Lifting The Ban

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

ime not keen on shooting or shooting men, the lad had both of these on a lead when they were shot, but ill say no more. and i see where your coming from pal

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This is disgusting. What has happened about it?

 

Surely he should be locked up now awaiting his court date? If the dogs were on leads he has discharged a firearms in the direction of a member of the public?

 

If he gets away with it from a legal point of view then I hope their are other consequences.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

ime not keen on shooting or shooting men, the lad had both of these on a lead when they were shot, but ill say no more. and i see where your coming from paldogs shot.jpg

This is disgusting. What has happened about it?

Surely he should be locked up now awaiting his court date? If the dogs were on leads he has discharged a firearms in the direction of a member of the public?

If he gets away with it from a legal point of view then I hope their are other consequences.

That's exactly what I was thinking, surely technically there could be a case of 'attempted murder'?

[courseadog 231]

 

 

ime not keen on shooting or shooting men, the lad had both of these on a lead when they were shot, but ill say no more. and i see where your coming from paldogs shot.jpg

This is disgusting. What has happened about it?

Surely he should be locked up now awaiting his court date? If the dogs were on leads he has discharged a firearms in the direction of a member of the public?

If he gets away with it from a legal point of view then I hope their are other consequences.

That's exactly what I was thinking, surely technically there could be a case of 'attempted murder'?

He's probably got friends in the right places who again dislike running dogs and dog men

Or he will take the appropriate alternative action which doesn't involve the law

[CushtyJook 1,097]

the people who had the dogs shot, 2 days ago, know who the person who did it is and everything about him,

 

Ild bury the man on his own land!! if any farmer gamekeeper or such even raised a gun at my dogs

[the big chief 3,099]

ime not keen on shooting or shooting men, the lad had both of these on a lead when they were shot, but ill say no more. and i see where your coming from pal

dogs shot.jpg

I shoot cocker and I would never dream of shooting another mans dog that is just down right out of order and wrong I guess this shooter is getting what he deserves

[Tozer 385]

A pre-set way of emkailing your MPhttp://act.voteaction.uk/a/76

[shaaark 10,718]

Some very good points raised in this thread, and a couple by trenchfoot and timmy k excellent. Would it not be even better to drop the word 'sport' out of any literature, campaigns, stalls etc concerned with hunting and the countryside? I've said before I know very little of politics generally, but I know alot of people, non hunters etc, are more sympathetic/understanding about hunting in general if 'sport' isn't used in the conversation, as the very word says we're doing it for fun, having a laugh etc, which is another piece of ammunition antis pick up on and use against hunters, shooters and fishermen.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

Some very good points raised in this thread, and a couple by trenchfoot and timmy k excellent. Would it not be even better to drop the word 'sport' out of any literature, campaigns, stalls etc concerned with hunting and the countryside? I've said before I know very little of politics generally, but I know alot of people, non hunters etc, are more sympathetic/understanding about hunting in general if 'sport' isn't used in the conversation, as the very word says we're doing it for fun, having a laugh etc, which is another piece of ammunition antis pick up on and use against hunters, shooters and fishermen

We do not have to apologise for the term "sport". That term is used deliberately. our quarry has a sporting chance to escape, and should be given the respect it deserves. I take a great deal of enjoyment from field sports, but take the responsibilities that come with the freedom to partake in that enjoyment very seriously. Just as seriously as those who partake in football or any other "sport". Where many chose to follow their sport at places such as Old Trafford, or Twickenham, we chose to follow ours in the fields, hills and fens. And as much as don't ask those who follow football to justify their sport, neither should we have to apologise for ours. Just that we respect each others choices.

 

Never apologise.

[shaaark 10,718]

 

Some very good points raised in this thread, and a couple by trenchfoot and timmy k excellent. Would it not be even better to drop the word 'sport' out of any literature, campaigns, stalls etc concerned with hunting and the countryside? I've said before I know very little of politics generally, but I know alot of people, non hunters etc, are more sympathetic/understanding about hunting in general if 'sport' isn't used in the conversation, as the very word says we're doing it for fun, having a laugh etc, which is another piece of ammunition antis pick up on and use against hunters, shooters and fishermen

We do not have to apologise for the term "sport". That term is used deliberately. our quarry has a sporting chance to escape, and should be given the respect it deserves. I take a great deal of enjoyment from field sports, but take the responsibilities that come with the freedom to partake in that enjoyment very seriously. Just as seriously as those who partake in football or any other "sport". Where many chose to follow their sport at places such as Old Trafford, or Twickenham, we chose to follow ours in the fields, hills and fens. And as much as don't ask those who follow football to justify their sport, neither should we have to apologise for ours. Just that we respect each others choices.

 

Never apologise.

 

I see your point and agree, it's just that alot of people aren't as anti hunting etc if the word sport isn't used in conjunction with any hunting activity. And antis pick up on the 'tearing animals apart for fun,' ( sport ), their words not mine I hasten to add, and use it against all hunters. Like I said, I agree with you, but just thinking of ways/words etc that might help

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

 

Some very good points raised in this thread, and a couple by trenchfoot and timmy k excellent. Would it not be even better to drop the word 'sport' out of any literature, campaigns, stalls etc concerned with hunting and the countryside? I've said before I know very little of politics generally, but I know alot of people, non hunters etc, are more sympathetic/understanding about hunting in general if 'sport' isn't used in the conversation, as the very word says we're doing it for fun, having a laugh etc, which is another piece of ammunition antis pick up on and use against hunters, shooters and fishermen

We do not have to apologise for the term "sport". That term is used deliberately. our quarry has a sporting chance to escape, and should be given the respect it deserves. I take a great deal of enjoyment from field sports, but take the responsibilities that come with the freedom to partake in that enjoyment very seriously. Just as seriously as those who partake in football or any other "sport". Where many chose to follow their sport at places such as Old Trafford, or Twickenham, we chose to follow ours in the fields, hills and fens. And as much as don't ask those who follow football to justify their sport, neither should we have to apologise for ours. Just that we respect each others choices.

 

Never apologise.

 

I see your point and agree, it's just that alot of people aren't as anti hunting etc if the word sport isn't used in conjunction with any hunting activity. And antis pick up on the 'tearing animals apart for fun,' ( sport ), their words not mine I hasten to add, and use it against all hunters. Like I said, I agree with you, but just thinking of ways/words etc that might help

 

then they need to be educated. We cannot get away from the fact that when hunting, stuff gets killed. Yes sometimes a creature will get torn apart. I take no enjoyment from that fact. I want the job done quickly and effectively. Anybody who takes fun and glee from the brutal death has no right to call themselves a field sports person, or hunter. Nature is red in tooth and claw, and those basic principles of nature have worked well since the beginning of time, evolution is proof of that. When ever man has chosen to veer from that path, badshit has followed

[desertbred 5,490]

A follow up response from Graham stringer MP to further points I asked him to clarify. He has just been re-elected on his seat so his arrogance is unlimited. I just checked some of the legislation this man has strongly supported during his time as an MP, Unlimited immigration. Continued membership of the Eu. Gay marriage. and very strongly support for the Ban on hunting with dogs and absolute support against a repeal. He says he is elected to use "His "judgement not as a delegate inferring he decides not his constituents . I think his judgement needs questioning he mustnt realise the MP,S can be deselected now by their constituents.

 

Dear Mr Ali

 

Thank you for your email.

 

I have no doubt that the majority of my constituents are in favour of the ban on fox hunting but either way I am elected to exercise my judgment not to act as a delegate.

 

Certainly the Parliament Act was used to ensure that the will of the elected Commons overcame the resistance within the elected Lords. This is not an obscure Act but has been a central part of the United Kingdom’s constitution for more than a hundred years.

 

Yours sincerely

 

Graham Stringer MP

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Trenchfoot I agree with what you are saying, we should be able to call it "field sports"...

 

But like shaaark says, it offends. Simple as that. There's no educating some people. We all know that. And Joe public who are sat on the fence may just be swayed the other way when they think we are doing it for fun or for a hobby as opposed to offering an effective method of pest control and to assist farmers and land owners etc.

 

It's easy "f**k them" "call it what we want" etc. But sometimes, in times like these, we have to think a bit smart ?

[trenchfoot 4,243]

Gaz, I know where you are coming from. But what do you propose we call it?

"IT" is a way off life that we hold dear to our hearts.

We live in a country that does not understand "IT".

They have chosen to ban "IT". yet still we continue to follow the practices that "iIT" entails.

We are persecuted for doing "IT".

Some that do "IT" , do so in a manner that shows us and "IT" in a bad light, I like to think of them as the minority, extremists if you like.

Due to the actions of the "IT" extremists and a lack of any real knowledge of "IT" the vast majority have become more baised against us, often based upon what the media publish about "IT", which bares little resumblance to the real "IT".

 

Now swap "IT" for Islam, or any other religion you care to chose. There would be a bloody uproar

[cocker 2,654]

good on you anyway desertbred keep at them

[cocker 2,654]

the lad who had the dogs shot will be dealing with the "problem" himself in due course