Tozer 385 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I have been pessimistic, but I think cocker is going a good thing, I am going to write an email to my local MP, I hope this come out. 2 Quote Link to post
jonah. 775 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Now angling is being subjected to the same unfair legislation as certain forms of hunting the more this happens the closer the day comes to total ban on all recreational sports that groups decide are not acceptable its coming close to a totalitarian state. Exactly what my old man said when the ban was 1st proposed, I disagreed. I was young and thought I knew better, fool that I was back then. 1 Quote Link to post
cocker 2,655 Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 ban or no ban ill still be out every year till i can't walk no more, and breed the odd litter, its no big deal to me, but it be good for future young lads if there was no ban, and this ban is only thin end of the wedge, in years to come they'll want to ban coarse fishing pheasant shooting grouse shooting, and loads more, for those who arnt bothered about this fair enough, just let the antis have there own way 5 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) You cannot ban a way of life. The powers that be or the laws and restrictions placed on peoples ,ways of life, traditions and customs may change. Sometimes for the better with the benefit of hindsight, but when draconian laws are passed ,without peoples rights to choose then it is a slippery slope. Trying to impose the writ of the few in all walks of life leads to abuses look at different Government policies that have been introduced without full and proper considerations of the consequences and how they will affect different communities groups and regions. The Hunting ban may appear to have an effect on only a small number of people particularly those who hunt , but it has resulted in families loosing their jobs their homes their way of life it has resulted in people receiving criminal records for hunting the same people have never broken any other law in their lives.People whos ways of life and pass times have been handed down for generations are now illegal for them to carry out. As has been said people will hunt Ban or no Ban if its in your blood its there and its not going away, how long will it be before the fines , car crushing, and driving bans become prison sentences it is not far away. We know that some hunting activities have led to custodial sentences some may agree these were blatant acts of cruelty and even depravity but the vast vast majority of hunters and those participating are ordinary people whose love of dogs and wild animals would not allow intentional cruelty.. Edited May 17, 2015 by desertbred 2 Quote Link to post
cocker 2,655 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 latest from today The reasons why England and Wales voted so convincingly for a Conservative Government on Thursday will be debated forever, but one of the most obvious is the complete rejection of both Labour and Liberal Democrats in any constituency that has a hint of the countryside about it. This is graphically illustrated by the post-election constituency map. Actually, suggesting that the voters rejected those parties is probably the wrong way round. The truth is that those parties have rejected rural voters. In 2015 Labour’s policy offer to the countryside was little more than a series of threats about everything from gun ownership to badger culling and extraordinarily the Liberal Democrats, despite having many sensible MPs in rural areas, also managed to exude indifference towards the countryside at a national level. As a Conservative MP I should probably stop now and leave both parties to stew in the mire they have created, but there is a bigger issue here about countryside ‘representation’. What these results tell us politicians (of all parties) is that the notion that we have to endorse the animal rights agenda to be successful has now been thoroughly tested, and completely failed. When I first stood against the sitting Labour MP in my constituency of Carmarthen West and Pembrokeshire South in 2010 no less a figure than Brian May, guitar hero and animal rights champion, made the long trek here to campaign against me. The League Against Cruel Sports (in breach of Charity Commission guidance) spent the entire election campaign pursuing me around my patch trying to ‘expose’ my links to the Countryside Alliance, an organisation I had fairly publicly led for the preceding 7 years. I won, as did all the other pro-hunting, pro-shooting, pro-farming, pro-common sense candidates animal rights groups campaigned against, and our results compared favourably with our colleagues in urban and rural constituencies. Brian May came again this time and yet my majority increased well in line with the national picture, as did all my other colleagues who were targeted by badger marchers, hunt sabs and assorted animal rights activists. None of this should come as a surprise. The shining example of common sense in the Labour party Kate Hoey, who I was proud to serve as Chief Executive when she was Chairman of the Countryside Alliance, has been abused by animal rights extremists, stalked by eccentrics in fox outfits and even had animal rights candidates standing against her in her inner-London constituency. At this election she increased her majority, just as she did in 2010. Is there another Labour MP in the country who can say that? The message is clear to all of us in politics. Pandering to a tiny minority of noisy extremists won’t get us elected, it will get us rejected. Part of the current malaise in politics is voter exasperation in the blandness of us all. MPs who stand proudly in defence of important principles are like fresh air to our cynical punters, and generate support and respect, even from those they may offend in the process. Simon Hart is the MP for Carmarthen West and Pembrokeshire South. When he won the seat from Labour in 2010 he became the first Conservative MP to represent any part of Carmarthenshire since 1851. In the 2015 election he increased his majority to over 6,000. Tags: animal rights, Conservatives, Countryside, David Cameron, election 2015, Kate Hoey, Labour, Liberal Democrats, rural vote Quote Link to post
cocker 2,655 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 the gap is closing keep voting lads david-cameron-wants-overturn-hunting-5287874 Quote Link to post
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