Born Hunter 17,751 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 What is natural about it ?nothing if it was the human race would have died out milleniums ago Not quite true. If homosexuality was the only natural sexuality then yes there is a problem, but it isn't, so no problem. To say it's not natural because otherwise we would have all died out is akin to saying Ebola isn't natural because otherwise we would all have died out. It seems perfectly natural for a proportion of the human species to be homosexual. What determines which sexual behaviour an individual shows is fairly open for debate... But to say it's not natural kinda flies in the face of thousands of years of human history and observations of the 'natural world'. That's without even approaching the subject of if something isn't natural does that make it bad.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 What is natural about it ?nothing if it was the human race would have died out milleniums ago Not quite true. If homosexuality was the only natural sexuality then yes there is a problem, but it isn't, so no problem. To say it's not natural because otherwise we would have all died out is akin to saying Ebola isn't natural because otherwise we would all have died out. It seems perfectly natural for a proportion of the human species to be homosexual. What determines which sexual behaviour an individual shows is fairly open for debate... But to say it's not natural kinda flies in the face of thousands of years of human history and observations of the 'natural world'. That's without even approaching the subject of if something isn't natural does that make it bad.... is it natural though or is it normal or abnormal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not against gay people or a gay couple having the same legal rights as a married hetro couple, but the act of marriage is a union between a man and a woman and should stay that way IMO.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frann 882 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Malt's post sums it up pretty well for me. It doesn't bother me but im old fashioned when it comes to marriage. If that makes behind the times then so be it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) What is natural about it ?nothing if it was the human race would have died out milleniums ago Not quite true. If homosexuality was the only natural sexuality then yes there is a problem, but it isn't, so no problem. To say it's not natural because otherwise we would have all died out is akin to saying Ebola isn't natural because otherwise we would all have died out. It seems perfectly natural for a proportion of the human species to be homosexual. What determines which sexual behaviour an individual shows is fairly open for debate... But to say it's not natural kinda flies in the face of thousands of years of human history and observations of the 'natural world'. That's without even approaching the subject of if something isn't natural does that make it bad.... is it natural though or is it normal or abnormal I would say that it is certainly a natural behaviour, just as natural as heterosexuality. It's not the dominant/majority sexuality though. Normal is such a subjective word. At what point is a minority classed as normal? 1 in 1000? 1/100? 4/10? I also find it difficult to support any argument based on "what's normal". Extreme valour, intelligence or strength isn't normal, that doesn't make it wrong. To argue that something is wrong/bad would need more than "it's not normal" for me to acknowledge it as valid. Edited April 30, 2015 by Born Hunter 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetro 5,349 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 for most of them I don't think it's a reglious thing it's more of a civil right equality thing that they would be reconised the same way in the eyes of the government as a husband and wife is. no one mentioned anything about them adoptioning kids yet. What would yer views on it be. atb j Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 They already have civil right to marridge but are not content with that wanting it deemed acceptable in the eyes of the church. BH you say its normal, at what percentage does a thing become normal in nature? Things adapt in nature in general out of necessity not choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not against gay people or a gay couple having the same legal rights as a married hetro couple, but the act of marriage is a union between a man and a woman and should stay that way IMO.. Instinctively I'm inclined to agree with that Mal. But the definition of marriage you have given is one from religion. I'm not a religious man, but I still choose to follow the cultural traditions of my fundamentally Christian country. Is that wrong? Is wanting to follow my culture's traditions wrong? Traditions like church weddings etc may owe a lot to our religious roots (Christian as well as pagan) but they have become part of our culture, which is about far more than what god you pray to, it's about who we are as a nation. The finer details may be tweaked to suit but the culture remains. If the Gays want to marry, they seem to have as much right as the atheists. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Each to their own I suppose but I've never understood why they want to flaunt it so much. Because they can, that's why. This country is so PC now it makes my blood boil, but notably not PC enough to allow "straight marches" "straight pride" etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,861 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Give me half an hour to get to the shop and back. I want to get some snacks and get comfy - this has the makings of a good old THL ding-donger............ lol it should be interestingatb j. well iam not Irish , but here we go , I think its wrong I am married as you know mate, and we got married in church .The service was very nice and even back then ( 30) years ago the words the vicar said had a meaning I thought, they had my wife crying a lit bit lol. but the message to me from that day, the way I got it was for a (man and woman ) not to men/men or to women/women . I not against queers etc. as you are what you are , whats inside the way you made= the way you tick . but I think its mockery of vows in the church with the for same sex people , not saying they don't love each other ,as they prob do , but the words don't seem as powerful to me , if it was to men/men or to women/women , it just dont sit right with me , if this makes any sense lolalright ray lad.How's you missus doing. On the road to recovery I hope. I understand where you're coming from. It's more of equal rights thing for me than reglious thing. I myself am not reglious in anyway. To each their own. But if they are expected to obey the laws and pay their taxes and all else as well they should be given equal rights as well. atb j thanks mate, think she might be out Saturday , the ways things are going Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,861 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 They can have a little party and call it what they want i couldnt give a shit......but why do they need recognised law and legislation ?.......I,ll tell you why......to force society into giving them their blessing and approval thats why ! yep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jetro 5,349 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Give me half an hour to get to the shop and back. I want to get some snacks and get comfy - this has the makings of a good old THL ding-donger............ lol it should be interestingatb j. well iam not Irish , but here we go , I think its wrong I am married as you know mate, and we got married in church .The service was very nice and even back then ( 30) years ago the words the vicar said had a meaning I thought, they had my wife crying a lit bit lol. but the message to me from that day, the way I got it was for a (man and woman ) not to men/men or to women/women . I not against queers etc. as you are what you are , whats inside the way you made= the way you tick . but I think its mockery of vows in the church with the for same sex people , not saying they don't love each other ,as they prob do , but the words don't seem as powerful to me , if it was to men/men or to women/women , it just dont sit right with me , if this makes any sense lolalright ray lad.How's you missus doing. On the road to recovery I hope. I understand where you're coming from. It's more of equal rights thing for me than reglious thing. I myself am not reglious in anyway. To each their own. But if they are expected to obey the laws and pay their taxes and all else as well they should be given equal rights as well. atb j thanks mate, think she might be out Saturday , the ways things are going that's great news ray.Once she's home she will recover a lot faster. atb j. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wullz 408 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Watch till the end :- 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 clearly a mental disorder that should be discouraged, there is way too much queer propaganda on tv showing it, blokes fancy blokes but they all look and act feminine? same goes for big bull dyke rugby lesbos who fancy women who look and act like blokes? can't stop them doing what they want behind closed doors but our society is so degenerate now they are praised for marrying and are actually allowed to have kids. the worst part is people are so apathetic they don't care. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 if i fell in love with a woman and wanted to spend the rest of my life with her i would already be making a pledge, having a ceremony to endorse that is simply an excuse to have a party..... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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