kanny 21,283 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 I think you are missing a decimal point http://m.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/economic/how-much-do-we-give-the-eu-and-how-much-do-we-get-back/9099.article?mobilesite=enabled . 14 billion a year to get raped.....OUT! Not 14 billion .....140 billion !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 the UK cant afford to stay I Europe we should get out asap the money we d save would sort out the deficit the nhs and many more things to boot and as for all this bollocks we d loose out we are the biggest market for Europe the uk is bmw biggest market we are the French wine market let alone all the Spanish fruit etc that comes into the uk jtust look at the amount of foreign trucks over here all bringing stuff to us a lot of the trucks go back to Europe empty then pick up aload for home or back here , and with all the savings we sort out the the NHS - deficit - rebuild our armed forces then we can start cutting our taxes to make it more attractive for firms to move here and do business and we could return to being one of the richest country in the world and then id bet madam sturgeon wouldn't be so keen to want independence then 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,082 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Could I ask what deficit and who do yous/we the UK owe the money too? I never heard 1 politician ask that question... what I mean is if the bank of England who prints the money sterling, is publicly owned since 1998 by the british people...who do we the UK owe the money too...ourselves?? im confused why don't they just write of our own debt and stop scaring the life out of ordinary folk who certainly didn't get the UK into that debt or is it the banks not really publicly owned and everything and I mean everything in politics/banking is smoke and mirrors ? And on the E.U. GET YOUS TO IT YOUS ARE STAYING IN IT! its a cash cow for the top oligarchs and the mass population are not invited... middle class and poor folks have no voice in the UK right now or ever really and if you try to speak up you get pepper sprayed water cannoned threw in a cell and a public order offence to boot... we are living in communist Russia and if folk cant see that well yous might aswell give stevie wonder a shout to go shooting with you. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J_Edwards 70 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Well, Dave's promised a referendum, so we'll have to wait and see. Personally, I think we should make our own laws, which suit our country's interests, and put the money that we give to the EU to a better cause. With all this talk of the EU, something's bound to change. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Weighing up what we get out of the EU compared to what we give them...OUT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 If Britain is to survive as an independant nation we need out of the eu as soon as possible, there are moves afoot in the eu to make leaving the eu almost impossible by countries already in it, cameron knows this and this is why he has been stalling on an in/out referendum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,748 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Make no mistake, the population is so easily led by the nose they nearly always vote on the face value of something and certainly are not willing to risk any pain (such as a £5k cut in the price of their house ) to sacrifice for real reform. They will load the question, expand the population and put a gun to the head of England that would mean real pain if we came out.......they are masters of manipulation and the proof is in the election just gone. Who REALLY thought Cameron was any different to Milliband or Clegg ? Obviously lots did and England bottled the best chance of real political reform in a century. See, the economy is meaningless in terms of your life really.....they can't let you go skint as the big corporations wouldn't have enough customers..... The REAL thing folk should be looking at is the freedoms you are losing almost daily.......you are filmed everywhere you go, you are given so many fixed penalty type things that you have almost given up questioning anybody official that rocks up demanding money (you just pay or else), you can't make a joke about a black man or even give voice to an opinion that differs from what they say you are allowed to say.........that my friends is all as sinister as f**k IMHO It's a reality that matters so much more than a few grand on your house.......what price freedom?......seemingly a 50" flat screen and £5k house value. The fact is, England will do exactly as they are told on Europe because they now know that we don't have the plums to do anything else ! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 stop end the money isn't bank of England money it all the money we borrowed from the INTERNATIONAL MONATARY FUND and the interest cripples us GET OUT OF EUROPE ASAP MAKE OUR OWN RULES SORT OUR OWN BORDERS AND REGULATE IMMIGRATION SORT ALL THE PROBLEMS OUT WITH ALL THE MONEY WE SAVE then drop the taxes and encourage investment in England plc and fck Europe we don't mind trading with them but that's it we are an island and should be self sufficient 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,283 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Yeah it's all bolloxs if all the world debt was called in tomorrow then there's no way near enough to money in circulation to cover it ...this means that every pound in your pocket has a debt more than its value attached to it making it less than worthless!...all controlled by just a few... it's a machine ... how do we change it?..fukt if I know. Atb kanny 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Money is a piece of paper, an the rest is numbers on a screen, il get my coat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Hard to say at this stage. I'm of the same opinion as BH, and it needs way more research. Whatever the cost of being in the EU is you will never see any of that money in your pockets, if we leave. Westminster will find another use for it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,802 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Hard to say at this stage. I'm of the same opinion as BH, and it needs way more research. Whatever the cost of being in the EU is you will never see any of that money in your pockets, if we leave. Westminster will find another use for it. I don't doubt for a second Westminster will find another use for it Chris , but it will be OUR governments choice what to spend it on not a bunch of EU ministers living high on the hog at someone else's expense 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I don't doubt for a second Westminster will find another use for it Chris , but it will be OUR governments choice what to spend it on not a bunch of EU ministers living high on the hog at someone else's expense I'd rather see that money coming off everyday living expenses. It's our money. Not the governments. They don't have a choice what to spend it on because they shouldn't have it in the first place. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,802 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I don't doubt for a second Westminster will find another use for it Chris , but it will be OUR governments choice what to spend it on not a bunch of EU ministers living high on the hog at someone else's expense I'd rather see that money coming off everyday living expenses. It's our money. Not the governments. They don't have a choice what to spend it on because they shouldn't have it in the first place. We both would like that but we both know that won't happen ..nice thought though ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Can't argue with that. Why is no one is demanding the difference though? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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