CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Gnasher it wouldn't be right for a traveller to support a black man over one of their own Oh thats how it works is it.......well thats fair enough why dont they just say that then ! Oh I think he's a good boxer, I've never said he wasn't, he can give it but can he take it the big question ?? Remember the hype around David price, remember am it Khan, AJ will be like them, similar to frank Bruno he'll get taken into deep waters and knocked out in his next 6 fights. Also what's infatuated mean?Can i ask how you know that ?......have you ever seen him hard spar ?........... why constantly compare to other fighters Joshua is as individual as anyone else you cant say because Price/Khan/Bruno fought a certain way so will Josh thats just silly !.........you are talking as though your opinions are knowledge but they are not they are guesswork. And also,Fury proved he has a brittle chin getting knocked over by journeymen do you class him as another Khan ? It's guesswork yes I never said it was no different I might be wrong yes, fury has a suspect chin yes but I don't think it is as bad as people make out, if you watch the fight with Cunningham watch closely he takes the same overhand right a few rounds later exact same shot and takes it absolute fine, but journey man I guess your talking about pajick or what ever had is called but I can't comment as I've only ever watched that fight ones ages ago and never bothered to watch it agian, Steve Cunningham fight on the over hand I've played loads off timesYeah but you're forgetting that Cunnigham wasn't even a big hitter at Cruiserweight, we've yet to see how both Joshua or Fury perform against someone their own heights yet also.No not a big hitter your right, but he took the same shot like it wasn't anything later on in the fight, I think he he was just caught of balance more than anything beacuse he wasnt hurt at all and got up more worried aboutulling his shorts back up time will tell with fury and time will tell with Joshua, but if the pair thought anytime soon I know who my ild bet my life of and it wouldn't be AJI think you are mad. Don't get offended. Just hear me out.Fury has got a suspect chin, and takes lots of shots on the chin that don't always hurt him. How on earth a guy with that reach gets tagged as much as he does against much shorter opponents is another debate. AJ avoids getting hit. AJ has ALOT more power. AJ is clearly in much better nick. Now if I had to bet my life on one of the fighters it would be AJ. Equally if I HAD to fight against one of them then I would choose to get in with fury. I aren't anti Tyson fury. I am a boxing fan. Particularly a fan of the heavyweights. I can't see any logical reason to favour fury out of the 2 men. you say AJ in in better Nick? True but when has boxing become a bodybuilding contest, AJ has a muscular body type fury hasn't simple as that, looks don't hurt people and I'm sure AJ has been using juice along with hgh at some point, his gut tells me he has been using hgh, don't get me wrong AJ obviously has good genetics for building muscle and wouldn't all be juice but I and loads of other people think he's done a bit of juice somewhere along the line. But if you look at traditional old time fighting men none of them have good athletic looking body's but could still have the engine to fight for hours without gassing out, I'm a lifelong supporter of furys and the honest truth is beacuse I think he is the most underrated heavyweight boxer who will prove that when he beats klitchko this autum, I strongly strongly believe this will happen and have lost count of the arguementd I have had with other men about this and i currently have made bets for allot of money with a few different people and I am 500 percent confident Tyson will do the business Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Gnasher it wouldn't be right for a traveller to support a black man over one of their own Oh thats how it works is it.......well thats fair enough why dont they just say that then ! Oh I think he's a good boxer, I've never said he wasn't, he can give it but can he take it the big question ?? Remember the hype around David price, remember am it Khan, AJ will be like them, similar to frank Bruno he'll get taken into deep waters and knocked out in his next 6 fights. Also what's infatuated mean?Can i ask how you know that ?......have you ever seen him hard spar ?........... why constantly compare to other fighters Joshua is as individual as anyone else you cant say because Price/Khan/Bruno fought a certain way so will Josh thats just silly !.........you are talking as though your opinions are knowledge but they are not they are guesswork. And also,Fury proved he has a brittle chin getting knocked over by journeymen do you class him as another Khan ? It's guesswork yes I never said it was no different I might be wrong yes, fury has a suspect chin yes but I don't think it is as bad as people make out, if you watch the fight with Cunningham watch closely he takes the same overhand right a few rounds later exact same shot and takes it absolute fine, but journey man I guess your talking about pajick or what ever had is called but I can't comment as I've only ever watched that fight ones ages ago and never bothered to watch it agian, Steve Cunningham fight on the over hand I've played loads off timesYeah but you're forgetting that Cunnigham wasn't even a big hitter at Cruiserweight, we've yet to see how both Joshua or Fury perform against someone their own heights yet also.No not a big hitter your right, but he took the same shot like it wasn't anything later on in the fight, I think he he was just caught of balance more than anything beacuse he wasnt hurt at all and got up more worried aboutulling his shorts back up time will tell with fury and time will tell with Joshua, but if the pair thought anytime soon I know who my ild bet my life of and it wouldn't be AJI think you are mad. Don't get offended. Just hear me out.Fury has got a suspect chin, and takes lots of shots on the chin that don't always hurt him. How on earth a guy with that reach gets tagged as much as he does against much shorter opponents is another debate. AJ avoids getting hit. AJ has ALOT more power. AJ is clearly in much better nick. Now if I had to bet my life on one of the fighters it would be AJ. Equally if I HAD to fight against one of them then I would choose to get in with fury. I aren't anti Tyson fury. I am a boxing fan. Particularly a fan of the heavyweights. I can't see any logical reason to favour fury out of the 2 men. you say AJ in in better Nick? True but when has boxing become a bodybuilding contest, AJ has a muscular body type fury hasn't simple as that, looks don't hurt people and I'm sure AJ has been using juice along with hgh at some point, his gut tells me he has been using hgh, don't get me wrong AJ obviously has good genetics for building muscle and wouldn't all be juice but I and loads of other people think he's done a bit of juice somewhere along the line. But if you look at traditional old time fighting men none of them have good athletic looking body's but could still have the engine to fight for hours without gassing out, I'm a lifelong supporter of furys and the honest truth is beacuse I think he is the most underrated heavyweight boxer who will prove that when he beats klitchko this autum, I strongly strongly believe this will happen and have lost count of the arguementd I have had with other men about this and i currently have made bets for allot of money with a few different people and I am 500 percent confident Tyson will do the business You clearly don't like AJ. And it's a shame, as a boxing fan I can't see what there is to dislike. I want Tyson to beat klitscho. Course I do. He's a local lad against a foreigner. But I'm afraid I can't see it. He just isn't good enough. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Gnasher it wouldn't be right for a traveller to support a black man over one of their own Oh thats how it works is it.......well thats fair enough why dont they just say that then ! Oh I think he's a good boxer, I've never said he wasn't, he can give it but can he take it the big question ?? Remember the hype around David price, remember am it Khan, AJ will be like them, similar to frank Bruno he'll get taken into deep waters and knocked out in his next 6 fights. Also what's infatuated mean?Can i ask how you know that ?......have you ever seen him hard spar ?........... why constantly compare to other fighters Joshua is as individual as anyone else you cant say because Price/Khan/Bruno fought a certain way so will Josh thats just silly !.........you are talking as though your opinions are knowledge but they are not they are guesswork. And also,Fury proved he has a brittle chin getting knocked over by journeymen do you class him as another Khan ? It's guesswork yes I never said it was no different I might be wrong yes, fury has a suspect chin yes but I don't think it is as bad as people make out, if you watch the fight with Cunningham watch closely he takes the same overhand right a few rounds later exact same shot and takes it absolute fine, but journey man I guess your talking about pajick or what ever had is called but I can't comment as I've only ever watched that fight ones ages ago and never bothered to watch it agian, Steve Cunningham fight on the over hand I've played loads off timesYeah but you're forgetting that Cunnigham wasn't even a big hitter at Cruiserweight, we've yet to see how both Joshua or Fury perform against someone their own heights yet also.No not a big hitter your right, but he took the same shot like it wasn't anything later on in the fight, I think he he was just caught of balance more than anything beacuse he wasnt hurt at all and got up more worried aboutulling his shorts back up time will tell with fury and time will tell with Joshua, but if the pair thought anytime soon I know who my ild bet my life of and it wouldn't be AJI think you are mad. Don't get offended. Just hear me out.Fury has got a suspect chin, and takes lots of shots on the chin that don't always hurt him. How on earth a guy with that reach gets tagged as much as he does against much shorter opponents is another debate. AJ avoids getting hit. AJ has ALOT more power. AJ is clearly in much better nick. Now if I had to bet my life on one of the fighters it would be AJ. Equally if I HAD to fight against one of them then I would choose to get in with fury. I aren't anti Tyson fury. I am a boxing fan. Particularly a fan of the heavyweights. I can't see any logical reason to favour fury out of the 2 men. you say AJ in in better Nick? True but when has boxing become a bodybuilding contest, AJ has a muscular body type fury hasn't simple as that, looks don't hurt people and I'm sure AJ has been using juice along with hgh at some point, his gut tells me he has been using hgh, don't get me wrong AJ obviously has good genetics for building muscle and wouldn't all be juice but I and loads of other people think he's done a bit of juice somewhere along the line. But if you look at traditional old time fighting men none of them have good athletic looking body's but could still have the engine to fight for hours without gassing out, I'm a lifelong supporter of furys and the honest truth is beacuse I think he is the most underrated heavyweight boxer who will prove that when he beats klitchko this autum, I strongly strongly believe this will happen and have lost count of the arguementd I have had with other men about this and i currently have made bets for allot of money with a few different people and I am 500 percent confident Tyson will do the business You clearly don't like AJ. And it's a shame, as a boxing fan I can't see what there is to dislike. I want Tyson to beat klitscho. Course I do. He's a local lad against a foreigner. But I'm afraid I can't see it. He just isn't good enough. No I don't hate AJ I've made that clear enough times, but do you not agree different people have different body tipes, I know people who have been going to the gym for along time to build muscle and just seem to get no where it's beacuse there body tipes are not made for that simple as Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Gnasher it wouldn't be right for a traveller to support a black man over one of their own Oh thats how it works is it.......well thats fair enough why dont they just say that then ! Oh I think he's a good boxer, I've never said he wasn't, he can give it but can he take it the big question ?? Remember the hype around David price, remember am it Khan, AJ will be like them, similar to frank Bruno he'll get taken into deep waters and knocked out in his next 6 fights. Also what's infatuated mean?Can i ask how you know that ?......have you ever seen him hard spar ?........... why constantly compare to other fighters Joshua is as individual as anyone else you cant say because Price/Khan/Bruno fought a certain way so will Josh thats just silly !.........you are talking as though your opinions are knowledge but they are not they are guesswork. And also,Fury proved he has a brittle chin getting knocked over by journeymen do you class him as another Khan ? It's guesswork yes I never said it was no different I might be wrong yes, fury has a suspect chin yes but I don't think it is as bad as people make out, if you watch the fight with Cunningham watch closely he takes the same overhand right a few rounds later exact same shot and takes it absolute fine, but journey man I guess your talking about pajick or what ever had is called but I can't comment as I've only ever watched that fight ones ages ago and never bothered to watch it agian, Steve Cunningham fight on the over hand I've played loads off timesYeah but you're forgetting that Cunnigham wasn't even a big hitter at Cruiserweight, we've yet to see how both Joshua or Fury perform against someone their own heights yet also.No not a big hitter your right, but he took the same shot like it wasn't anything later on in the fight, I think he he was just caught of balance more than anything beacuse he wasnt hurt at all and got up more worried aboutulling his shorts back up time will tell with fury and time will tell with Joshua, but if the pair thought anytime soon I know who my ild bet my life of and it wouldn't be AJI think you are mad. Don't get offended. Just hear me out.Fury has got a suspect chin, and takes lots of shots on the chin that don't always hurt him. How on earth a guy with that reach gets tagged as much as he does against much shorter opponents is another debate. AJ avoids getting hit. AJ has ALOT more power. AJ is clearly in much better nick. Now if I had to bet my life on one of the fighters it would be AJ. Equally if I HAD to fight against one of them then I would choose to get in with fury. I aren't anti Tyson fury. I am a boxing fan. Particularly a fan of the heavyweights. I can't see any logical reason to favour fury out of the 2 men. you say AJ in in better Nick? True but when has boxing become a bodybuilding contest, AJ has a muscular body type fury hasn't simple as that, looks don't hurt people and I'm sure AJ has been using juice along with hgh at some point, his gut tells me he has been using hgh, don't get me wrong AJ obviously has good genetics for building muscle and wouldn't all be juice but I and loads of other people think he's done a bit of juice somewhere along the line. But if you look at traditional old time fighting men none of them have good athletic looking body's but could still have the engine to fight for hours without gassing out, I'm a lifelong supporter of furys and the honest truth is beacuse I think he is the most underrated heavyweight boxer who will prove that when he beats klitchko this autum, I strongly strongly believe this will happen and have lost count of the arguementd I have had with other men about this and i currently have made bets for allot of money with a few different people and I am 500 percent confident Tyson will do the businessYou clearly don't like AJ. And it's a shame, as a boxing fan I can't see what there is to dislike.I want Tyson to beat klitscho. Course I do. He's a local lad against a foreigner. But I'm afraid I can't see it. He just isn't good enough. No I don't hate AJ I've made that clear enough times, but do you not agree different people have different body tipes, I know people who have been going to the gym for along time to build muscle and just seem to get no where it's beacuse there body tipes are not made for that simple as Sure there are different body types. Endomorph, mesomorph, ectomorph. They can all get in good nick if they train and eat right though. Some pack size on easier than others. AJ physique is obtainable without AAS. Hard work and good diet. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Custyjook do you think hughie as got what it takes to beat AJ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I hope he retires(Mitchell) ..but a lot of fighters go on too long..For me when I guy fights his way to 3 world title shots they shouldn't have to fight on too long...They don't get paid enough for the risks they take.. Little bit lumped up but still smiling.... Retiring seems the last thing on his mind at the moment he,s on his trainers earhole to get back in the gym and Hearns earhole for another title shot........think theres some stern words ahead......sadly a fighter is often the last person to hear them. But what if he'd won?...would they be talking retirement then??....obviously i dont know the lad but he sounded pretty sharp and clear in the pre match interviews...he's made it pretty clear since Saturday that he wants to fight on...i was thinking maybe a re-match with Burns...bet all that money he spunked will haunt any retirement Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 As much as i rate Tyson Fury amoungst the present crop of Heavyweights...im a bit sick of hearing about the Furys for now...whats the opinions of Dillian Whyte??...Joshua's team have said they are looking for a match up with Whyte in September...obviously Whyte put Joshua on his arse in the amateurs...how much that means in the pros is debatable...the thing with Punchers like Joshua is their reputation has the opponent on the back foot from the first bell...dont think this will be the case with Whyte...the lad looks like he loves a good tear up...obviously he been out of the game for a couple a years...anyone know if he's kept busy in that time...think this maybe a good test for A.J...and a chance to gauge how far he's come?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darbo 4,774 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 As much as i rate Tyson Fury amoungst the present crop of Heavyweights...im a bit sick of hearing about the Furys for now...whats the opinions of Dillian Whyte??...Joshua's team have said they are looking for a match up with Whyte in September...obviously Whyte put Joshua on his arse in the amateurs...how much that means in the pros is debatable...the thing with Punchers like Joshua is their reputation has the opponent on the back foot from the first bell...dont think this will be the case with Whyte...the lad looks like he loves a good tear up...obviously he been out of the game for a couple a years...anyone know if he's kept busy in that time...think this maybe a good test for A.J...and a chance to gauge how far he's come?? 14-0 11kos 3 fights in 2014 2 fights this year so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,376 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 custy i dont me offence matey but the casuals you mention so often looking at your reply to my question is what you are you have limited if any real ring experience like alot of us why not give the kid credit he looks like hes being brought on right hes a decent prospect in a hard game but i think some of your comments towards the kid are unfounded and biased 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,040 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 But what if he'd won?...would they be talking retirement then??....obviously i dont know the lad but he sounded pretty sharp and clear in the pre match interviews...he's made it pretty clear since Saturday that he wants to fight on...i was thinking maybe a re-match with Burns...bet all that money he spunked will haunt any retirement Im not being arsey when i say this mate but have you ever been around a punchy fighter....it doesnt happen overnight 99% of the time they sound and act fine then the odd time you,ll notice slight changes......over time those changes become more obvious.....and more often. He,ll pass his medicals as the mri,s wont show anything but cerebral deterioration is progressive and can be very slow....so slow that it sometimes doesnt surface till the career has ended.......maybe im being over protective but when you know somebody well enough and you,ve seen it before you recognise it early..........would they be talking about retirement if he won....he was 10 seconds away from winning....but yes i was talking about him retiring before this fight. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 AJ would demolish both Flurrys in quick time. AJ Will be heavyweight champion and will ko whoever stands in front of him. I doubt very much that either flurry would want to step in the ring against him. He would probably flatten the pair of yhe flurries together. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,040 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 As much as i rate Tyson Fury amoungst the present crop of Heavyweights...im a bit sick of hearing about the Furys for now...whats the opinions of Dillian Whyte??...Joshua's team have said they are looking for a match up with Whyte in September...obviously Whyte put Joshua on his arse in the amateurs...how much that means in the pros is debatable...the thing with Punchers like Joshua is their reputation has the opponent on the back foot from the first bell...dont think this will be the case with Whyte...the lad looks like he loves a good tear up...obviously he been out of the game for a couple a years...anyone know if he's kept busy in that time...think this maybe a good test for A.J...and a chance to gauge how far he's come?? He,s kept in shape and been very active in gyms......but as im sure you know yourself gym active isnt fight active.............personally i dont think Dillian can test Joshua at this time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 As much as i rate Tyson Fury amoungst the present crop of Heavyweights...im a bit sick of hearing about the Furys for now...whats the opinions of Dillian Whyte??...Joshua's team have said they are looking for a match up with Whyte in September...obviously Whyte put Joshua on his arse in the amateurs...how much that means in the pros is debatable...the thing with Punchers like Joshua is their reputation has the opponent on the back foot from the first bell...dont think this will be the case with Whyte...the lad looks like he loves a good tear up...obviously he been out of the game for a couple a years...anyone know if he's kept busy in that time...think this maybe a good test for A.J...and a chance to gauge how far he's come?? 14-0 11kos 3 fights in 2014 2 fights this year so far. I dont know alot about the lad to be honest darbo...which is why i asked...was under the impression he was just coming off the back of a 2yr ban Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 As much as i rate Tyson Fury amoungst the present crop of Heavyweights...im a bit sick of hearing about the Furys for now...whats the opinions of Dillian Whyte??...Joshua's team have said they are looking for a match up with Whyte in September...obviously Whyte put Joshua on his arse in the amateurs...how much that means in the pros is debatable...the thing with Punchers like Joshua is their reputation has the opponent on the back foot from the first bell...dont think this will be the case with Whyte...the lad looks like he loves a good tear up...obviously he been out of the game for a couple a years...anyone know if he's kept busy in that time...think this maybe a good test for A.J...and a chance to gauge how far he's come?? He,s kept in shape and been very active in gyms......but as im sure you know yourself gym active isnt fight active.............personally i dont think Dillian can test Joshua at this time. Could he still sparr other pros and get paid for sparring while under a ban? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darbo 4,774 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 As much as i rate Tyson Fury amoungst the present crop of Heavyweights...im a bit sick of hearing about the Furys for now...whats the opinions of Dillian Whyte??...Joshua's team have said they are looking for a match up with Whyte in September...obviously Whyte put Joshua on his arse in the amateurs...how much that means in the pros is debatable...the thing with Punchers like Joshua is their reputation has the opponent on the back foot from the first bell...dont think this will be the case with Whyte...the lad looks like he loves a good tear up...obviously he been out of the game for a couple a years...anyone know if he's kept busy in that time...think this maybe a good test for A.J...and a chance to gauge how far he's come?? 14-0 11kos 3 fights in 2014 2 fights this year so far. I dont know alot about the lad to be honest darbo...which is why i asked...was under the impression he was just coming off the back of a 2yr ban Banned oct 2012 -oct 2014 .Had 2 fights nov 2014 1 fight dec 2014 2 fights feb 2015. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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