About Books And The New Authors Nowadays.

[paulus 26]

is there a show due soon or something

[Lutra Lutra 611]

LL....Me thinks you talk too much for everyone to hear.......Not a good habit in the terrier realm.

Griz, another one who hasn't any facts on this forum !

 

Your readiness to educate those already educated tells me your more of a scholer than a digger ,a watcher not a doer.Your long winded post of earlier about seeing men entering more than one and using a dog solely for hole ending was pitiful for the fact you never mentioned once how you dealt with those men .I care not how big or well known a lad is if those stunts were pulled in my presence they would be told and as fatman said no more outings with them .

i fully understand the personal need to impart some of the knowledge we gain over the years but on here every word will be scrutinised as if you are the enemy ,you are unknown here and as yet untrusted .

Its as if you have set out to create some sort of following ,typical of a previous member and that never turned out good either .i sent you a pm previous with an apology about who you were but its now deleted and withdrawn while theres still doubt in my mind .

FoxDropper, then I was beginning to accept that you was somekind of good person. Obviously I was wrong! I was going to send you a PM thanking you for your apology regarding your personal attack upon myself in your statement as to the regards of myself being Johnny Bluck. Another one who hasn't got any idea about someone he has never met. I noticed your personal attacks towards Wirralcountryman, who seems to me genuine nice person. FoxDropper, you are totally out of order in your assessment of myself. You mentioned about myself being more of a scholar than a (digger).That was laughable! You made statements about people entering more than one terrier to ground, my answer to that is, you haven't been out with many terrier men then. Perhaps you don't want to, which of course would be your decision. On occasions a person can find oneself in an awkward position in order of not having any say in a certain situation. Why should one have to be scrutinized about ones personal details? Like a certain person said about yourself, we don't see you posting photographs and divulging your personal information. Because you have been on such a site for certain period of time, you think you have all the answers, you think you are somekind of "top dog" but in reality you have an attitude of not being very nice. 'You even think i'm still Johnny Bluck. Pathetic! In all honesty, and don't let anyone doubt my integrity, I am somewhat saddened by many peoples scurrilious attacks upon myself for just having an opinion and first and foremost for asking a question about something as simple as books.Have you or anyone else heard me pulling you or anyone else to pieces? No I haven't ! If it is the certain terrier mens mentality to assume what I have said in previous posts was incorrect, then that is fine by me. Everyone has an opinion. To be truthful as always, it is in our own ranks that we have done the most damage to the image of terrier work. I wasn't a fan of Plummer but he made many statements which were true. I hate the antis but one thing you won't get them doing, that is they won't be be turning on their own kind! I will refrain from posting further comments regarding a question I asked and an opinion I gave. I don't want to be part of a forum when one cannot without being somewhat derided on a earlier question and opinion, devote time and energy to such a cause. The antis and Johnny Bluck must be looking upon us with added bemusement. Good luck to all the genuine nice guys on this site and don't let a minority get you down. At the end of the day we are all equal, despite what some people imagine to be......

[fat man 4,741]

 

Smashed isnt a word i would use,as for stories of the little yappers saving the day as the game dog skulks away with his tail between his legs wonderfull lovely story, read that type of thing loads of times but in reality very rarely works out that way,but back to authors i like dave harcombe as an author like his style and his views on what a working terrier should be capable of.I dont know if you are after causing controversy or if you are just bored but your style of writeing and the language you use gives me the impression you are not realy that great a fan of working terriers, unless there the type your selling, sounds like youve collected all the books though.

First and formost, I don't need to get into a slanging match by someone who hasn't much knowledge regarding terriers and working them underground. I can assure everyone on these forums that I have done and seen the the job first hand for more years than I can remember. For you to think that baying dogs have no place in the way that terriers work underground; you surely haven't experienced proper terrier work in the way that it should be conducted. It is totally common sense that a good baying dog will see and account for more quarry than an hard dog that is always off sick. Like I have said before, terriers do get bit, that is part and parcel of the job in question. I haven't been on these forums long but I find it somewhat annoying, frustrating and when combined with certain superficial comments, somewhat boring. I haven't got a problem with peoples opinions or debates, but let's start looking at the truth. Then you mentioned boredom. My simple answer to your question would be, I never find the time to be bored because I always occupy my mind with my many other interests. To many people, a lifetime simple isn't enough! Also someone stated that i'd been writing in Old English. 'The word varmint can hardly be described as being Old English."Just another word! See what remarks I get again? Also I haven't collected all the books, especially on the subject of terriers. I would sooner read the Antiquarian and out- of date titles on various other subjects. e.g. Fox hunting, Falconry, bird books and all types of natural history titles. It has escaped my memory, but someone has asked I think about wanting various catalogues. Let me me know if you still want any, then I would send you some. Good luck. Lutra Lutra.

 

Peoples opinions on HARD vary a lot,i have seen and heard lads say there terrier was hard just because it got a few scratches.I agree that a good baying dog will probably account for more quarry than an out and out head on type of terrier but your good baying terrier wont hold game that dont want to be held.

[Zilverhaze 1,627]

fat man whuld you ever consider using a jadg terrier ?

[Lutra Lutra 611]

 

 

Smashed isnt a word i would use,as for stories of the little yappers saving the day as the game dog skulks away with his tail between his legs wonderfull lovely story, read that type of thing loads of times but in reality very rarely works out that way,but back to authors i like dave harcombe as an author like his style and his views on what a working terrier should be capable of.I dont know if you are after causing controversy or if you are just bored but your style of writeing and the language you use gives me the impression you are not realy that great a fan of working terriers, unless there the type your selling, sounds like youve collected all the books though.

First and formost, I don't need to get into a slanging match by someone who hasn't much knowledge regarding terriers and working them underground. I can assure everyone on these forums that I have done and seen the the job first hand for more years than I can remember. For you to think that baying dogs have no place in the way that terriers work underground; you surely haven't experienced proper terrier work in the way that it should be conducted. It is totally common sense that a good baying dog will see and account for more quarry than an hard dog that is always off sick. Like I have said before, terriers do get bit, that is part and parcel of the job in question. I haven't been on these forums long but I find it somewhat annoying, frustrating and when combined with certain superficial comments, somewhat boring. I haven't got a problem with peoples opinions or debates, but let's start looking at the truth. Then you mentioned boredom. My simple answer to your question would be, I never find the time to be bored because I always occupy my mind with my many other interests. To many people, a lifetime simple isn't enough! Also someone stated that i'd been writing in Old English. 'The word varmint can hardly be described as being Old English."Just another word! See what remarks I get again? Also I haven't collected all the books, especially on the subject of terriers. I would sooner read the Antiquarian and out- of date titles on various other subjects. e.g. Fox hunting, Falconry, bird books and all types of natural history titles. It has escaped my memory, but someone has asked I think about wanting various catalogues. Let me me know if you still want any, then I would send you some. Good luck. Lutra Lutra.

 

Peoples opinions on HARD vary a lot,i have seen and heard lads say there terrier was hard just because it got a few scratches.I agree that a good baying dog will probably account for more quarry than an out and out head on type of terrier but your good baying terrier wont hold game that dont want to be hel

Well I must be on some loopy stuff because I have seen it on so many ocassions regarding a good clever baying dog. It does not matter, if a certain type quarry wants to get by a dog, whether it be hard or not it will do so. Also ask yourself who was the best Boxer of all time? He won all his of fights by being an intelligent fighter and a master at his own art. He won his opponents by ducking and diving. I rest my case!

[Waz 4,252]

Lutra, it was me that mentioned the book catalogues, thanks for the offer. Im not after any. Might have to get a BB book though, any recommendations? The carp fisher one might have to be up on the list.

 

& ordered the Sparrow book

[Lutra Lutra 611]

There absolutely no point posting in this terrier section now, getting scrutinized for everything you write by people who think they are experts hidden by usernames so no one knows who you are! Some people use better grammar because there better educated and not a thick c**t! Does this mean they can't be any good at digging?From the short time I've been on here you can tell there is only a few lads that go around terrier work in a professional manner! There are a lot of lads of here who think only hard terriers with lots of scars work quarry well, and it's the same lads that think posting scared up dogs on a public forum doesn't do any harm to terrier work! In fact probably won't affect them if terrier work is banned as they probs just go where they want! But for gamekeepers who actually fort to keep terrier work as a tool of there job,( gamekeepers exempt) its all these knackers that have to tell the world about there 1 dig a year with there hard smashed up dogs that are slowly ruining terrier work!

My reply to 5 foot downs comments. There is actually someone on this forum who has agreed in what I have said and has the intelligence and opinion on the working aspects of terriers.The truth of the matter is, that hard dogs and their owners give the terrier-game bad press. So simple and a fact which would be shared by anybody who has been involved with good dogs. I am not for one moment pulling hard dogs down, I am not. They have their place and uses. However, like I have mentioned before I don't think it is a good idea to parade dogs with open wounds at shows to all and sundry to see....5 foot downs comments being so accurate and for once an intelligent comment. There should be more people like him on these forums. Also I have been at the mercy of certain attacks about styles of writing and communicating on this forum. How do people expect one to write, when that is only what one knows? I could if I so wish post photos all day long, but I don't have to comply or certainly prove a point. I have been constantly attacked by Foxdropper for only a reason known to himself. I haven't tried in his parlance to educate anyone; that isn't my style. If I was of a kind, I could write about all types of experiences with dogs and all the so-called celebrities I have known and met. But I don't have to blow on my own trumpet! Also to all the Irish guys who might put into question my ability with dogs. I have met some of the giants, if I can use that terminology from all parts of Ireland. In fact they might even be some on this forum listening to these comments now. All the big boys in the game and worthy of respect I will know. I have also sent some good terriers over in many parts of Ireland which have remained in their kennels until their latter days. Further proving not just my point but also other sensible comments by other terrier lads that baying dogs are of more use. That is a fact! I will of course await for certain negative reactions from certain corners. Also again to Foxdropper.' DON'T TRY AND TELL ME ABOUT THE WORD(TRUTH)'.That is cerainly one subject I will beat be you on. Hands down! Once again thanks to all the guys who haven't been a critic of myself. It is good to know that there are still some good people in this complicated life...... D.R.M.

P.S.Once again my many thanks to (5 foot down) for is truthful, intelligent comments. 'We would'nt be in such a dire situation if many more people thought like him.

[downsview 448]

All this arguing about Bayer's or gamer type terriers is boring each to his own,if you are referring to Ali when you talk of boxing he won a lot of his fights by knock out.

[Lutra Lutra 611]

Lutra, it was me that mentioned the book catalogues, thanks for the offer. Im not after any. Might have to get a BB book though, any recommendations? The carp fisher one might have to be up on the list.

 

& ordered the Sparrow book

Hello Columbo, If you want any catalogues let me know and I will post them to you. That wouldn't be a problem.To your question about the BB books. The man wrote many good titles and the list is quite lengthy.I will post some photos when time permits.His books can be expensive if you want his 1st editions. However, one could buy later copies or reprints for example. Here are just some of his works: Down the Bright Stream, Tides Ending, Dark Estuary, The Forest of Bowland Light Railway,Recollections of a Longshore Gunner, Autumn Road to the Isles,The Little Grey Men, Mr Bumstead ,which I think is very rare to obtain. There are many others Columbo,but if I was you I would get the book Brendon Chase.It is a book I think once picked up, will not be put down. The Little Grey Men influenced the once famous flawed genius Syd Barrett; the founder of the famous rock band Pink Floyd. Please let me know if you do buy it, and I would like to hear of your opinion. Regards Lutra Lutra.

[Lutra Lutra 611]

All this arguing about Bayer's or gamer type terriers is boring each to his own,if you are referring to Ali when you talk of boxing he won a lot of his fights by knock o

 

Ali did win by knockouts, but my point was, he succeeded in doing so by mastering the art of being an intelligent and clever Boxer. I am fed up also by coming onto a forum and being totally cross-examined just based on ones own opinion. I also noticed that when other people responded with a sensible comment nothing was said. Funny that is for sure!

 

 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

The very reason you are getting up tight about is freedom of speach of which i am entitled to as well.The views of others are only that .Try not to stress mate ,same to WCM .Chill its a bank holiday .Oh and give me a rougher dog anyday ,gives me a headache listening to a poodle keep on .Truth ......You have pulled me up as a lier ,back up or shut up .

[Bosun11 537]

Right, whilst this thred is running strong, can i urge you all to go on to Cockers pinned thred 'This is the...' and vote on the C.A. link.

This maybe the only chance we have of repealing the ban, you can make the difference.

EVERY vote counts. It's dead easy too!

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Where is it Bosun

[morton 5,368]

 

Smashed isnt a word i would use,as for stories of the little yappers saving the day as the game dog skulks away with his tail between his legs wonderfull lovely story, read that type of thing loads of times but in reality very rarely works out that way,but back to authors i like dave harcombe as an author like his style and his views on what a working terrier should be capable of.I dont know if you are after causing controversy or if you are just bored but your style of writeing and the language you use gives me the impression you are not realy that great a fan of working terriers, unless there the type your selling, sounds like youve collected all the books though.

First and formost, I don't need to get into a slanging match by someone who hasn't much knowledge regarding terriers and working them underground. I can assure everyone on these forums that I have done and seen the the job first hand for more years than I can remember. For you to think that baying dogs have no place in the way that terriers work underground; you surely haven't experienced proper terrier work in the way that it should be conducted. It is totally common sense that a good baying dog will see and account for more quarry than an hard dog that is always off sick. Like I have said before, terriers do get bit, that is part and parcel of the job in question. I haven't been on these forums long but I find it somewhat annoying, frustrating and when combined with certain superficial comments, somewhat boring. I haven't got a problem with peoples opinions or debates, but let's start looking at the truth. Then you mentioned boredom. My simple answer to your question would be, I never find the time to be bored because I always occupy my mind with my many other interests. To many people, a lifetime simple isn't enough! Also someone stated that i'd been writing in Old English. 'The word varmint can hardly be described as being Old English."Just another word! See what remarks I get again? Also I haven't collected all the books, especially on the subject of terriers. I would sooner read the Antiquarian and out- of date titles on various other subjects. e.g. Fox hunting, Falconry, bird books and all types of natural history titles. It has escaped my memory, but someone has asked I think about wanting various catalogues. Let me me know if you still want any, then I would send you some. Good luck. Lutra Lutra.

 

Id rather own a baying bolter and appreciate,as many do,their quality at work.The thing is mucker your grasp and understanding of English and literature,plus your writing style and correct grammar will put you at odds with what some see as the ''terrierman''.The average'' terrierman'' would starve to death if you moved his soup dish to the opposite side of the table.You only have to look at some of the comments on here,some would burn you at a stake for having the ability to read,never mind appreciating the odd book and looking for healthy debate and discussion.Keep it up mucker.

[Lutra Lutra 611]

The very reason you are getting up tight about is freedom of speach of which i am entitled to as well.The views of others are only that .Try not to stress mate ,same to WCM .Chill its a bank holiday .Oh and give me a rougher dog anyday ,gives me a headache listening to a poodle keep on .Truth ......You have pulled me up as a lier ,back up or shut

That's one thing I can certainly do, is back myself up.When have I actually called you a Liar? And why should I shut up when as you say ,it is FREEDOM OF SPEECH?

I was taught one admirable quality, when in the wrong, just admit. If I have slated you like you have myself, then I am man enough to apologise to you. I cannot see what I have done wrong only but having a diiffering opinion.....Why not settle our differences of opinions by accepting that we have got different views on terriers?You have consistently said that I am Johhny Bluck. You also stated that in your words I am too sickly nice; but when painted into a corner and I come out fighting then the situation changes. I totally agree with you about the Freedom of speech. That isn't a problem. And in my final words to clarify my position, it has never been from the start about myself posting a topic of conversation in order to wind people up. I do make no apologies for asking a question and an opinion. Good hunting,digging, keepering and whatever peoples interests are.