New Pups A Nutter

[desertbred 5,490]

 

He doesnt know his position in the group, it needs to be taught sooner than later or its a major problem waiting to happen down the line.

It don't work like that , I don't confront pups for expressing natural canine behaviour , if you manage them and don't hyper excite them they're not half as worked up , when you excite you ignite

 

The puppy stage is not the right time for confronting a emotionally driven pup, the pup may need to bite it's programmed to bite when we confront that urge we cause a kink in its expression , maybe not in the next few months but it will show at maturity when we want to work hand to mouth with it

 

I have never had a biting dog ever not as much as a growl or a white eye look , I manage pups and channel it's biting into appropriate items , it honours the canine expression but doesn't confront it

 

It's a feeling the pup acts on not a thought , start inferring thoughts into a 8 week old pup head and you will in vision all sorts of terrible deeds waiting, if we break it down to the reality of the situation it becomes clear

If we don't ignite the fire we don't have to struggle to put it out , it's the same with every pup ,

 

I have spent all my 65 years around dogs and you tell me my methods dont work LOL you try training a pup with a every pup the same method you wont get very far, this is a grower he is talking about not an 8 week old pup straight off the tit. leave bad habits when it enters the group they become harder to control down the line

Edited May 7, 2015 by desertbred

[NE_courser 411]

Thanks for the advice, I think I do need to do more too be assertive with him. I do tend to be firm but fair, he's gotten away with a lot more shit than I would take in the past but maybe I'm softening up lol. He's recall and everything else is bang on, just sometimes he seems over top aggressive but not in a nasty way if that makes sense. He doesn't take p*ss just bites like feck lol Sorry for hijacking the thread laddylurcher, she's a fine young pup, nice to no I'm not the only with a phyco dog lol

[desertbred 5,490]

Kick it's cnut in pm me for suitable non accredited training methods to rid this behaviour

See thats where you have gone wrong with dickhead , to much food and walks and not enough boot and unrequited violence

[mushroom 12,827]

My mate got a growl off dickhead last night! We were sat on a terrace watching the footie, bron was by my feet chewing a fuuck off huge meaty bone. The mate arrived and said hello to us then literally bent down to stroke a dog he had known since the twat arrived in Barca on the bum/bottom of his back. And the cnut growled.... He won't do it again after my reaction I guarantee

[mushroom 12,827]

Soon as his bruises disappear and he stops pissing blood I'll post pics

[Casso 1,261]

 

 

He doesnt know his position in the group, it needs to be taught sooner than later or its a major problem waiting to happen down the line.

 

It don't work like that , I don't confront pups for expressing natural canine behaviour , if you manage them and don't hyper excite them they're not half as worked up , when you excite you ignite

The puppy stage is not the right time for confronting a emotionally driven pup, the pup may need to bite it's programmed to bite when we confront that urge we cause a kink in its expression , maybe not in the next few months but it will show at maturity when we want to work hand to mouth with it

I have never had a biting dog ever not as much as a growl or a white eye look , I manage pups and channel it's biting into appropriate items , it honours the canine expression but doesn't confront it

It's a feeling the pup acts on not a thought , start inferring thoughts into a 8 week old pup head and you will in vision all sorts of terrible deeds waiting, if we break it down to the reality of the situation it becomes clear

If we don't ignite the fire we don't have to struggle to put it out , it's the same with every pup ,

I have spent all my 65 years around dogs and you tell me my methods dont work LOL you try training a pup with a every pup the same method you wont get very far, this is a grower he is talking about not an 8 week old pup straight off the tit.

What I saying is the pup is acting on how it feels , it not training , if we don't create a situation we don't have to fix it , every pup and every breed of dog can be brought up in a social manner without panicking about what it might do in the future by management and building trust

The dog is a completely social animal as a pup , awareness of behavior is just keeping it that way

Edited May 7, 2015 by Casso

[desertbred 5,490]

Mush hope you beat him with the bone so he knew what the beating was for and then give the bone back to Bron (doesnt roll of the tongue as easy as dickhead)

Edited May 7, 2015 by desertbred

[mushroom 12,827]

Went town on him even went home first to pop my stomper boots on

 

He knew after I told him; that shit is about as acceptable as Jimmy and Gary hosting a kids party for poorly Yorkshire, Asian 12 year old kids from troubled backgrounds

 

Even though he had no concept of the aforementioned scenario

[LaddyLurcher 260]

Thanks for the advice, I think I do need to do more too be assertive with him. I do tend to be firm but fair, he's gotten away with a lot more shit than I would take in the past but maybe I'm softening up lol. He's recall and everything else is bang on, just sometimes he seems over top aggressive but not in a nasty way if that makes sense. He doesn't take p*ss just bites like feck lol Sorry for hijacking the thread laddylurcher, she's a fine young pup, nice to no I'm not the only with a phyco dog lol

it's ok mines only 8 week old nice to know some ones got a worse problem than me lol

[mushroom 12,827]

We are talking about the dog Desert... Right?

 

 

Seriously how does anyone allow an 8week pup to fuuckin growl and become food possessive

[desertbred 5,490]

We are talking about the dog Desert... Right?

 

 

Seriously how does anyone allow an 8week pup to fuuckin growl and become food possessive

Pup no! crocodile or lion negotiable

[NE_courser 411]

 

He doesnt know his position in the group, it needs to be taught sooner than later or its a major problem waiting to happen down the line.

It don't work like that , I don't confront pups for expressing natural canine behaviour , if you manage them and don't hyper excite them they're not half as worked up , when you excite you ignite

 

The puppy stage is not the right time for confronting a emotionally driven pup, the pup may need to bite it's programmed to bite when we confront that urge we cause a kink in its expression , maybe not in the next few months but it will show at maturity when we want to work hand to mouth with it

 

I have never had a biting dog ever not as much as a growl or a white eye look , I manage pups and channel it's biting into appropriate items , it honours the canine expression but doesn't confront it

 

It's a feeling the pup acts on not a thought , start inferring thoughts into a 8 week old pup head and you will in vision all sorts of terrible deeds waiting, if we break it down to the reality of the situation it becomes clear

If we don't ignite the fire we don't have to struggle to put it out , it's the same with every pup ,

he's not a small pup pal as DB said he's 12 months old. He's not a dangerous dog or a biter, as I wouldn't keep one. he's isn't aggresive over food,bones etc as it's something I've worked on from a young age. The main issue I have is that when were out if he becomes over would up or is set off by something could be a bang, sirens dogs barking etc. he ll litterally run a field to me to try pull my coat off chew my arms fingers jump up . He does this more in playing sense but can become quite agrivated, he's never been encouraged to do anything like this which is why I struggle to get my head around it. I think the dog is very loyal to his saluki ancestors in terms of general characteristics. Just too add this isn't me 'crabbing' my own dog just a bit of constructive criticism. I'm very happy with him and I do believe hand on heart he has that bit of something 'special' about him atb

[desertbred 5,490]

Sounds to me as though he is startled when something happens and he automatically has a flight reaction he grabs at your coat sleave and fingers etc as he associates these with restraint on the lead preventing him from distancing himself from the problem. It is part of the building trust and bond where he knows that you as his pack leader wont let anything happen to him just remain calm when it happens but straight away show that mouthing isnt acceptable , stern voice or eye contact and scruff him to the ground for a second then let him up walk a few yards then stroke and encourage him to maintain a bond,,most dogs have only short term memory for isolated incidents hence the repetition in training to instil the lesson into them. Just one other point Saluki,s have pretty good memories you see any place they run or kill take them back years later they will remember the excact spot and will go to the spot the seat was or the place the quarry made its escape., hence the old saying you fall out with a saluki it holds a grudge and trust is easily lost so calmness and patience but discipline from an early age isthe way to go.

[mushroom 12,827]

Cover ya fingers in beef fat or similar and when he tries to lick it kick his cnut right in

 

 

On a serious note; I have to say I wouldn't tolerate any mouthing by 12 months old mate by 4-5 months Max this should be done. The mouth is a weapon and should be treated as such by both dog and master IMO

[mushroom 12,827]

To add I have purposefully taken dickhead into situations where there is noise, crowds, cars even fireworks the point is this from an early age obviously aclimatises them to it. Worked with the last lurcher, staffy and terriers etc, with this boy he's good but he still reacts so only time will tell.