walshie 2,804 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 hes never likely to either .is he ? fighting the mugs hes fought .i still have a laugh to myself over your attempt a couple of years ago when you attempted to compare him with joe ffs .you and are going to have to have a nice little wager on your AJ if he ever steps into the ring with either of my cousins .Who do you want to bet on then ? being as how ive already said i think Fury would probably beat him at this time.......why you think ive got any sort of loyalty to Anthony Joshua is beyond me .....When Calzaghe and Froch were being compared who did i say i thought would win between them ?.......come on son dont make sweeping statements and then fall away again like you usually do when your asked to back them up ? And by the way i still have a laugh to myself about some of your statements re Calzaghe....things like " he never had Duff and Lawless behind him "......without realising he started his career off with who ? ....." mugs he fought " coming from a Calzaghe fan ......when you hero worship folk its probably best to learn a bit about them first ! Don't you boys jibber jabber about my ferreting buddy .... there's some stomachs sucked in there ken lol And has Calzaghe got platforms on? I've met him and didn't think he was 6'9" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arcticgun 4,548 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) It's good that we have a couple of genuine contenders for the world heavyweight title be great night too see two Brits fight one for and one to retain a unfied title that make a great thread lol I've followed Tyson from pro debut and despite certain aspects of him I genuinely enjoy watching him fight and think eventually think he will he a world title I think he is underated and a lot better than many think the fronts deceiving I think the best too come from him but for his age he come a long way Anthony Josua I also rate think he good role model extremely powerful puncher when he finds the openings he deffo will improve as he steps up in class after his next fight I'd like too see him fight chisora or price maybe haye to be fair he could step up fairly quickly as could Hugie fury again chisora or price would be ideal Tyson needs to get deal to fight klitchko or wilder try to unify the title oh yeah an-ex drug dealer makes a great feckin role model Must of missed that lol but hey he turned it around has he not? By the age of him I doubt he was a major gangster more likely misguided youth Edited May 21, 2015 by arcticgun 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baz 464 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 It's first thread I come to when I log on, been good bar the bickering... I'm an aj fan, think when and if fight happen he would do the job, not easily but do it .. Also would of loved to say haye v fury but he fannied out, , that pic of socks ferreting would of put shits up any tree huggers wouldn't it, haha ... Looks like a clip from bouncers 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Wlad is the man to beat and then I'd say in the following pack you have Anthony Joshua , Joe Parker , Hughie Fury and obviously next up for Wlad is Tyson Fury. As for Wilder I don't rate him one bit, pure hype machine that got gifted a World Title. All the above fighters have fought fighters of the same calibre that Wilder has faced , but they've fought them earlier in there careers. Wilder got a World Title shot even though he had never fought one fighter ranked in the top 30 ( some reports say top 50 ). There is some great match ups out there to wake the Heavyweight division up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wlad is the man to beat and then I'd say in the following pack you have Anthony Joshua , Joe Parker , Hughie Fury and obviously next up for Wlad is Tyson Fury. As for Wilder I don't rate him one bit, pure hype machine that got gifted a World Title. All the above fighters have fought fighters of the same calibre that Wilder has faced , but they've fought them earlier in there careers. Wilder got a World Title shot even though he had never fought one fighter ranked in the top 30 ( some reports say top 50 ). There is some great match ups out there to wake the Heavyweight division up. Mick... Stiverne was a top 10 fighter when Wilder fought him (still is)...i thought the second Arreola fight was a good scrap and Stiverne was a good tough test for Wilder...just my opinion but have always thought Tyson Fury v Wilder would be a more entertaining fight than Fury v Klitchko...always said Fury has the beating of Klitchko and will make him look old...as i said before think its way to early to be putting the likes of Joshua and Hughie Fury in with top 10 fighters...whats the rush?...i think Hughie v price could be a good fight...clean up the higher end of the domestic scene before moving up...everybody seems to have forgot about Alexander Povetkin...he fights Mike Perez this weekend...see how the dust settles on the division after that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 ......I hadnt heard it put like that but im inclined to agree with you mateSound mate. I'm looking forward to it. I don't think it's going to be an amazing fight but it's another tick in the box for joshua and it will show people that he can take the big shots as well as dish them out. That's if Johnson lands any At the end of the day these young prospects are in a no win situation at this stage,back years ago your learning would come in the gym but gym wars are a thing of the past now these lads are getting on the job learning and a pay packet on top....but they are not fights you would expect them to lose. Im more looking forward to the John Ryder/Nick Blackwell fight on the same bill that should be a cracking little scrap......and for me the biggest fight of the night....of the year even......infact on a personal level one of the biggest fights i can ever remember is my boy Kevin Mitchell attempting to pick up a world title belt.......dont fancy his chances myself i fear he missed the boat but he,s in great nick and its now or never so i hope like ive never hoped before that he can win this fight.....if he does i,ll buy every member on here a drink .....the weird ones included Looking forward to the Ryder v Blackwell fight too...is Mitchell Smith on the bill aswell?...his last little scrap was an untidy affair He,s not no he,s sunning himself in Egypt at the moment .....................whos your pick from the Ryder/Blackwell scrap chief ? Too close to call really...think Ryder might edge it...just looking forward to a good'ol British title scrap to be honest 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 ......I hadnt heard it put like that but im inclined to agree with you mateSound mate. I'm looking forward to it. I don't think it's going to be an amazing fight but it's another tick in the box for joshua and it will show people that he can take the big shots as well as dish them out. That's if Johnson lands any At the end of the day these young prospects are in a no win situation at this stage,back years ago your learning would come in the gym but gym wars are a thing of the past now these lads are getting on the job learning and a pay packet on top....but they are not fights you would expect them to lose. Im more looking forward to the John Ryder/Nick Blackwell fight on the same bill that should be a cracking little scrap......and for me the biggest fight of the night....of the year even......infact on a personal level one of the biggest fights i can ever remember is my boy Kevin Mitchell attempting to pick up a world title belt.......dont fancy his chances myself i fear he missed the boat but he,s in great nick and its now or never so i hope like ive never hoped before that he can win this fight.....if he does i,ll buy every member on here a drink .....the weird ones included Looking forward to the Ryder v Blackwell fight too...is Mitchell Smith on the bill aswell?...his last little scrap was an untidy affair He,s not no he,s sunning himself in Egypt at the moment .....................whos your pick from the Ryder/Blackwell scrap chief ? Too close to call really...think Ryder might edge it...just looking forward to a good'ol British title scrap to be honest what happened framton v quigg that would have been a good british fight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wlad is the man to beat and then I'd say in the following pack you have Anthony Joshua , Joe Parker , Hughie Fury and obviously next up for Wlad is Tyson Fury. As for Wilder I don't rate him one bit, pure hype machine that got gifted a World Title. All the above fighters have fought fighters of the same calibre that Wilder has faced , but they've fought them earlier in there careers. Wilder got a World Title shot even though he had never fought one fighter ranked in the top 30 ( some reports say top 50 ). There is some great match ups out there to wake the Heavyweight division up. Mick... Stiverne was a top 10 fighter when Wilder fought him (still is)...i thought the second Arreola fight was a good scrap and Stiverne was a good tough test for Wilder...just my opinion but have always thought Tyson Fury v Wilder would be a more entertaining fight than Fury v Klitchko...always said Fury has the beating of Klitchko and will make him look old...as i said before think its way to early to be putting the likes of Joshua and Hughie Fury in with top 10 fighters...whats the rush?...i think Hughie v price could be a good fight...clean up the higher end of the domestic scene before moving up...everybody seems to have forgot about Alexander Povetkin...he fights Mike Perez this weekend...see how the dust settles on the division after thatRead on Peter furys Twitter page he's looking to match hughie with manual charr, Ustinov or arreola in July time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darbo 4,776 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 ......I hadnt heard it put like that but im inclined to agree with you mateSound mate. I'm looking forward to it. I don't think it's going to be an amazing fight but it's another tick in the box for joshua and it will show people that he can take the big shots as well as dish them out. That's if Johnson lands any At the end of the day these young prospects are in a no win situation at this stage,back years ago your learning would come in the gym but gym wars are a thing of the past now these lads are getting on the job learning and a pay packet on top....but they are not fights you would expect them to lose. Im more looking forward to the John Ryder/Nick Blackwell fight on the same bill that should be a cracking little scrap......and for me the biggest fight of the night....of the year even......infact on a personal level one of the biggest fights i can ever remember is my boy Kevin Mitchell attempting to pick up a world title belt.......dont fancy his chances myself i fear he missed the boat but he,s in great nick and its now or never so i hope like ive never hoped before that he can win this fight.....if he does i,ll buy every member on here a drink .....the weird ones included Looking forward to the Ryder v Blackwell fight too...is Mitchell Smith on the bill aswell?...his last little scrap was an untidy affair He,s not no he,s sunning himself in Egypt at the moment .....................whos your pick from the Ryder/Blackwell scrap chief ? Too close to call really...think Ryder might edge it...just looking forward to a good'ol British title scrap to be honest what happened framton v quigg that would have been a good british fight. A proposed fight between Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg will not happen soon, according to Frampton's manager and promoter Barry McGuigan. It was hoped that Belfast's Frampton, the IBF super-bantamweight champion, and Quigg, who holds a portion of the WBA title, would meet this summer. But McGuigan said Quigg's team would not agree on a 60-40 purse split in favour of Frampton. "It's sad for the fans because we wanted it to happen," said McGuigan. "Carl was willing to travel to England to put his title on the line, and when the champion does that he normally gets the majority of the purse. "Carl is a valid champion. Scott Quigg is the WBA's 'regular' champion, not the real champion, which is [Cuba's] Guillermo Rigondeaux. Play media Jump media player Media player help Out of media player. Press enter to return or tab to continue. Carl Frampton says Scott Quigg bout 'must now happen' "Carl has drawn crowds of 16,000 in Belfast. I don't want to be rude to Scott Quigg, but he's never headlined a show. "We wanted a minimum of 60-40, not the winner takes 60-40 [as Quigg's promoter Eddie Hearn is on record as offering], because that's unfair on the fighters." Earlier this month, Hearn appeared on Sky Sports brandishing a £1.5m cheque, which he promised Frampton if he took the unification fight. Added former featherweight world champion McGuigan: "It was going along fine and then Eddie Hearn said: 'We're going to make you an offer.' "He did it because he's bullish, he's cocky and he thinks he has control of everything, but he hasn't. "They weren't willing to play ball. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. We're well on the way to getting another opponent." The 28-year-old Frampton, who is unbeaten in 20 professional fights, stopped Californian Chris Avalos to retain his IBF belt in March. Unbeaten Quigg, 26, successfully defended his super-bantamweight title for a fifth time in November with a unanimous points win over Hidenori Otake. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Wlad is the man to beat and then I'd say in the following pack you have Anthony Joshua , Joe Parker , Hughie Fury and obviously next up for Wlad is Tyson Fury. As for Wilder I don't rate him one bit, pure hype machine that got gifted a World Title. All the above fighters have fought fighters of the same calibre that Wilder has faced , but they've fought them earlier in there careers. Wilder got a World Title shot even though he had never fought one fighter ranked in the top 30 ( some reports say top 50 ). There is some great match ups out there to wake the Heavyweight division up.Mick... Stiverne was a top 10 fighter when Wilder fought him (still is)...i thought the second Arreola fight was a good scrap and Stiverne was a good tough test for Wilder...just my opinion but have always thought Tyson Fury v Wilder would be a more entertaining fight than Fury v Klitchko...always said Fury has the beating of Klitchko and will make him look old...as i said before think its way to early to be putting the likes of Joshua and Hughie Fury in with top 10 fighters...whats the rush?...i think Hughie v price could be a good fight...clean up the higher end of the domestic scene before moving up...everybody seems to have forgot about Alexander Povetkin...he fights Mike Perez this weekend...see how the dust settles on the division after thatRead on Peter furys Twitter page he's looking to match hughie with manual charr, Ustinov or arreola in July time. But Cushty...that cant be right Charr and Ustinov are nowhere near top 10 world rated Heavyweight contenders...you and Brookie promised us all...Hughies next opponents in July and September would be top 10 contenders...with Hughie beating Wilder within 12mnths..."heard it here first all bets covered blah blah blah"...Now Arreola would be a good tough test for Hughie (but he aint top 10 either!)...but Hughie getting set to fight in July and Arreola booked to fight in the U.S next month...so is he going to cut short his training by a month? Edited May 22, 2015 by AKA-BRINDLE 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 ......I hadnt heard it put like that but im inclined to agree with you mateSound mate. I'm looking forward to it. I don't think it's going to be an amazing fight but it's another tick in the box for joshua and it will show people that he can take the big shots as well as dish them out. That's if Johnson lands any At the end of the day these young prospects are in a no win situation at this stage,back years ago your learning would come in the gym but gym wars are a thing of the past now these lads are getting on the job learning and a pay packet on top....but they are not fights you would expect them to lose. Im more looking forward to the John Ryder/Nick Blackwell fight on the same bill that should be a cracking little scrap......and for me the biggest fight of the night....of the year even......infact on a personal level one of the biggest fights i can ever remember is my boy Kevin Mitchell attempting to pick up a world title belt.......dont fancy his chances myself i fear he missed the boat but he,s in great nick and its now or never so i hope like ive never hoped before that he can win this fight.....if he does i,ll buy every member on here a drink .....the weird ones included Looking forward to the Ryder v Blackwell fight too...is Mitchell Smith on the bill aswell?...his last little scrap was an untidy affair He,s not no he,s sunning himself in Egypt at the moment .....................whos your pick from the Ryder/Blackwell scrap chief ? Too close to call really...think Ryder might edge it...just looking forward to a good'ol British title scrap to be honest what happened framton v quigg that would have been a good british fight. A proposed fight between Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg will not happen soon, according to Frampton's manager and promoter Barry McGuigan. It was hoped that Belfast's Frampton, the IBF super-bantamweight champion, and Quigg, who holds a portion of the WBA title, would meet this summer. But McGuigan said Quigg's team would not agree on a 60-40 purse split in favour of Frampton. "It's sad for the fans because we wanted it to happen," said McGuigan. "Carl was willing to travel to England to put his title on the line, and when the champion does that he normally gets the majority of the purse. "Carl is a valid champion. Scott Quigg is the WBA's 'regular' champion, not the real champion, which is [Cuba's] Guillermo Rigondeaux. Play media Jump media player Media player help Out of media player. Press enter to return or tab to continue. Carl Frampton says Scott Quigg bout 'must now happen' "Carl has drawn crowds of 16,000 in Belfast. I don't want to be rude to Scott Quigg, but he's never headlined a show. "We wanted a minimum of 60-40, not the winner takes 60-40 [as Quigg's promoter Eddie Hearn is on record as offering], because that's unfair on the fighters." Earlier this month, Hearn appeared on Sky Sports brandishing a £1.5m cheque, which he promised Frampton if he took the unification fight. Added former featherweight world champion McGuigan: "It was going along fine and then Eddie Hearn said: 'We're going to make you an offer.' "He did it because he's bullish, he's cocky and he thinks he has control of everything, but he hasn't. "They weren't willing to play ball. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. We're well on the way to getting another opponent." The 28-year-old Frampton, who is unbeaten in 20 professional fights, stopped Californian Chris Avalos to retain his IBF belt in March. Unbeaten Quigg, 26, successfully defended his super-bantamweight title for a fifth time in November with a unanimous points win over Hidenori Otake. 1.5million for british bantamweights,thats some dough for a nights work.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Frampton obviously thinks he can make more money elsewhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Tyson was in Smithys gaff very recently, up the hill in littleborough, wou;d'nt go in cause he was smokeing, according to smithy the man who pays the piper calls the dance. Full pf shit that heavyweight scene, though i'm loathe to admit it...i feel lennys reet regarding them being any other weight then they simply would'nt make it...wou;d'nt pay a ching to watch any of them is my opinion. Edited May 22, 2015 by oneredtrim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) AKA BRINDLE The only ranked fighter inside the Top 30 some say Top 50 that Wilder has fought is Stiverne and this fight was for the World Title !?!? So had to fight him. And to date is still the only ranked fighter he has faced. It is a disgrace to boxing how Wilder was gifted a Title Shot with out having to face not even one other ranked contender. To put it into perspective, Wilder has had 33 fights and in his 32nd fight fought Jason Gavern and in his 27th fight he fought Mathew Greer. Anthony Joshua has had 12 fights and fought Jason Gavern in his 11th fight. Hughie Fury has had 15 fights and fought Mathew Greer in his 13th fight. Have a look at Wilders record and it's easy to see how he stopped them all apart from Stiverne. Wilder is also defending this Title against an un ranked Fighter outside the top ten. Edit to say he is defending against Eric Molina. Edited May 22, 2015 by MickC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Wlad is the man to beat and then I'd say in the following pack you have Anthony Joshua , Joe Parker , Hughie Fury and obviously next up for Wlad is Tyson Fury. As for Wilder I don't rate him one bit, pure hype machine that got gifted a World Title. All the above fighters have fought fighters of the same calibre that Wilder has faced , but they've fought them earlier in there careers. Wilder got a World Title shot even though he had never fought one fighter ranked in the top 30 ( some reports say top 50 ). There is some great match ups out there to wake the Heavyweight division up. Mick... Stiverne was a top 10 fighter when Wilder fought him (still is)...i thought the second Arreola fight was a good scrap and Stiverne was a good tough test for Wilder...just my opinion but have always thought Tyson Fury v Wilder would be a more entertaining fight than Fury v Klitchko...always said Fury has the beating of Klitchko and will make him look old...as i said before think its way to early to be putting the likes of Joshua and Hughie Fury in with top 10 fighters...whats the rush?...i think Hughie v price could be a good fight...clean up the higher end of the domestic scene before moving up...everybody seems to have forgot about Alexander Povetkin...he fights Mike Perez this weekend...see how the dust settles on the division after thatRead on Peter furys Twitter page he's looking to match hughie with manual charr, Ustinov or arreola in July time. But Cushty...that cant be right Charr and Ustinov are nowhere near top 10 world rated Heavyweight contenders...you and Brookie promised us all...Hughies next opponents in July and September would be top 10 contenders...with Hughie beating Wilder within 12mnths..."heard it here first all bets covered blah blah blah"...Now Arreola would be a good tough test for Hughie (but he aint top 10 either!)...but Hughie getting set to fight in July and Arreola booked to fight in the U.S next month...so is he going to cut short his training by a month?No I know I type top ten but it was a mistake, I meant top tier oppentents and char, Ustinov, de mori and arreola are all good challenges for hughie. I don't know when he's fighting or who he's fighting I'm just going on what Peter fury has said on Twitter, I don't have twitter but go on there occasionally to keep up with news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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