Why Is It Always Blacks Rioting ......

[lanesra 3,994]

Rioting is the language of the ignored.

Or Ignorant !!

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Some of these posters on here think that they could just roll into South Central and as long as they were "sound" they'd be welcome ...nonsense

 

The U.S. ain't like that lads, I've been to some horrid places in my life but Crenshaw on a Friday noght was up there with the worst and that was just in a taxi....

 

Look at those two British lads in Miami a couple of years ago, thinking they were fly to go get some beak from the hood...the uk isn't that rough, over there it's a different ball game..

 

I've driven through Crenshaw a few times! Night time is by far the worst and you're absolutely right about rough!

 

We fuel up in Anaheim and refuel again on the way out. There's no way we're stopping anywhere around there, and we're all carrying!

 

There's a standing joke, over here, that streets named Martin Luther King Jnr are some of the most violent places in the US!

 

Going to the point of this thread... Freddie Gray was killed in police custody. He was arrested for possessing a switchblade, which was found after his arrest. His treatment, at the hands of police, was disgusting. He was alive, going into the van, but the 30 minute 'rough ride' severed % of his spine, at his neck, and he was refused medical attention on several occasions.

 

A rough ride (or nickel ride) is where the police deliberately throw a suspect around the back of the van. We all know about them! He was cuffed, hands and feet, but not buckled in. They spent half an hour driving around with him bouncing around the back of the van, deliberately attempting to injure him. The van is alleged to have stopped several times and police officers opened it to deal with Gray. At the end of the journey he went into a coma and died a week later. The video of the arrest is on YouTube and even though the police deny it, there is speculation that they broke his legs before they put him in the van.

 

Eric Garner was filmed being choked to death by NYPD. Video is on YouTube.

Michael Brown was shot dead by Ferguson PD (Missouri)

Walter L Scott was shot dead while fleeing North Charleston PD. QB posted the YouTube video, of that one, earlier in the thread.

 

That's just the last three high profile cases. In all of them the police forces have witheld information regarding the incidents. The Gray arrest shows massive gaps in what the police are saying and what witnesses are claiming to the contrary.

 

It doesn't excuse rioting and looting but if British police were conducting similar shenanigans, could we honestly say the same wouldn't happen here? The riots in 2011 were sparked by Duggan's death at the hands of police marksmen. How many times would it take kids to be killed, by police, in your neck of the woods before public anger was enough to go out and vent it? Even the lads on here, that have had regular dealings with the local constabulary can be pretty safe knowing that a ride in the van isn't going to be your last.

 

If you're being a dick and you get the heavy hand, then it's your own fault. But to be killed, for their own amusement, is pretty f****d up. Again, I'm not excusing the rioting, by a long shot. But to say it's because they're black, and stupid, is f***ing ridiculous. Regardless of the kid's skin colour, his arrest record, and the neighbourhood he lives in. He deserved better.

[dare 1,103]

Sounds like a sensible post chris . I just think those looting and stuff are opportunists. I dont understand the idea behind destroying the area where you live, or other peoples for that matter. I know the london riots were just opportunists, i know people who couldnt give a shit about who died. They already have nice things and arent flat out skint but still went and robbed stuff. I understand people being angry I just dont understand the way they choose to behave and vent the anger.

 

Also if anything the noise the black community do seem to make is some what inspiring. I dont like the whole crap of us and them. I wouldnt want communities to become divided. For example I think the lee rigby case shouldnt of had more noise based on the fact his white and only made by white people. I just think if lee rigby was black and two whites killed him we would of heard alot more noise. Overall I think everyone who lives here should of made mps step up and do alot more. Where I will say i would expect a white community "riot" would be when young white girls were being targeted by peado scum.

 

I guess things havent changed alot since my dads youth when this song came out...

 

[tandors 888]

how many blacks (and whites) have been killed by other whites since this latest police killing and why don't they protest that?

[tandors 888]

other blacks lol

[marshman 7,758]

Heard a news report that the only things left in the shops after all the looting are sun cream and Father's Day cards .

[lurcherman 887 13,285]

http://www.bestgore.com/road-accidents/man-on-hood-tell-female-driver-call-the-police-for-me/

[lurcherman 887 13,285]

^^^^ hahaha

[desertbred 5,490]

a bullet doesnot know the colour of anyones skin but the man behind the gun does

[neems 2,406]

a bullet doesnot know the colour of anyones skin but the man behind the gun does

 

and thank feck for that or the bullets would be scared of the reprecussions of killing a black and avoid it like the plague no matter the context of the discharge.

 

we seen them riot not that long ago because some mexican neighbour hood watch man managed to kill the negroid who had him pinned and was smashing his head against the curb.

 

that man now has to live the rest of his life in protective custody in case one these creatures recognises him.

 

your lot knew how to deal with this problem before it became a problem

[WILF 48,160]

While police absolutely do NOT have the right of judge, jury and executioner there are different ways of looking at things........if someone is fleeing the police then it's obviously for a reason and if they keep going when they know a gun is pointed at them then it's a fair assumption it's something serious.

 

Likewise, if a 300lb dude looks like he may want to argue, your not going to offer him tea and cakes, your going to get as many officers as possible and stick a choke hold on him.

 

No one need to tell me coppers can be c**ts but let face it, they spend their working life dealing with c**ts so it sort of gos with the territory.

 

We grant a few men and women a certain amount of authority to protect us from the dregs of society and they put themselves in harms way every day to do it, they make mistakes.

Unless it's point blank execution then I am afraid we have to give them the benefit of the doubt unless you want to end up with what we have in England which is a load of glorified tax collectors scared of offending any minority !!

[desertbred 5,490]

Armed response should be ex forces at least they are clued up unlike most of the plod riding in the ARV,S biggest mistake ever to arm the ordinary plod on the street it would escalate armed crime 100%

[gnasher16 30,591]

 

 

If you're being a dick and you get the heavy hand, then it's your own fault. But to be killed, for their own amusement, is pretty f****d up. Again, I'm not excusing the rioting, by a long shot. But to say it's because they're black, and stupid, is f***ing ridiculous. Regardless of the kid's skin colour, his arrest record, and the neighbourhood he lives in. He deserved better.

 

While i agree he deserved better the harsh truth is the likelihood of a black man being killed in police custody in America is 6 times more likely than a white man thats a statistical fact that has nothing whatsoever to do with prejudice its just common sense....same as if 6 times as many black people crossed roads as whites there will more than likely be 6 times as many black people get run over and killed than white........its not a difficult mathematical equation.

 

So yes it is because they are black,but not for the " poor oppressed victim " reasons folk try to portray its a lot more simple than that.....its just basic maths !

Edited April 29, 2015 by gnasher16

[ChrisJones 7,975]

While police absolutely do NOT have the right of judge, jury and executioner there are different ways of looking at things........if someone is fleeing the police then it's obviously for a reason and if they keep going when they know a gun is pointed at them then it's a fair assumption it's something serious.

 

Sorry for the lateness, mate! I've been working away!

 

I can agree with that. Officer draws his gun and issues the command. The command is ignored and the situation escalates. The thing is the Scott case was over a broken rear light on his car. Hardly something that warrants even more than fixed penalty, never mind the death penalty!

 

Have a look at the video...

 

 

I'll accept that it starts off with a quick run. The officer alleges that Scott went for his tazer. However he runs and is shot in the back as he's fleeing. Does that punishment honestly fit the crime?

 

Plod over here don't have the right to shoot to kill. They can shoot to stop the threat. A fleeing man is not a threat and therefore doesn't warrant lethal force.

 

To reiterate here he was stopped for a broken rear light.

 

Likewise, if a 300lb dude looks like he may want to argue, your not going to offer him tea and cakes, your going to get as many officers as possible and stick a choke hold on him.

 

Again I agree on principle but let's have a look at the Garner video...

 

 

How many police officers do you count in the video? It's a little shaky and it's kinda jointed but despite a bit of argy bargy the guy wasn't putting up a fight. HIs crime was selling single cigarettes. Hardly warrants the death penalty.

 

The chokehold is actually against the NYPD handbook. They're not allowed to legally use it. They shouldn't have used it. I can see some people rolling their eyes at that but why should they be allowed to break the rules if we can't? They could've legally tazed him. Legally maced him. f**k it, let's choke him to death while someone films it for YouTube.

 

He's screaming "I Can't Breathe" eleven times with his face jammed into the pavement. They didn't even give him medical assistance that could have prevented his death. The NY coroner even called it a "homicide"

 

To reiterate here he was choked to death for selling loose cigarettes. Hardly a capital offense.

 

No one need to tell me coppers can be c**ts but let face it, they spend their working life dealing with c**ts so it sort of gos with the territory.

 

We grant a few men and women a certain amount of authority to protect us from the dregs of society and they put themselves in harms way every day to do it, they make mistakes.

Unless it's point blank execution then I am afraid we have to give them the benefit of the doubt unless you want to end up with what we have in England which is a load of glorified tax collectors scared of offending any minority !!

 

Again I can totally agree with that. They're in an incredibly stressful environment dealing with the very literal dregs of humanity. They walk some of the hardest beats on the planet and it's bound to impact on their judgement. I get that! I accept that and I kinda liken it to a form of PTSD. It must be incredibly frustrating to see career criminals back out on the streets, from revolving door prisons. I can fully understand how they can feel jaded and pissed off.

 

But it doesn't give them a right to kill people with impunity. They are here to arrest and detain. Guilt and innocence is decided by the judicial system.

 

If anything they should be held to higher standard because of the authority we entrust them with. In the Scott video, above, it's pretty close to a point blank execution!

 

Back to the Freddie Gray case. I don't believe the police intended to kill him. Not one bit.

 

They did intend to shake him up a bit, because why not? He's probably going to get a slap on the wrists and be back out on the streets in an hour!

 

But they f****d up and killed him instead. 6 police officers have been charged with a range of offences. The driver of the van has been charged with his murder. The others ranging from manslaughter to misconduct in office.

 

Again I accept that they have a difficult job to do but I simply cannot accept the outcome of this kid's death in custody.

 

I'd be willing to wager that most people reading this post are doing so from some kind of smart device. In their hand is a high resolution camera, and probably video recorder. It can store massive amounts of pictures and video and is within arms reach 24/7. The common denominator with all of these cases is that most of the footage has been captured with mobile phones. Footage that's been used in evidence, and footage that has upset a community enough to riot in the streets.

 

I've never once condoned the rioting, but I can certainly see why someone would feel pissed off at what they're watching on YouTube when this stuff goes viral. This footage wouldn't be available 10 years ago and the more the issue of brutality is brought up the worse this will get. Anything that holds people accountable for their shenanigans is a good thing for me. Film these people. Expose their nonsense and they can suffer the consequences. Simply carrying a badge doesn't give you the right to be twat.

 

[ChrisJones 7,975]

While i agree he deserved better the harsh truth is the likelihood of a black man being killed in police custody in America is 6 times more likely than a white man thats a statistical fact that has nothing whatsoever to do with prejudice its just common sense....same as if 6 times as many black people crossed roads as whites there will more than likely be 6 times as many black people get run over and killed than white........its not a difficult mathematical equation.

 

So yes it is because they are black,but not for the " poor oppressed victim " reasons folk try to portray its a lot more simple than that.....its just basic maths !

 

Gnash, this Baltimore flare up isn't about race. It never was. It's about police brutality, and treatment in custody.

 

The mayor of Baltimore is black.

 

The chief of police is black.

 

The city's population is predominantly black.

 

The police force is predominantly black, also.

 

I can see your mathematical analogy, and I agree. In a huge predominantly black city, yes, you're going to see more black men incarcerated. The issue isn't the maths it's the analogy itself.

 

Yes they're statistically more like to get run over crossing the road. Only here they also have to contend with the police car driving on the pavement knocking them over before they have the chance to get squished in traffic.

 

This isn't about race. It's about reasonable force.