at em lads, the gap is closing david-cameron-wants-overturn-hunting-5287874 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) My MP is Labour I asked him months ago had his opinions changed at all since he voted for the Ban in 2004 he replied" No" I asked him in an open vote for repeal how would he vote he said with his conscience and no repeal. Yesterday I contacted my local councillors some Labour and some Conservative the majority said they wanted repeal in the light of present evidence and with hindsight the law was wrongly introduced and they would be contacting our Labour MP to inform him of their views and feelings.Lets see if they can pressure the MP to represent the peoples views instead of his own . Edited May 18, 2015 by desertbred 6 Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 we need a letter making up and sticking on here so lads can copy it and post it to there mps, 4 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 if you want to contact your MP or MEP for the repeal of the hunting ban contact them through www.writetothem.com enter your post code and go ahead 2 Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 what ban the 2005 hunting ban that tony blair, the rspca, lesbians, and hippys, and numerous other misfits, have imposed against normal people who like to hunt with dogs 10 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 After reading that letter it's nearly identical to what happened in Eire in the last general election except that the former government didn't meddle with all fieldsports they meddled with just one hunt. Many politicians admitted that in the middle of a serious recession that one of the most important factors influencing people votes was the messing around of hunting. One T.D. when we met him in his office said " I'm going to be out of a job over a bloody hunt". Hopefully ye will win repeal over there and let future British governments know not to f**k around with the countryside. Fingers crossed. 5 Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 is that why we all walked around hyde park i thought it was for tea and cakes and steak afterwards 1 Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 yeah thats why willow, and maybe we might meet there this year ?????????? il buy you tea and cakes Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I am waiting to hear from my mps, this is what i wrote to them it takes a minute or two that all, please cut and paste if you want....... dear i would like to ask for your support in the repeal of the 2005 hunting with dogs act, as promised by david cameron, your opinion or views on this matter would be greatfully received, i personaly would like to see a repeal of this ban as soon as possible, in anticipation of your reply Yours sincerely, 4 Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 yeah thats why willow, and maybe we might meet there this year ?????????? il buy you tea and cakes not the steak it was dear there last time lol 1 Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 refer to my previous post i believe it when it happens Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 refer to my previous post i believe it when it happens Are you doing anything to ensure it happens ? Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 refer to my previous post i believe it when it happens Are you doing anything to ensure it happens ? of course but i really don't think it will do much good the covernment just love to lie so i will believe it when it happens Quote Link to post
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