Longnet Lenght

[Fly The Boy 339]

getting into traditional longnetting at night,just before i buy the longnets what lenght net would suit a beginner?use 11 yard nets ferretting so have general idea,would two 50 yard nets be easyer to use than 100 yard?is there much difference weight on the wrist between one 50 and 100?

[Tiercel 6,986]

getting into traditional longnetting at night,just before i buy the longnets what lenght net would suit a beginner?use 11 yard nets ferretting so have general idea,would two 50 yard nets be easyer to use than 100 yard?is there much difference weight on the wrist between one 50 and 100?

A 100 yard 4z long net will weigh close to 3 kilos just the dry net. When I started I used 50 yard nets and sometimes that was hard on the wrists. Now I use 25 yards find it a lot easier.

 

TC

Edited May 1, 2015 by tiercel

[Fly The Boy 339]

reading through the forum i thought 6z would be the best suit me,would 4z be to much trouble for a beginner?plus id say the 6Z would last alot longer and catch just as good,im thinking rabbits would wreck the 4z at night.do the fuckers eat the nets often when their not in the net long,how many years would u get out of a longnet before i have to cut it for stop nets with the holes in it.

[Tiercel 6,986]

reading through the forum i thought 6z would be the best suit me,would 4z be to much trouble for a beginner?plus id say the 6Z would last alot longer and catch just as good,im thinking rabbits would wreck the 4z at night.do the fuckers eat the nets often when their not in the net long,how many years would u get out of a longnet before i have to cut it for stop nets with the holes in it.

Where do I start? There is a lot of misinformation bandied about on forums by people who have never set a net at night. Unfortunately people who know no better believe what they read. Will 6z catch rabbits? Answer yes. Will 6z catch as many rabbits as 4z? Never as long as you have a hole in your ar$e.

 

I have a 4z net here that is over 30 years old and it has some patches in it, does it still catch rabbits? Hell yes. Just remember a rabbit can chew through a 6z net just as fast as a 4z. As for cutting up a net learn how to mend them there is a tutorial as a sticky in this section.

 

TC

[terryd 8,400]

if your a tad slow like me they can have a right old nibble on the nets and 6z or 4z won't matter. There is a cracking post on here for repairing them. It is just some thing you have too do.

I spent a fair old time making this net and with in 2 or 3 trips it looked like it had been attacked with a strimmer But better to have hole and rabbits than no holes and no rabbits

 

 

Edited May 1, 2015 by terryd

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

 

reading through the forum i thought 6z would be the best suit me,would 4z be to much trouble for a beginner?plus id say the 6Z would last alot longer and catch just as good,im thinking rabbits would wreck the 4z at night.do the fuckers eat the nets often when their not in the net long,how many years would u get out of a longnet before i have to cut it for stop nets with the holes in it.

Where do I start? There is a lot of misinformation bandied about on forums by people who have never set a net at night. Unfortunately people who know no better believe what they read. Will 6z catch rabbits? Answer yes. Will 6z catch as many rabbits as 4z? Never as long as you have a hole in your ar$e.

 

I have a 4z net here that is over 30 years old and it has some patches in it, does it still catch rabbits? Hell yes. Just remember a rabbit can chew through a 6z net just as fast as a 4z. As for cutting up a net learn how to mend them there is a tutorial as a sticky in this section.

 

TC

 

 

@Tiercel....

 

You are correct about the 4z long nets....

 

A worried chap once said to me,..."Them lightweight nets are no good Phil,. they just tangle up'.....

 

Exactly..... that is what they are supposed to fecking do,...

 

Once them shushis are in,.they are in.....

 

Edited May 1, 2015 by Phil Lloyd

[Fly The Boy 339]

Thanks lads for the information i will get one 50 and two 25 with pins 4z, Tiercel see u have alot of posts with very good knowlege from someone who does alot of longnetting.

[Tiercel 6,986]

Thanks lads for the information i will get one 50 and two 25 with pins 4z, Tiercel see u have alot of posts with very good knowlege from someone who does alot of longnetting.

Your heading in the right direction. I forget how many times I have written this but here goes again.

 

There is and old saying 10 yards in the right place is worth 100 yards in the wrong place.

 

When I started long netting there was no one to show me how to proceed, therefore I made mistakes and quite a lot of them. It took me eight goes to catch my first rabbit. The problem was I was netting ground that I had lamped with a dog and approaching the sets as if I had a dog not a net.

 

Basically the rabbits knew I was there before I got the net out. Then one night I tried a different approach and came in from the down wind side, a detour of a mile and a half walk, I set out 150 yards of net and caught Seven rabbits in 50 yards of the 150 yards of net. That night was a revelation to me, it showed me how important the wind is and the need to do my homework as to what part of the drop the rabbits are actually using.

 

These are things that cannot really be taught by reading a book, as there are so many variants that can affect how rabbits behave. You just have to go and try and work it out for yourself. Every night you go out catch or not, you will learn something even if it is the time the local fox does it's rounds. 30+ years later and I am still learning.

 

TC

Edited May 1, 2015 by tiercel

[NELS0N 457]

I get asked all the time what's best 4 or 6z, i think this is one time in life where the cheaper option is the better one, weighs less and catches more rabbits so its 4z every time for me. A good killing net will always pick up debris. You now have a choice of mesh size, i prefer 4 1/4"

[Tiercel 6,986]

I get asked all the time what's best 4 or 6z, i think this is one time in life where the cheaper option is the better one, weighs less and catches more rabbits so its 4z every time for me. A good killing net will always pick up debris. You now have a choice of mesh size, i prefer 4 1/4"

Les, I prefer the 4.25 for my double stranded polyester nets. But for 4z as it stretches quite a bit I still prefer the 4". But and it is a big but, that is because of the size of the full grown rabbits we have here. Over the years I have noticed a wide difference in the size of the rabbits around the country. Some of the biggest rabbits I have seen have come from the dales, man they are huge compared to ours. Even local to us there is a variation in size, on the coast you have rabbits that are on average half a pound smaller as a full grown rabbit than rabbits from inland.

 

About 6 or 7 years ago I started ferreting in Pembrokeshire, I have never seen such small rabbits, off arable land as well. A fully grown one would struggle to make 2lb, even sand dune rabbits here are bigger and they are small.

 

TC

Edited May 1, 2015 by tiercel

[NELS0N 457]

 

I get asked all the time what's best 4 or 6z, i think this is one time in life where the cheaper option is the better one, weighs less and catches more rabbits so its 4z every time for me. A good killing net will always pick up debris. You now have a choice of mesh size, i prefer 4 1/4"

Les, I prefer the 4.25 for my double stranded polyester nets. But for 4z as it stretches quite a bit I still prefer the 4". But and it is a big but, that is because of the size of the full grown rabbits we have here. Over the years I have noticed a wide difference in the size of the rabbits around the country. Some of the biggest rabbits I have seen have come from the dales, man they are huge compared to ours. Even local to us there is a variation in size, on the coast you have rabbits that are on average half a pound smaller as a full grown rabbit than rabbits from inland.

 

About 6 or 7 years ago I started ferreting in Pembrokeshire, I have never seen such small rabbits, off arable land as well. A fully grown one would struggle to make 2lb, even sand dune rabbits here are bigger and they are small.

 

TC

 

Allan, would that be 20/06 double?? i have a few short 20/06 double stranded engles in 4 1/4" and they kill fine. I'm done with knitting longnets from spun poly, i dont mind the odd stopnet now and again but i like them in 20/09 4 1/2" full mesh with plenty of depth. 15 deep plus the selvage, very good killing nets.

For the price i dont think you can look past good quality 4z sheets. What i do find annoying is clowns trying to punt out 8 and 10z longnets to unsuspecting customers I'm fortunate enough to have permissions all over the country, from north yorkshire and even made the trip down to Penzance last season, the smallest rabbits came from the east riding coast. a lot of my ferreted rabbits last year were caught in the trammels, and i imagine this year will be more of the same. Deadly bits of kit IMO.

Anyway back on topic for night time netting, id agree with TC short nets 25-50 yards is more than enough for a beginner to handle. i was talking to another member on the phone the other day, we both used 50 yard 4z nets on our first solo night time trips.

 

Les

[NELS0N 457]

 

 

reading through the forum i thought 6z would be the best suit me,would 4z be to much trouble for a beginner?plus id say the 6Z would last alot longer and catch just as good,im thinking rabbits would wreck the 4z at night.do the fuckers eat the nets often when their not in the net long,how many years would u get out of a longnet before i have to cut it for stop nets with the holes in it.

Where do I start? There is a lot of misinformation bandied about on forums by people who have never set a net at night. Unfortunately people who know no better believe what they read. Will 6z catch rabbits? Answer yes. Will 6z catch as many rabbits as 4z? Never as long as you have a hole in your ar$e.

 

I have a 4z net here that is over 30 years old and it has some patches in it, does it still catch rabbits? Hell yes. Just remember a rabbit can chew through a 6z net just as fast as a 4z. As for cutting up a net learn how to mend them there is a tutorial as a sticky in this section.

 

TC

 

 

@Tiercel....

 

You are correct about the 4z long nets....

 

A worried chap once said to me,..."Them lightweight nets are no good Phil,. they just tangle up'.....

 

Exactly..... that is what they are supposed to fecking do,...

 

Once them shushis are in,.they are in.....

 

 

Really like this photo Phil