Greengrass 202 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 No not a big hitter your right, but he took the same shot like it wasn't anything later on in the fight, I think he he was just caught of balance more than anything beacuse he wasnt hurt at all and got up more worried aboutulling his shorts back up time will tell with fury and time will tell with Joshua, but if the pair thought anytime soon I know who my ild bet my life of and it wouldn't be AJ Have you ever heard the expression " caught cold ".....very often a fighter will be caught early on and be shaken by a punch that later on in the fight doesnt have the same effect......look at Amir Khan for example particularly against Maidana where he stopped some heavy shots late on......the same shots that earlier in the fight had him all over the show. Joshua wont be fighting Fury anytime soon......its worth keeping realistic that was Joshuas 13th pro fight.......Furys 13th pro fight was against somebody called Zack Page,a 38 year old cruiserweight who had already lost 40 odd fights Let him grow and develop and if they both carry on winning its a big fight down the line on the world stage......at the moment its just a big domestic fight. Should,nt a good trainer be able to make his man alert to this ? Just a simple question Gnasher, if you send a boy into the ring , have him ready for what's coming ! Yes/no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,425 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Could he still sparr other pros and get paid for sparring while under a ban? Im 99% sure the bbboc can only stop a fighter from competing they cant stop him earning a living as thats getting into employment laws etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greengrass 202 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 What was he barred for anyway ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) Gnasher it wouldn't be right for a traveller to support a black man over one of their own Oh thats how it works is it.......well thats fair enough why dont they just say that then ! Oh I think he's a good boxer, I've never said he wasn't, he can give it but can he take it the big question ?? Remember the hype around David price, remember am it Khan, AJ will be like them, similar to frank Bruno he'll get taken into deep waters and knocked out in his next 6 fights. Also what's infatuated mean?Can i ask how you know that ?......have you ever seen him hard spar ?........... why constantly compare to other fighters Joshua is as individual as anyone else you cant say because Price/Khan/Bruno fought a certain way so will Josh thats just silly !.........you are talking as though your opinions are knowledge but they are not they are guesswork. And also,Fury proved he has a brittle chin getting knocked over by journeymen do you class him as another Khan ? It's guesswork yes I never said it was no different I might be wrong yes, fury has a suspect chin yes but I don't think it is as bad as people make out, if you watch the fight with Cunningham watch closely he takes the same overhand right a few rounds later exact same shot and takes it absolute fine, but journey man I guess your talking about pajick or what ever had is called but I can't comment as I've only ever watched that fight ones ages ago and never bothered to watch it agian, Steve Cunningham fight on the over hand I've played loads off timesYeah but you're forgetting that Cunnigham wasn't even a big hitter at Cruiserweight, we've yet to see how both Joshua or Fury perform against someone their own heights yet also.No not a big hitter your right, but he took the same shot like it wasn't anything later on in the fight, I think he he was just caught of balance more than anything beacuse he wasnt hurt at all and got up more worried aboutulling his shorts back up time will tell with fury and time will tell with Joshua, but if the pair thought anytime soon I know who my ild bet my life of and it wouldn't be AJI think you are mad. Don't get offended. Just hear me out.Fury has got a suspect chin, and takes lots of shots on the chin that don't always hurt him. How on earth a guy with that reach gets tagged as much as he does against much shorter opponents is another debate. AJ avoids getting hit. AJ has ALOT more power. AJ is clearly in much better nick. Now if I had to bet my life on one of the fighters it would be AJ. Equally if I HAD to fight against one of them then I would choose to get in with fury. I aren't anti Tyson fury. I am a boxing fan. Particularly a fan of the heavyweights. I can't see any logical reason to favour fury out of the 2 men. you say AJ in in better Nick? True but when has boxing become a bodybuilding contest, AJ has a muscular body type fury hasn't simple as that, looks don't hurt people and I'm sure AJ has been using juice along with hgh at some point, his gut tells me he has been using hgh, don't get me wrong AJ obviously has good genetics for building muscle and wouldn't all be juice but I and loads of other people think he's done a bit of juice somewhere along the line. But if you look at traditional old time fighting men none of them have good athletic looking body's but could still have the engine to fight for hours without gassing out, I'm a lifelong supporter of furys and the honest truth is beacuse I think he is the most underrated heavyweight boxer who will prove that when he beats klitchko this autum, I strongly strongly believe this will happen and have lost count of the arguementd I have had with other men about this and i currently have made bets for allot of money with a few different people and I am 500 percent confident Tyson will do the business You clearly don't like AJ. And it's a shame, as a boxing fan I can't see what there is to dislike. I want Tyson to beat klitscho. Course I do. He's a local lad against a foreigner. But I'm afraid I can't see it. He just isn't good enough. No I don't hate AJ I've made that clear enough times, but do you not agree different people have different body tipes, I know people who have been going to the gym for along time to build muscle and just seem to get no where it's beacuse there body tipes are not made for that simple as Sure there are different body types. Endomorph, mesomorph, ectomorph. They can all get in good nick if they train and eat right though. Some pack size on easier than others. AJ physique is obtainable without AAS. Hard work and good diet. Ok well when Tyson was in the best shape of this life when in training camp for David haye which. Ever materialised he still didn't look that impressive on a muscle way of things, but far better than he looks for jokey Abel as he was about 20 stone and really fat, same city chisora not as fat but was in really bad shape, I should imagine for the klitchko fight we will see him in the same shape as he was for haye which again looks like your adverwge man, but as I said for fury tip top condition he's never going to look like AJ or klitchko muscle wise even if he jumped on aas just not that sort of body tipe Edited June 1, 2015 by CushtyJook Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,425 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Should,nt a good trainer be able to make his man alert to this ? Just a simple question Gnasher, if you send a boy into the ring , have him ready for what's coming ! Yes/no Of course...........doesnt always work out though does it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 As much as i rate Tyson Fury amoungst the present crop of Heavyweights...im a bit sick of hearing about the Furys for now...whats the opinions of Dillian Whyte??...Joshua's team have said they are looking for a match up with Whyte in September...obviously Whyte put Joshua on his arse in the amateurs...how much that means in the pros is debatable...the thing with Punchers like Joshua is their reputation has the opponent on the back foot from the first bell...dont think this will be the case with Whyte...the lad looks like he loves a good tear up...obviously he been out of the game for a couple a years...anyone know if he's kept busy in that time...think this maybe a good test for A.J...and a chance to gauge how far he's come?? Been watching a few of his past fights this evening and the fight he beats AJ I want him to be the man to derail the hype train Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIK 4,763 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Cushty will you answer my question will you take a bet that AJ will beat Hughie?????????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) custy i dont me offence matey but the casuals you mention so often looking at your reply to my question is what you are you have limited if any real ring experience like alot of us why not give the kid credit he looks like hes being brought on right hes a decent prospect in a hard game but i think some of your comments towards the kid are unfounded and biased No offence taken but how on Gods earth do you know what I have and haven't done ? I already told you when you asked me before I said I no longer box due to a bad accident I suffered. However I will fight when I feel i need to but haven't had a fight in over a year now Edited June 1, 2015 by CushtyJook Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Cushty will you answer my question will you take a bet that AJ will beat Hughie?????????? Sorry I a. Replying to lots on here now, and yes I will take any bet please pm me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crackers 807 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Cushty will you answer my question will you take a bet that AJ will beat Hughie??????????Sorry I a. Replying to lots on here now, and yes I will take any bet please pm mewow!!!! Your f***ing barking mad lad.... Wipe ya mouth and stop dribbling your shit please and do us all a favour...??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIK 4,763 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 No need for pm lad but heres my offer if I will bet you a grand that AJ will beat Hughie Fury I will give you the draw and if I win I will give your grand to the charity of my choice 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,819 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 bit off topic but is it easy to hold pads for somebody, do you just hold them an let em hot em or is there more to it? I know its a daft question lol but I admit I know fook all about this subject Done properly is a real skill,,and can take a lot of experience to master...and is quite tiring,,,, So's wanking lol Cheers, D. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Cushty will you answer my question will you take a bet that AJ will beat Hughie??????????Sorry I a. Replying to lots on here now, and yes I will take any bet please pm mewow!!!! Your f***ing barking mad lad.... Wipe ya mouth and stop dribbling your shit please and do us all a favour...What the f**k you on about you crackpot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,425 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 No need for pm lad but heres my offer if I will bet you a grand that AJ will beat Hughie Fury I will give you the draw and if I win I will give your grand to the charity of my choice Fair do,s mate i like your style 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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