About Books And The New Authors Nowadays.

[Lutra Lutra 611]

Right, whilst this thred is running strong, can i urge you all to go on to Cockers pinned thred 'This is the...' and vote on the C.A. link.

This maybe the only chance we have of repealing the ban, you can make the difference.

EVERY vote counts. It's dead easy too!

Thank you for the information. Lutra.

[morton 5,368]

 

 

Smashed isnt a word i would use,as for stories of the little yappers saving the day as the game dog skulks away with his tail between his legs wonderfull lovely story, read that type of thing loads of times but in reality very rarely works out that way,but back to authors i like dave harcombe as an author like his style and his views on what a working terrier should be capable of.I dont know if you are after causing controversy or if you are just bored but your style of writeing and the language you use gives me the impression you are not realy that great a fan of working terriers, unless there the type your selling, sounds like youve collected all the books though.

First and formost, I don't need to get into a slanging match by someone who hasn't much knowledge regarding terriers and working them underground. I can assure everyone on these forums that I have done and seen the the job first hand for more years than I can remember. For you to think that baying dogs have no place in the way that terriers work underground; you surely haven't experienced proper terrier work in the way that it should be conducted. It is totally common sense that a good baying dog will see and account for more quarry than an hard dog that is always off sick. Like I have said before, terriers do get bit, that is part and parcel of the job in question. I haven't been on these forums long but I find it somewhat annoying, frustrating and when combined with certain superficial comments, somewhat boring. I haven't got a problem with peoples opinions or debates, but let's start looking at the truth. Then you mentioned boredom. My simple answer to your question would be, I never find the time to be bored because I always occupy my mind with my many other interests. To many people, a lifetime simple isn't enough! Also someone stated that i'd been writing in Old English. 'The word varmint can hardly be described as being Old English."Just another word! See what remarks I get again? Also I haven't collected all the books, especially on the subject of terriers. I would sooner read the Antiquarian and out- of date titles on various other subjects. e.g. Fox hunting, Falconry, bird books and all types of natural history titles. It has escaped my memory, but someone has asked I think about wanting various catalogues. Let me me know if you still want any, then I would send you some. Good luck. Lutra Lutra.

 

Peoples opinions on HARD vary a lot,i have seen and heard lads say there terrier was hard just because it got a few scratches.I agree that a good baying dog will probably account for more quarry than an out and out head on type of terrier but your good baying terrier wont hold game that dont want to be held.

 

A good bayer can hold longer than a dog that awaits the timely response of a shovel,at times,a good bayer can be entered where it cannot be dug to and still get the job done that a terrier with a different work ethic cannot.It would be handy to have both types of terrier in the kennel as both will earn their snap,yet the bayer often as the ability to eat it more comfortably .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Its a summer sport mate ,winding up the highly strung .Like old Wirrel ,hes always good for a bite or two .You have yet to spend time here unless your on as another username .All is not as would first seem is my only comment regarding a few but that can wait .We will agree to disagree that rough type workers are indeed better and yappers give me a headache .

Basically us experts have run out of topics so next best thing is to belittle a newbie ,any newbie .

[Francie 6,368]

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[morton 5,368]

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Good post.

[Lutra Lutra 611]

 

 

Smashed isnt a word i would use,as for stories of the little yappers saving the day as the game dog skulks away with his tail between his legs wonderfull lovely story, read that type of thing loads of times but in reality very rarely works out that way,but back to authors i like dave harcombe as an author like his style and his views on what a working terrier should be capable of.I dont know if you are after causing controversy or if you are just bored but your style of writeing and the language you use gives me the impression you are not realy that great a fan of working terriers, unless there the type your selling, sounds like youve collected all the books though.

First and formost, I don't need to get into a slanging match by someone who hasn't much knowledge regarding terriers and working them underground. I can assure everyone on these forums that I have done and seen the the job first hand for more years than I can remember. For you to think that baying dogs have no place in the way that terriers work underground; you surely haven't experienced proper terrier work in the way that it should be conducted. It is totally common sense that a good baying dog will see and account for more quarry than an hard dog that is always off sick. Like I have said before, terriers do get bit, that is part and parcel of the job in question. I haven't been on these forums long but I find it somewhat annoying, frustrating and when combined with certain superficial comments, somewhat boring. I haven't got a problem with peoples opinions or debates, but let's start looking at the truth. Then you mentioned boredom. My simple answer to your question would be, I never find the time to be bored because I always occupy my mind with my many other interests. To many people, a lifetime simple isn't enough! Also someone stated that i'd been writing in Old English. 'The word varmint can hardly be described as being Old English."Just another word! See what remarks I get again? Also I haven't collected all the books, especially on the subject of terriers. I would sooner read the Antiquarian and out- of date titles on various other subjects. e.g. Fox hunting, Falconry, bird books and all types of natural history titles. It has escaped my memory, but someone has asked I think about wanting various catalogues. Let me me know if you still want any, then I would send you some. Good luck. Lutra Lutra.

 

Id rather own a baying bolter and appreciate,as many do,their quality at work.The thing is mucker your grasp and understanding of English and literature,plus your writing style and correct grammar will put you at odds with what some see as the ''terrierman''.The average'' terrierman'' would starve to death if you moved his soup dish to the opposite side of the table.You only have to look at some of the comments on here,some would burn you at a stake for having the ability to read,never mind appreciating the odd book and looking for healthy debate and discussion.Keep it up mucker.

Hello Morton, I must admit I was impressed with your comments regarding certain writing styles and Grammer. You have decided to take an intelligent look at how people differ in their approach to certain subjects. Also Wirralman has correctly remarked about new people to this site are often scrutinized,cross-examined and sometimes tore to pieces by certain people who think they know better. Also 5 foot down also summed up the situation in fine detail. I don't expect top-marks from anyone, but I do expect to be treated fairly and with respect. Why shouldn't that be the case if people haven't given anyone a reason to think otherwise? Also it was said by total contrast, that the Lurcher forum is so much more of a pleasing place to talk about ones subject. Best regards Lutra Lutra.

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

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Good post.

thanks pal lol

[dytkos 17,783]

 

The very reason you are getting up tight about is freedom of speach of which i am entitled to as well.The views of others are only that .Try not to stress mate ,same to WCM .Chill its a bank holiday .Oh and give me a rougher dog anyday ,gives me a headache listening to a poodle keep on .Truth ......You have pulled me up as a lier ,back up or shut

 

That's one thing I can certainly do, is back myself up.When have I actually called you a Liar? And why should I shut up when as you say ,it is FREEDOM OF SPEECH?

I was taught one admirable quality, when in the wrong, just admit. If I have slated you like you have myself, then I am man enough to apologise to you. I cannot see what I have done wrong only but having a diiffering opinion.....Why not settle our differences of opinions by accepting that we have got different views on terriers?You have consistently said that I am Johhny Bluck. You also stated that in your words I am too sickly nice; but when painted into a corner and I come out fighting then the situation changes. I totally agree with you about the Freedom of speech. That isn't a problem. And in my final words to clarify my position, it has never been from the start about myself posting a topic of conversation in order to wind people up. I do make no apologies for asking a question and an opinion. Good hunting,digging, keepering and whatever peoples interests are.

Intoxicated by the exhuberence of his own verbosity, as my old man used to say.

 

Cheers, D.

[morton 5,368]

 

 

 

Smashed isnt a word i would use,as for stories of the little yappers saving the day as the game dog skulks away with his tail between his legs wonderfull lovely story, read that type of thing loads of times but in reality very rarely works out that way,but back to authors i like dave harcombe as an author like his style and his views on what a working terrier should be capable of.I dont know if you are after causing controversy or if you are just bored but your style of writeing and the language you use gives me the impression you are not realy that great a fan of working terriers, unless there the type your selling, sounds like youve collected all the books though.

First and formost, I don't need to get into a slanging match by someone who hasn't much knowledge regarding terriers and working them underground. I can assure everyone on these forums that I have done and seen the the job first hand for more years than I can remember. For you to think that baying dogs have no place in the way that terriers work underground; you surely haven't experienced proper terrier work in the way that it should be conducted. It is totally common sense that a good baying dog will see and account for more quarry than an hard dog that is always off sick. Like I have said before, terriers do get bit, that is part and parcel of the job in question. I haven't been on these forums long but I find it somewhat annoying, frustrating and when combined with certain superficial comments, somewhat boring. I haven't got a problem with peoples opinions or debates, but let's start looking at the truth. Then you mentioned boredom. My simple answer to your question would be, I never find the time to be bored because I always occupy my mind with my many other interests. To many people, a lifetime simple isn't enough! Also someone stated that i'd been writing in Old English. 'The word varmint can hardly be described as being Old English."Just another word! See what remarks I get again? Also I haven't collected all the books, especially on the subject of terriers. I would sooner read the Antiquarian and out- of date titles on various other subjects. e.g. Fox hunting, Falconry, bird books and all types of natural history titles. It has escaped my memory, but someone has asked I think about wanting various catalogues. Let me me know if you still want any, then I would send you some. Good luck. Lutra Lutra.

 

Id rather own a baying bolter and appreciate,as many do,their quality at work.The thing is mucker your grasp and understanding of English and literature,plus your writing style and correct grammar will put you at odds with what some see as the ''terrierman''.The average'' terrierman'' would starve to death if you moved his soup dish to the opposite side of the table.You only have to look at some of the comments on here,some would burn you at a stake for having the ability to read,never mind appreciating the odd book and looking for healthy debate and discussion.Keep it up mucker.

Hello Morton, I must admit I was impressed with your comments regarding certain writing styles and Grammer. You have decided to take an intelligent look at how people differ in their approach to certain subjects. Also Wirralman has correctly remarked about new people to this site are often scrutinized,cross-examined and sometimes tore to pieces by certain people who think they know better. Also 5 foot down also summed up the situation in fine detail. I don't expect top-marks from anyone, but I do expect to be treated fairly and with respect. Why shouldn't that be the case if people haven't given anyone a reason to think otherwise? Also it was said by total contrast, that the Lurcher forum is so much more of a pleasing place to talk about ones subject. Best regards Lutra Lutra.

 

Its not often im called intelligent,can i have a gold star?.Im not sure about the lurcher forum,geez there are some dumb feckers on there.Im all for a little reasoned debate and robust discussion,as long as its done with a semblance of balance and honesty.

[morton 5,368]

 

 

The very reason you are getting up tight about is freedom of speach of which i am entitled to as well.The views of others are only that .Try not to stress mate ,same to WCM .Chill its a bank holiday .Oh and give me a rougher dog anyday ,gives me a headache listening to a poodle keep on .Truth ......You have pulled me up as a lier ,back up or shut

That's one thing I can certainly do, is back myself up.When have I actually called you a Liar? And why should I shut up when as you say ,it is FREEDOM OF SPEECH?

I was taught one admirable quality, when in the wrong, just admit. If I have slated you like you have myself, then I am man enough to apologise to you. I cannot see what I have done wrong only but having a diiffering opinion.....Why not settle our differences of opinions by accepting that we have got different views on terriers?You have consistently said that I am Johhny Bluck. You also stated that in your words I am too sickly nice; but when painted into a corner and I come out fighting then the situation changes. I totally agree with you about the Freedom of speech. That isn't a problem. And in my final words to clarify my position, it has never been from the start about myself posting a topic of conversation in order to wind people up. I do make no apologies for asking a question and an opinion. Good hunting,digging, keepering and whatever peoples interests are.

Intoxicated by the exhuberence of his own verbosity, as my old man used to say.

 

Cheers, D.

 

Does verbosity come in pints or 70cl,s.

[Lutra Lutra 611]

Its a summer sport mate ,winding up the highly strung .Like old Wirrel ,hes always good for a bite or two .You have yet to spend time here unless your on as another username .All is not as would first seem is my only comment regarding a few but that can wait .We will agree to disagree that rough type workers are indeed better and yappers give me a headache .

Basically us experts have run out of topics so next best thing is to belittle a newbie ,any newbie .

Foxdropper, in all due respect don't you think that if certain new people to the site are belittled, they may have future reservations about coming on such a site? Once again just my humble opinion. No sarcasm intended. I don't think it is a good idea to have to tiptoe around certain forums when all people want is a little guidance and knowledge sometimes. What do you think?

[Lutra Lutra 611]

 

 

The very reason you are getting up tight about is freedom of speach of which i am entitled to as well.The views of others are only that .Try not to stress mate ,same to WCM .Chill its a bank holiday .Oh and give me a rougher dog anyday ,gives me a headache listening to a poodle keep on .Truth ......You have pulled me up as a lier ,back up or shut

That's one thing I can certainly do, is back myself up.When have I actually called you a Liar? And why should I shut up when as you say ,it is FREEDOM OF SPEECH?

I was taught one admirable quality, when in the wrong, just admit. If I have slated you like you have myself, then I am man enough to apologise to you. I cannot see what I have done wrong only but having a diiffering opinion.....Why not settle our differences of opinions by accepting that we have got different views on terriers?You have consistently said that I am Johhny Bluck. You also stated that in your words I am too sickly nice; but when painted into a corner and I come out fighting then the situation changes. I totally agree with you about the Freedom of speech. That isn't a problem. And in my final words to clarify my position, it has never been from the start about myself posting a topic of conversation in order to wind people up. I do make no apologies for asking a question and an opinion. Good hunting,digging, keepering and whatever peoples interests are.

Intoxicated by the exhuberence of his own verbosity, as my old man used to say.

 

Cheers, D.

Very Good !

[liamdelaney 2,586]

Lutra Lutra I am enjoying your posts,the only bit I do not agree with is when you said if game wants to move it will.I have seen plenty of good dogs that will let nothing pass regardless.Many years ago(pre ban)we dug the same badger quiet often so he knew what to expect.It was a place we brought people who thought they had good dogs,he ruined many a dog and dog man reputation.But some dogs kept him in check and were not pushed around.Personally I would not rate a dog who had this bad fault regardless how tough his apponent was.

[Bosun11 537]

Where is it Bosun

It's pinned in the lurcher section FD but it's a vote for us all, it's about repealing the ban.

 

Hit the 'view new content' bar top right. It's entitled 'Here is the best chance...'

 

Edited May 24, 2015 by Bosun11

[Astanley 11,563]

FFS , how long has Chris Eubank been into terriers ?j