Anthony Joshua

[MIK 4,756]

 

As for Ty going to war or put in the trench as you put it I must of missed they fights ....Ty has had an easy route to get to the stage he is at knocking on the door to a world title fight with Klitchko but thats maybe to do with the way the heavyweight game is these days

Totally agree,i find all these Fury family groupies almost comical i was talking to a couple of travelling boys the other day some of the words they were using to describe these lads was absurd like a few people on here use.......im sure they think that because they have only been around boxing 5 minutes that everyone else has as well and we are all as naive as they are.......since when has a fighter been described as a " warrior " because he gets decked by journeymen but gets up again !!.......When a potential heavyweight champion of the world gets chinned by mediocre opposition and gets up to win that doesnt go in the plus column it shows he has serious vulnerabilities !

 

Neither of these Fury boys have fought anyone yet,Tyson Fury hasnt fought anyone worth a carrot thats even near his own size......he is a freakishly built,big goofy kid who is fun to watch due to his size and unorthodox ways......because the division is so poor theres a good chance he could nick a world title........thats great.......but these gypsy fans of his trying to make out like its the second coming of Muhammed Ali....stone the crows get a grip.

 

He did get the chance to fight Ustinov but pulled out

[brookie 1,193]

 

As for Ty going to war or put in the trench as you put it I must of missed they fights ....Ty has had an easy route to get to the stage he is at knocking on the door to a world title fight with Klitchko but thats maybe to do with the way the heavyweight game is these days

Totally agree,i find all these Fury family groupies almost comical i was talking to a couple of travelling boys the other day some of the words they were using to describe these lads was absurd like a few people on here use.......im sure they think that because they have only been around boxing 5 minutes that everyone else has as well and we are all as naive as they are.......since when has a fighter been described as a " warrior " because he gets decked by journeymen but gets up again !!.......When a potential heavyweight champion of the world gets chinned by mediocre opposition and gets up to win that doesnt go in the plus column it shows he has serious vulnerabilities !

 

Neither of these Fury boys have fought anyone yet,Tyson Fury hasnt fought anyone worth a carrot thats even near his own size......he is a freakishly built,big goofy kid who is fun to watch due to his size and unorthodox ways......because the division is so poor theres a good chance he could nick a world title........thats great.......but these gypsy fans of his trying to make out like its the second coming of Muhammed Ali....stone the crows get a grip.

 

aye gnash youve spat your dummy out again pal ,same old bull coming from you as it does when ever any one mentions joe calzhagi or mike tyson .il tell you pal on times your bitterness and jealousy comes steaming to the top and out it comes mate ..lets get a few things straight son ,first you state ,you was talking to some travelling boys the other day . and some of the words they used to describe him , hhhmmm .bullshit gnash you was talking to no one son ,you used this exact same line a couple of year ago when i was stating what would happen to david price when he got tagged ,and you was jumping up and down squealing about him be the next coming ,( he turned out the bum i said he was ) you call ty a freak and big goofy kid .yet hes mandatory for the heavyweight title ,so how would you describe yourself ? your always saying about your boxing exploits son maybe i can arrange for you to jump in and get close and do a few rds and you can deliver your insults man to man then not via a computer screen with your audience of kids cheering you on .as for being naive and gypsy groupies ,dont kid yourself on that one son .im not naive ,far from it and no fluckers groupie either , im not blinded by family ties either ,lets be straight ,you got no one in your beloved london town even good enough to lick either tys or hughies jockstrap and never have had ever ,when you do get a half decent one ,hes a foreigner none of your fighters are home grown , as for ty refusing ustinov ,again your talking out your harris son .to be honest you aint got a clue .weather its the years of roids thats made you bitter i dont know ..unlike you i dont find you comical son i think your deep down a very bitter man ,bitter through failure at the sport your so jealous of my cousins being so successful at . .as for em not fighting any one ,hughie won the world amateur heavyweight title at just 18 yrs old on foreign soil ,name me another british fighter ever in the history of boxing thats done the same ,get on your bike gnash and do a few rds on the pads with joshua .hes going to need it son when one of my family comes a knocking ,dont forget the offer if you want to deliver your insults personally ..

[brookie 1,193]

 

 

Top 10?...next time i'm having a fry up in Sam Sextons cafe i will ask him what hes up to in July...think he could be a good test at this point in their careers

sam sexton lol we can get him to fight tys old dad for a few quid tell him if hes still up for it .if he goes a bit green around the gills ,tell him we give him 2/1 odds lol

 

Alright Bookies....just thought Sexton would be a better test for young Hughie than the 14Xlosers he was fighting last year...Sam being a regular sparring partner to the current world heavyweight Champion...and at least a name British boxing fans know...thought you boys was talking top 10 British...obviously you mean Top 10 world rated contender!...look forward to it...like i said not got a bad word to say about Hughie...shame you feel the need to disrespect every boxer thats not out of Traveller stock

 

dont turn the tables son i dont desrespect any one i object to the constant crap posted on here daily about my cousins and the likes of certain self professed experts trying to shoot em down .you being one of em ,you might rate sam sexton and anthony joshua thats fine .crack on ,i dont rate either one of em .my honest opinion .sam sexton would fall over first few shots hughie threw at him , anthony joshua and his camp will keep fighting dustmen and taxi drivers ,hughie will fight a top ten world ranked heavy weight this year and hopefully he will fight wilder with inside 12 mths ,dont forget who told you first , i expect AJ will be fighting Danny Williams or Audley .bye boys

[MIK 4,756]

 

 

As for Ty going to war or put in the trench as you put it I must of missed they fights ....Ty has had an easy route to get to the stage he is at knocking on the door to a world title fight with Klitchko but thats maybe to do with the way the heavyweight game is these days

Totally agree,i find all these Fury family groupies almost comical i was talking to a couple of travelling boys the other day some of the words they were using to describe these lads was absurd like a few people on here use.......im sure they think that because they have only been around boxing 5 minutes that everyone else has as well and we are all as naive as they are.......since when has a fighter been described as a " warrior " because he gets decked by journeymen but gets up again !!.......When a potential heavyweight champion of the world gets chinned by mediocre opposition and gets up to win that doesnt go in the plus column it shows he has serious vulnerabilities !

 

Neither of these Fury boys have fought anyone yet,Tyson Fury hasnt fought anyone worth a carrot thats even near his own size......he is a freakishly built,big goofy kid who is fun to watch due to his size and unorthodox ways......because the division is so poor theres a good chance he could nick a world title........thats great.......but these gypsy fans of his trying to make out like its the second coming of Muhammed Ali....stone the crows get a grip.

 

aye gnash youve spat your dummy out again pal ,same old bull coming from you as it does when ever any one mentions joe calzhagi or mike tyson .il tell you pal on times your bitterness and jealousy comes steaming to the top and out it comes mate ..lets get a few things straight son ,first you state ,you was talking to some travelling boys the other day . and some of the words they used to describe him , hhhmmm .bullshit gnash you was talking to no one son ,you used this exact same line a couple of year ago when i was stating what would happen to david price when he got tagged ,and you was jumping up and down squealing about him be the next coming ,( he turned out the bum i said he was ) you call ty a freak and big goofy kid .yet hes mandatory for the heavyweight title ,so how would you describe yourself ? your always saying about your boxing exploits son maybe i can arrange for you to jump in and get close and do a few rds and you can deliver your insults man to man then not via a computer screen with your audience of kids cheering you on .as for being naive and gypsy groupies ,dont kid yourself on that one son .im not naive ,far from it and no fluckers groupie either , im not blinded by family ties either ,lets be straight ,you got no one in your beloved london town even good enough to lick either tys or hughies jockstrap and never have had ever ,when you do get a half decent one ,hes a foreigner none of your fighters are home grown , as for ty refusing ustinov ,again your talking out your harris son .to be honest you aint got a clue .weather its the years of roids thats made you bitter i dont know ..unlike you i dont find you comical son i think your deep down a very bitter man ,bitter through failure at the sport your so jealous of my cousins being so successful at . .as for em not fighting any one ,hughie won the world amateur heavyweight title at just 18 yrs old on foreign soil ,name me another british fighter ever in the history of boxing thats done the same ,get on your bike gnash and do a few rds on the pads with joshua .hes going to need it son when one of my family comes a knocking ,dont forget the offer if you want to deliver your insults personally ..

 

It was me not Gnash that said Ty pulled out of the Ustinov fight and thats a fact not an opinion ....Ive got a funny feeling that this is going to come back at you when the fury bubble bursts ....just a feeling .

[TUFFTY 1,476]

Blimey

Where do I start?

I will leave it for a bit as its getting warmed up now.

[AKA-BRINDLE 879]

 

 

 

Top 10?...next time i'm having a fry up in Sam Sextons cafe i will ask him what hes up to in July...think he could be a good test at this point in their careers

sam sexton lol we can get him to fight tys old dad for a few quid tell him if hes still up for it .if he goes a bit green around the gills ,tell him we give him 2/1 odds lol

 

Alright Bookies....just thought Sexton would be a better test for young Hughie than the 14Xlosers he was fighting last year...Sam being a regular sparring partner to the current world heavyweight Champion...and at least a name British boxing fans know...thought you boys was talking top 10 British...obviously you mean Top 10 world rated contender!...look forward to it...like i said not got a bad word to say about Hughie...shame you feel the need to disrespect every boxer thats not out of Traveller stock

 

dont turn the tables son i dont desrespect any one i object to the constant crap posted on here daily about my cousins and the likes of certain self professed experts trying to shoot em down .you being one of em ,you might rate sam sexton and anthony joshua thats fine .crack on ,i dont rate either one of em .my honest opinion .sam sexton would fall over first few shots hughie threw at him , anthony joshua and his camp will keep fighting dustmen and taxi drivers ,hughie will fight a top ten world ranked heavy weight this year and hopefully he will fight wilder with inside 12 mths ,dont forget who told you first , i expect AJ will be fighting Danny Williams or Audley .bye boys

 

Are Tyson and Hughie your cousins? dont think you've ever mentioned that before ...you dont half get yourself worked up and all excited...where have i insulted any boxer?...in fact lets have it right...search out the thread on here before the Chisora fight and read my words/predictions...but hey lets not let 'facts' get in the way of your indignant rage and chest thumping...watched Hughies last fight Rudnek?...and yeah i serious think Sexton would of been a harder test and put in a better shift...that fella wernt even near top 20 world rated so some jump for Hughie to fight Wilder in the next 12months...just my opinion...if you cant handle opinions...dont come on forums...but your not really a boxing fan are you Brookie...your just a cheerleader for your family...thats why you cant help being disrespectful to any boxer you aint related too...time will tell with Hughies career as i have already said

[CushtyJook 1,097]

 

 

 

As for Ty going to war or put in the trench as you put it I must of missed they fights ....Ty has had an easy route to get to the stage he is at knocking on the door to a world title fight with Klitchko but thats maybe to do with the way the heavyweight game is these days

 

Totally agree,i find all these Fury family groupies almost comical i was talking to a couple of travelling boys the other day some of the words they were using to describe these lads was absurd like a few people on here use.......im sure they think that because they have only been around boxing 5 minutes that everyone else has as well and we are all as naive as they are.......since when has a fighter been described as a " warrior " because he gets decked by journeymen but gets up again !!.......When a potential heavyweight champion of the world gets chinned by mediocre opposition and gets up to win that doesnt go in the plus column it shows he has serious vulnerabilities !

 

Neither of these Fury boys have fought anyone yet,Tyson Fury hasnt fought anyone worth a carrot thats even near his own size......he is a freakishly built,big goofy kid who is fun to watch due to his size and unorthodox ways......because the division is so poor theres a good chance he could nick a world title........thats great.......but these gypsy fans of his trying to make out like its the second coming of Muhammed Ali....stone the crows get a grip.

aye gnash youve spat your dummy out again pal ,same old bull coming from you as it does when ever any one mentions joe calzhagi or mike tyson .il tell you pal on times your bitterness and jealousy comes steaming to the top and out it comes mate ..lets get a few things straight son ,first you state ,you was talking to some travelling boys the other day . and some of the words they used to describe him , hhhmmm .bullshit gnash you was talking to no one son ,you used this exact same line a couple of year ago when i was stating what would happen to david price when he got tagged ,and you was jumping up and down squealing about him be the next coming ,( he turned out the bum i said he was ) you call ty a freak and big goofy kid .yet hes mandatory for the heavyweight title ,so how would you describe yourself ? your always saying about your boxing exploits son maybe i can arrange for you to jump in and get close and do a few rds and you can deliver your insults man to man then not via a computer screen with your audience of kids cheering you on .as for being naive and gypsy groupies ,dont kid yourself on that one son .im not naive ,far from it and no fluckers groupie either , im not blinded by family ties either ,lets be straight ,you got no one in your beloved london town even good enough to lick either tys or hughies jockstrap and never have had ever ,when you do get a half decent one ,hes a foreigner none of your fighters are home grown , as for ty refusing ustinov ,again your talking out your harris son .to be honest you aint got a clue .weather its the years of roids thats made you bitter i dont know ..unlike you i dont find you comical son i think your deep down a very bitter man ,bitter through failure at the sport your so jealous of my cousins being so successful at . .as for em not fighting any one ,hughie won the world amateur heavyweight title at just 18 yrs old on foreign soil ,name me another british fighter ever in the history of boxing thats done the same ,get on your bike gnash and do a few rds on the pads with joshua .hes going to need it son when one of my family comes a knocking ,dont forget the offer if you want to deliver your insults personally ..

It was me not Gnash that said Ty pulled out of the Ustinov fight and thats a fact not an opinion ....Ive got a funny feeling that this is going to come back at you when the fury bubble bursts ....just a feeling .

Ive mentioned before why Tyson pulled out of the Ustinov fight but no Collier ever seems to understand what family means to a Romany or travelling family, would you still fight if your uncle was seriously ill and your trainer and other family members in your team couldn't be in your corner ? Maybe if you loved fighting more than your family, not those boys there was no ducking etc it was as I've just said.

[keepdiggin 9,559]

turning out to be a good thread lol

[charliehunter100 22]

 

 

As for Ty going to war or put in the trench as you put it I must of missed they fights ....Ty has had an easy route to get to the stage he is at knocking on the door to a world title fight with Klitchko but thats maybe to do with the way the heavyweight game is these days

 

Totally agree,i find all these Fury family groupies almost comical i was talking to a couple of travelling boys the other day some of the words they were using to describe these lads was absurd like a few people on here use.......im sure they think that because they have only been around boxing 5 minutes that everyone else has as well and we are all as naive as they are.......since when has a fighter been described as a " warrior " because he gets decked by journeymen but gets up again !!.......When a potential heavyweight champion of the world gets chinned by mediocre opposition and gets up to win that doesnt go in the plus column it shows he has serious vulnerabilities !

 

Neither of these Fury boys have fought anyone yet,Tyson Fury hasnt fought anyone worth a carrot thats even near his own size......he is a freakishly built,big goofy kid who is fun to watch due to his size and unorthodox ways......because the division is so poor theres a good chance he could nick a world title........thats great.......but these gypsy fans of his trying to make out like its the second coming of Muhammed Ali....stone the crows get a grip.

aye gnash youve spat your dummy out again pal ,same old bull coming from you as it does when ever any one mentions joe calzhagi or mike tyson .il tell you pal on times your bitterness and jealousy comes steaming to the top and out it comes mate ..lets get a few things straight son ,first you state ,you was talking to some travelling boys the other day . and some of the words they used to describe him , hhhmmm .bullshit gnash you was talking to no one son ,you used this exact same line a couple of year ago when i was stating what would happen to david price when he got tagged ,and you was jumping up and down squealing about him be the next coming ,( he turned out the bum i said he was ) you call ty a freak and big goofy kid .yet hes mandatory for the heavyweight title ,so how would you describe yourself ? your always saying about your boxing exploits son maybe i can arrange for you to jump in and get close and do a few rds and you can deliver your insults man to man then not via a computer screen with your audience of kids cheering you on .as for being naive and gypsy groupies ,dont kid yourself on that one son .im not naive ,far from it and no fluckers groupie either , im not blinded by family ties either ,lets be straight ,you got no one in your beloved london town even good enough to lick either tys or hughies jockstrap and never have had ever ,when you do get a half decent one ,hes a foreigner none of your fighters are home grown , as for ty refusing ustinov ,again your talking out your harris son .to be honest you aint got a clue .weather its the years of roids thats made you bitter i dont know ..unlike you i dont find you comical son i think your deep down a very bitter man ,bitter through failure at the sport your so jealous of my cousins being so successful at . .as for em not fighting any one ,hughie won the world amateur heavyweight title at just 18 yrs old on foreign soil ,name me another british fighter ever in the history of boxing thats done the same ,get on your bike gnash and do a few rds on the pads with joshua .hes going to need it son when one of my family comes a knocking ,dont forget the offer if you want to deliver your insults personally ..

well said

[s.e.s.k.u 1,893]

iv watched a few tyson fury fights and most of aj's..it's hard to like tyson because he comes across as a big headed tw*t..can't sing either...but he's very good at blowing his own trumpet lol. I wouldn't pay to go watch him..

It seems to be a common attitude amongst travellers imo..(not all)

[South hams hunter 8,921]

 

 

 

Yep...100% agree about backing British Boxers...only thing that takes the shine off him as a British boxer for me...is that dirty big Africa Tattoo he has...just comes across as a slap in the face for a country that has given him everything...and whos flag he won Olympic honours under... but i can over look that for a British Fighter...just like i can over look tyson Furys mouth/singing ect ect...and you didnt drag Mike Tyson into the thread to compare his boxing skills

 

When you have middle names like " Oluwafemi Olasenji " or whatever it is.....i dont think a tattoo is giving you away as being Nigerian do you ......much as we Brits would all like to think pure British heritage can win for Britain those days are gone i want Josh to win a world title just as much as i wanted big Frank to......sport is just about the only place i dont see the colour of a mans skin and maybe thats shame on me.....but its also the beauty of sport i suppose.

 

Not sure where your going with the Tyson thing......i mentioned the fact he fought plenty of poor opponents at the start like all heavyweight prospects do.

hes not british though, same as amir khan aint. Theyre an african and an iranian. A dog born in a stable is not a horse! ]

[neems 2,406]

iv watched a few tyson fury fights and most of aj's..it's hard to like tyson because he comes across as a big headed tw*t..can't sing either...but he's very good at blowing his own trumpet lol. I wouldn't pay to go watch him..

It seems to be a common attitude amongst travellers imo..(not all)

 

 

do you not think a lot of people will pay to watch him get knocked out if he comes across as a c@nt?

 

clever tactic imo certainly generates more interest than being nice and humble.

[neems 2,406]

 

 

 

Yep...100% agree about backing British Boxers...only thing that takes the shine off him as a British boxer for me...is that dirty big Africa Tattoo he has...just comes across as a slap in the face for a country that has given him everything...and whos flag he won Olympic honours under... but i can over look that for a British Fighter...just like i can over look tyson Furys mouth/singing ect ect...and you didnt drag Mike Tyson into the thread to compare his boxing skills

 

When you have middle names like " Oluwafemi Olasenji " or whatever it is.....i dont think a tattoo is giving you away as being Nigerian do you ......much as we Brits would all like to think pure British heritage can win for Britain those days are gone i want Josh to win a world title just as much as i wanted big Frank to......sport is just about the only place i dont see the colour of a mans skin and maybe thats shame on me.....but its also the beauty of sport i suppose.

 

Not sure where your going with the Tyson thing......i mentioned the fact he fought plenty of poor opponents at the start like all heavyweight prospects do.

hes not british though, same as amir khan aint. Theyre an african and an iranian. A dog born in a stable is not a horse! ]

 

 

 

 

 

Yep...100% agree about backing British Boxers...only thing that takes the shine off him as a British boxer for me...is that dirty big Africa Tattoo he has...just comes across as a slap in the face for a country that has given him everything...and whos flag he won Olympic honours under... but i can over look that for a British Fighter...just like i can over look tyson Furys mouth/singing ect ect...and you didnt drag Mike Tyson into the thread to compare his boxing skills

 

When you have middle names like " Oluwafemi Olasenji " or whatever it is.....i dont think a tattoo is giving you away as being Nigerian do you ......much as we Brits would all like to think pure British heritage can win for Britain those days are gone i want Josh to win a world title just as much as i wanted big Frank to......sport is just about the only place i dont see the colour of a mans skin and maybe thats shame on me.....but its also the beauty of sport i suppose.

 

Not sure where your going with the Tyson thing......i mentioned the fact he fought plenty of poor opponents at the start like all heavyweight prospects do.

hes not british though, same as amir khan aint. Theyre an african and an iranian. A dog born in a stable is not a horse! ]

 

 

well Amir khan is a very confused fella because him and his brother have both worn the paki flag on their shorts

[gnasher16 30,032]

 

aye gnash youve spat your dummy out again pal ,same old bull coming from you as it does when ever any one mentions joe calzhagi or mike tyson .il tell you pal on times your bitterness and jealousy comes steaming to the top and out it comes mate ..lets get a few things straight son ,first you state ,you was talking to some travelling boys the other day . and some of the words they used to describe him , hhhmmm .bullshit gnash you was talking to no one son ,you used this exact same line a couple of year ago when i was stating what would happen to david price when he got tagged ,and you was jumping up and down squealing about him be the next coming ,( he turned out the bum i said he was ) you call ty a freak and big goofy kid .yet hes mandatory for the heavyweight title ,so how would you describe yourself ? your always saying about your boxing exploits son maybe i can arrange for you to jump in and get close and do a few rds and you can deliver your insults man to man then not via a computer screen with your audience of kids cheering you on .as for being naive and gypsy groupies ,dont kid yourself on that one son .im not naive ,far from it and no fluckers groupie either , im not blinded by family ties either ,lets be straight ,you got no one in your beloved london town even good enough to lick either tys or hughies jockstrap and never have had ever ,when you do get a half decent one ,hes a foreigner none of your fighters are home grown , as for ty refusing ustinov ,again your talking out your harris son .to be honest you aint got a clue .weather its the years of roids thats made you bitter i dont know ..unlike you i dont find you comical son i think your deep down a very bitter man ,bitter through failure at the sport your so jealous of my cousins being so successful at . .as for em not fighting any one ,hughie won the world amateur heavyweight title at just 18 yrs old on foreign soil ,name me another british fighter ever in the history of boxing thats done the same ,get on your bike gnash and do a few rds on the pads with joshua .hes going to need it son when one of my family comes a knocking ,dont forget the offer if you want to deliver your insults personally ..

 

Absolutely f****n hilarious !!!.....and you say you are not a groupie !!!......i must ask you.....has someone recently told you that calling people " son " is the in thing ?....why would you think id lie about talking to 2 gypsy men .....if you can find where ive ever said David Price was the "next coming " pull it up ?

 

Now i could get all emotional and exciteable like you and reel off a load of responses to your little tantrum but in all fairness,if i was as loved up as you are i wouldnt like to hear negative things said about him either....but then again,it would probably make more sense to simply not get into internet debates about him !!......Its ok i understand.... i have a soft spot for a kid close to me fighting for a world title at the end of the month but like ive said having been around fighters and the fight game more than 5 minutes i dont take criticsm of a fighter i know all personally like you do.

 

Why do you feel that anyone who doesnt think what you think is " bitter " and " spitting their dummy out " ......i had my time and have no regrets,probably wish i had focused myself more but things worked out in the end......tell me,are you going to ask everyone who gives Fury criticism if they want to jump in the ring with him ? if so you are certainly going to keep him busy !........what do you think this World Heavyweight title contender will say to you when you tell him you have a man off the internet in his 50,s that you want him to have a fight with ?.......my guess is he will tell you to f**k off and grow up you silly c**t ....so when he tells you that will he still be your hero ?

Edited May 12, 2015 by gnasher16

[gnasher16 30,032]

 

Are Tyson and Hughie your cousins? dont think you've ever mentioned that before ...you dont half get yourself worked up and all excited...where have i insulted any boxer?...in fact lets have it right...search out the thread on here before the Chisora fight and read my words/predictions...but hey lets not let 'facts' get in the way of your indignant rage and chest thumping...watched Hughies last fight Rudnek?...and yeah i serious think Sexton would of been a harder test and put in a better shift...that fella wernt even near top 20 world rated so some jump for Hughie to fight Wilder in the next 12months...just my opinion...if you cant handle opinions...dont come on forums...but your not really a boxing fan are you Brookie...your just a cheerleader for your family...thats why you cant help being disrespectful to any boxer you aint related too...time will tell with Hughies career as i have already said

 

 

 

What is your jab like Mr Brindle ?.....the way i see it your going to get dragged into facing Fury as well so i figure we could have a bit of a tag team effort you soften him up with the jab before i steam in with the straight right ?.......either that or i,ll jump on his back and you can tickle his feet !

 

To be perfectly honest i dont know what sort of shape Sam Sexton is in these days but the kid Hughie Fury hasnt fought anyone close to his calibre yet.......i was ringside for his first fight with Larry O just before he got banned .....he got stopped on cuts if i remember right.....seemed to fall out of contention suddenly Sexton what occured there mate any idea ? he can only be in his early 30,s is he still active ?