Stocking Brown Trout

[myersbg 1,385]

I am looking at stocking a Hundred or so Browns in a small tarn that i have permission to fish, it was stocked 5 years ago, and we had some good fishing until the otters cleaned it out, does any body know a good supplier near Cumbria.

 

thanks

 

Brian

[darbo 4,776]

Not Cumbria but not a million miles away good luck. Restocking Fish

Moorland Fisheries, based in the West of Northumberland, supplies the restocking fish for Naworth Fishery and other fisheries in the area. For restocking enquiries please contact the fish farm.

Tel: 07831 862 863 or email: fjgraham@live.com

Moorland Fisheries

[bell 3,603]

Won't they clean it out again mate ?......money down the drain if there's otters about.

[Tiercel 6,986]

I am looking at stocking a Hundred or so Browns in a small tarn that i have permission to fish, it was stocked 5 years ago, and we had some good fishing until the otters cleaned it out, does any body know a good supplier near Cumbria.

 

thanks

 

Brian

It may not necessarily be otters although they will have played a part. A small stream can only provide a certain amount of food, once that food is used up fish either have to move or die. Over stocking can cause problems that had not been previously thought about.

 

Floods play a part as well, the stocked fish will have come from ponds with little or no current when faced with a flooded brook the fish get washed away.

 

TC

Edited April 26, 2015 by tiercel

[clabedoo 59]

It is now generally accepted that stocking harms wild populations - ease off on fishing pressure for a couple of seasons the wildies will come back with a vengeance.

 

Keep stocking and easy caught "dumb" fish is all the sport you will get but if you are happy with that then fine.

 

Most clubs that used to stock are no longer doing so - you can definitely tell the difference when you fish stocked water and wild ones in my opinion.

Stockies tend to jump onto anything put in front of them that even vaguely resembles an insect - nymph or dry. Wild Browns on the other hand require a bit more nouse to catch. If you absolutely must stock then they should be triploids.

[myersbg 1,385]

The tarn is man made and there has never been any wild fish in it and never will be as there is no access for them. I too would rather fish for wild fish, i have fished Windermere for 40 yrs and for a long time you could have said it was possibly the best wild trout water in England, now you are lucky to even see one rise, we used to get fantastic catches of Arctic Char, last season i caught 3 in 5 trips out,no one can say why but the annoying thing is right on the shores of Windermere is the Fresh water biological associations head office and all their so called scientists,but they dont know what to do. SCANDALOUS.

 

Brian

[neil cooney 10,416]

There's a trout stream beside me that has a wild brown trout population but is stocked with fingerling and a few half pounders for a good few years now.

I think this year they've got themselves in trouble for stocking bigger triploids and have been told they're doing more harm than good.

 

On the subject of Otters ?

Otters are no angels and I can understand a carp fishery owner being angry when finding a very expensive fish (that probably has a name like Nora or Tony) lying on the bank with a bite taken out of it but if your trout are disappearing I would be looking elsewhere for the problem.

Here in Ireland we've always had plenty of both and they've always co-existed, the same as they did in Britain before the Otters decimation by pollution.

 

Have you proof by elecro-fishing etc. that the trout have disappeared ?

Just because your not catching them by rod doesn't mean they're not there.

[bunny tickler 876]

the local rivers off the pennines here all contain wild brownies ,big uns too the river in most parts passes through several towns but the brownies seem to be on the increase im pleased to say this one took a rapala as i tried for pike ,i return all the trout

[Tiercel 6,986]

the local rivers off the pennines here all contain wild brownies ,big uns too the river in most parts passes through several towns but the brownies seem to be on the increase im pleased to say this one took a rapala as i tried for pike ,i return all the trout

That is a good trout by anyone's standards.

 

TC

[bunny tickler 876]

 

the local rivers off the pennines here all contain wild brownies ,big uns too the river in most parts passes through several towns but the brownies seem to be on the increase im pleased to say this one took a rapala as i tried for pike ,i return all the trout

That is a good trout by anyone's standards.

 

TC

 

yes all good fish here the ledgering lads get them to 6lbs but thats boring i will be on the fly now waters warming up

[3175darren 1,100]

Do you need tickets/ licences to release brown trout, and I am in Cumbria I recon the goo sander and cormorants are the culprits around me, the otters seem to show up sporadically, as though they are following fish up river, here one minute gone the next,

[myersbg 1,385]

Enviro agency has to check water first to make sure that nothing can escape into other water courses and you have to use a reputable supplier but this is free, i am just on with sorting it all out,it can take up to ten days, i will keep you all informed.

on the other point, there are hundreds of cormorants and gooseander on windermere and they hammer the fish they also are destroying all the trees on the islands with their shite, another big reason for the decline in game fish in windermere is the massive numbers of Roach and Rudd that have accumulated over the years more than likely left by visiting Pike anglers.

 

Brian

[air gun ant 1,666]

I was trolling on ullswater the other week and was surprised to see 20+ cormorants all sat together on a half submerged fence, and several more over the day. probably saw 100+ in the day!

[leegreen 2,180]

If you're going to stock an enclosed water, there is no harm in feeding them. This way you can increase the numbers with less impact on invertebrate life. Problem is if you stock a lot of fish you are opening yourself to thieves, sorry I mean poachers and hungry wildlife.

On the triploid front, the triploid process is meant to only be 90% effective, I think it's less. The environment agency insist on triploid stocking because of interbreeding with wild stocks.

 

Once you have registered your water you are free to get your said species from anywhere, it is now down to the seller to do the necessary paperwork.

Are you wanting to stock fingerlings of edible size fish?

 

Browns are about £4.50/lb at the mo, so can be an expensive experiment.

[3175darren 1,100]

Enviro agency has to check water first to make sure that nothing can escape into other water courses and you have to use a reputable supplier but this is free, i am just on with sorting it all out,it can take up to ten days, i will keep you all informed.on the other point, there are hundreds of cormorants and gooseander on windermere and they hammer the fish they also are destroying all the trees on the islands with their shite, another big reason for the decline in game fish in windermere is the massive numbers of Roach and Rudd that have accumulated over the years more than likely left by visiting Pike anglers.Brian

brian is that even if you stock native species as in brown trout??