Interesting Find This Season...

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

You will no doubt know that blue gums meant oxygen starvation at some point ,sorry for your loss though mate .

[smasher 1,055]

pitty about the bitch a real nice type,but always a hazard entering a dog to to ground this time of year,one cold day dont cancel out a week of warm weather,the ground acts like a storage heater and holds the heat,in warmer weather we always favoured the earths in shaded areas like in woods etc.maybe not the case here, but something maybe for others to consider when entering a dog this time of year

[taz2010 1,297]

it happens fireman last year lost 2 dogs in a drain,wasnt even hunting just had dogs out for a walk,one minute all three were there next there gone,weird on as when i located them we were just about to break through charlie bolts from drain where dogs went in,break through 2 dogs dead but lead dog still alive so could not understand how charlie got past them as drain and 2 back dogs dead weird

[fireman 10,934]

It does happen Taz and i'm at total peace with myself it wasn't down to a foolish mistake from me,

[Truther 1,579]

Sorry for your loss Fireman, been in the same boat a few times myself mate, sickener.

 

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I wouldn't totally discount gas? Not sure about gas release in Norfolk? but coalfield areas are dodgy, could be same with peaty ground? Some years back two teenage lads were rabbiting and their dog chased a rabbit into the foundations of an old building near a pit, one lad went in to get the dog and didn't come out, his mate told a bloke who was walking his dog and he went in to look for the young lad, the gas killed the bloke and the boy. Not many give gas much thought but that could be a big mistake.

[leethedog 3,071]

You can discount any gas mate as you would be first to know about it on breakthrough .Did you examine dog at all ,what colour were the gums .Sorry to be insensitive but was you who brought this to our attention .IMO your dog died from heart attack due to heat exhaustion.RIP Russell.Hazard of working a dog this time of year .

carbonmonoxide has no smell qnd the amount needed to kill a dog or fox would not be noticed on break through as a subterranean worker we are very aware of how fast gas can kill and travel

[pablo esc 1,598]

How does carbon monoxide stay in the ground for so long and won't it release itself? I used to hear about big sand banks holding it, through when gas had been put through, rabbits years and years back. Wouldn't you know if you' knew the burrow unless it was huge, dangerous. Maybe it's the area or your dog excited or wrongttime of year. Rip j Russell,

[pablo esc 1,598]

How does carbon monoxide stay in the ground for so long and won't it release itself? I used to hear about big sand banks holding it, through when gas had been put through, rabbits years and years back. Wouldn't you know if you' knew the burrow unless it was huge, dangerous. Maybe it's the area or your dog excited or wrongttime of year. Rip j Russell,

[pablo esc 1,598]

How does carbon monoxide stay in the ground for so long and won't it release itself? I used to hear about big sand banks holding it, through when gas had been put through, rabbits years and years back. Wouldn't you know if you' knew the burrow unless it was huge, dangerous. Maybe it's the area or your dog excited or wrongttime of year. Rip j Russell,

[leethedog 3,071]

Carbonmonoxide is slightly lighter than air and will form pockets in the higher parts of earth eventually but will linger and not brake down

[pablo esc 1,598]

Would it be in any part of the earth, like not deep below or up the bank? What on flat places, the same? Or is up higher as you said, atb. Would in the past, some must have come through that and not known it was there?

[leethedog 3,071]

Could be anywhere in earth in a tunnel situation like where I work gas tests for carbonmonoxide are taken at every level ground mid and crown of tunnel and is found at all levels

[fat man 4,741]

FM,did your bitch kill the fox or did it die itself,sounds like it was a lack of air imo.Few year ago my mate and another chap were oiut and dug to a young dog but on the break through both quarry and dog moved on a bit.They got another mark on the dog and started to dig but this time the dog went silent and when they broke in the 2nd time both dog and quarry were dead even though they had opened up a couple of yds behind them earlier and there seemed to be plenty of air geting through,the hazzards of terrier work,at least your bitch died doing what she was bred for.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Had similar mate but put it down to dog being in very tight ,quarry too.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

Had it happen twice to me and it isn't nice, the simple fact is there was a lack of air for both and that's part and parcel of the game we're in unfortunately. Chin up and carry on.