trenchfoot 4,243 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 saw this today, I wonder who will come out on top https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeenshire/549290/keepers-issue-challenge-mountain-hare-numbers/ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad4it 695 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 my money on the gamekeepers, they been doing it for years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ftm 3,357 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 no brainer -keepers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 This sort of thing should be publicised and pushed more. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,777 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Do you think any of the various groups would take up the offer?? ...not a chance , it would show them up for what they are ANTIS ... they wouldn't want a little thing like the truth to spoil there pitch .. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
air gun ant 1,666 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 That's awesome! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,926 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Recon that moneys safe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Would love to know what reactor they get from these groups. Put up or shut up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abarrett 462 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 keepers all day long You know what a keeper is like with his hard earned Tighter than security in the Liverpool branch of currys 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,473 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) There's a hell of a lot more sheep and deer than mountain hares.The birds will pick up far more ticks from these sources than they will from hares. Is there any evidence that culling hares leads to lower numbers of ticks on grouse? Killing mountain hares affects the whole ecosystem and many other animals have their survival put at risk. Grouse moors are, in my opinion ecological disasters, with every potential grouse predator wiped out by over zealous keepers.These moors are barren wastelands which hold predominantly grouse and nothing else. Grouse moor owners have manipulated the law so that it is illegal to let a dog roam freely even when there's no livestock for miles. I've had grouse moor keepers threaten to shoot my dogs. I've had several arguments with cap doffing keepers with what they think are macho threats. The moors belong to me as much as the toffs. I've every right to roam on them with a dog. I might not have the legal right, but I've got the moral right. Grouse moors only serve the toffs. Save the hares, save the raptors-golden eagles in particular. Edited April 17, 2015 by jukel123 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 There's a hell of a lot more sheep and deer than mountain hares.The birds will pick up far more ticks from these sources than they will from hares. Is there any evidence that culling hares leads to lower numbers of ticks on grouse? Killing mountain hares affects the whole ecosystem and many other animals have their survival put at risk. Grouse moors are, in my opinion ecological disasters, with every potential grouse predator wiped out by over zealous keepers.These moors are barren wastelands which hold predominantly grouse and nothing else. Grouse moor owners have manipulated the law so that it is illegal to let a dog roam freely even when there's no livestock for miles. I've had grouse moor keepers threaten to shoot my dogs. I've had several arguments with cap doffing keepers with what they think are macho threats. The moors belong to me as much as the toffs. I've every right to roam on them with a dog. I might not have the legal right, but I've got the moral right. Grouse moors only serve the toffs. Save the hares, save the raptors-golden eagles in particular. Thumbs up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Grouse moors are, in my opinion ecological disasters, with every potential grouse predator wiped out by over zealous keepers.These moors are barren wastelands which hold predominantly grouse and nothing else. Well if that's true and not just an inverted snobbery induced rant because you let your dog play hell with another man's livelihood then there's an easy thousand quid for you to collect. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 f**k me i could have a birthday on this one.............better not. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIK 4,763 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 This has happened in my area and know the gentlemen that pushed for this ....we have been on the hill twice a week with the hounds on these grouse moores and honestly I have never seen so many hares on the tops ...not hundreds but thousands of hares they really are thriving Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIK 4,763 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 There's a hell of a lot more sheep and deer than mountain hares.The birds will pick up far more ticks from these sources than they will from hares. Is there any evidence that culling hares leads to lower numbers of ticks on grouse? Killing mountain hares affects the whole ecosystem and many other animals have their survival put at risk. Grouse moors are, in my opinion ecological disasters, with every potential grouse predator wiped out by over zealous keepers.These moors are barren wastelands which hold predominantly grouse and nothing else. Grouse moor owners have manipulated the law so that it is illegal to let a dog roam freely even when there's no livestock for miles. I've had grouse moor keepers threaten to shoot my dogs. I've had several arguments with cap doffing keepers with what they think are macho threats. The moors belong to me as much as the toffs. I've every right to roam on them with a dog. I might not have the legal right, but I've got the moral right. Grouse moors only serve the toffs. Save the hares, save the raptors-golden eagles in particular. you sound like Nicola Sturgeon you bell end I bet you hunt in a shell suit and reebok classics ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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