will_cox 0 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Have see some people using these snipercan nv. What's the range on these nv? Cost etc? Or is there some thing better on the market under £1000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wildling 520 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 These days there are far better devices available than add on's like the Snipercam or NiteSite, I'm personally waiting for the release of the new Yukon Photon XT 6.5x50 that should be coming out in May. I've added a link below to a good UK site to have a look at that has good information and reviews on all night vision related subjects. http://www.nightvisionforumuk.com/index.php?sid=fde8a50931d9d88e627692b7000307b6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wildling 520 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Here's a link giving more information for the new Yukon Photon XT 6.5x50. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/store/night-vision/yukon-photon-xt-6-5x50-night-vision-scope.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchey 147 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Being objjective, the Snipercam is a good unit, its bulky and not easy to walk around with a rifle slung on your back with but it does work and works well. I've head shot rabbits out to just under 200yds with one and a t50 torch. The nightvisionuk website folks do some really good stuff, generally better in shooting terms than the manufacturers (IMHO) However, there are downsides, you need to be prepared to compromise with an add-on. Great if you shoot daytime and then at night but not really for a dedicated night scope. Best with a tubed digital like the pulsar, yukon, drone pro etc but these are all over £1k new I'd avoid anything by ATN as they don't get much in the way of raving reviews although some are happy with their efforts. It all depends what you want from it. There's also the Wardy WD 700 or the NiteTec Nt300 add-ons that work well. I had a Snipercam and it worked well but didn't suit what i need from my dedicated rifle. I'm trying to be objective based on my own experiences with some mentioned and some that i've only looked through. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wildling 520 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Best with a tubed digital like the pulsar, yukon, drone pro etc but these are all over £1k new Not all are priced over £1k new.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wildling 520 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I had a Snipercam and it worked well but didn't suit what i need from my dedicated rifle. Just out of interest what was it that drew you towards this unit as at the time these were receiving a lot of flack online? I tried one out myself at a demonstration but couldn't get on with the need to ether add a stock extender or mount the scope further forward in order to use it properly. Kind of defeated the idea of a add-on to me. The Nite-Site idea I liked but it was so bulky and a pain setting up with wires tending to get in the way at important moments, very annoying. I've found that with most add-on's you are best of setting up in a static position rather than trying to stalk due to the worry of knocking the things out of position and also the weight issues. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchey 147 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Best with a tubed digital like the pulsar, yukon, drone pro etc but these are all over £1k new Not all are priced over £1k new.............. Not seen one thats NEW for less than that (other than the photons) unless they aren't as good spec as the others.Happy to be shown more that are cheaper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchey 147 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I had a Snipercam and it worked well but didn't suit what i need from my dedicated rifle. Just out of interest what was it that drew you towards this unit as at the time these were receiving a lot of flack online? I tried one out myself at a demonstration but couldn't get on with the need to ether add a stock extender or mount the scope further forward in order to use it properly. Kind of defeated the idea of a add-on to me. The Nite-Site idea I liked but it was so bulky and a pain setting up with wires tending to get in the way at important moments, very annoying. I've found that with most add-on's you are best of setting up in a static position rather than trying to stalk due to the worry of knocking the things out of position and also the weight issues. I wanted something that i could search with and immediately go to shoot on without swapping from monocular to scope. Didn't want to spend the earth and I'd already built my own NV setup that involved wires and a screen. The snipercam didn't have wires, the screen doesn't light you up like a lighthouse (i had to use red filter paper on my own NV to reduce the glare). Snipercam was great for static position for searching, took a little playing with the zoom and focus but i got used to that. I tried walking around with it on the scope and it was heavier after a while in the arms round half the golf course. Forget putting the rifle on your back, it just knocks around and i didn't fancy taking a shot with it after it bounced around on my back. Eye relief wasn't much of a problem whilst static on a bipod or rest etc but on high sticks or freehand it did push my eye relief a fair bit further back. The Wardy one is smaller (i think the smallest eye relief overall but couldn't swear to that) and has a smaller eye piece/viewer. Nite site stuff with their wires hanging around is just so old style now and the difference between their units is only the amount of the IR's in the unit! Not much for such a price hike considering a £40 T50 will be better. The Archers are pricey but apparently very good and just sort of clip on the end of the scope attachment. I think that it won't be long before the home build folks do a much better one than the big boys, it'll just be producing numbers and all the corporate stuff that will get in their way. Exciting times ahead for us customers i hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wildling 520 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I had a Snipercam and it worked well but didn't suit what i need from my dedicated rifle. Just out of interest what was it that drew you towards this unit as at the time these were receiving a lot of flack online? I tried one out myself at a demonstration but couldn't get on with the need to ether add a stock extender or mount the scope further forward in order to use it properly. Kind of defeated the idea of a add-on to me. The Nite-Site idea I liked but it was so bulky and a pain setting up with wires tending to get in the way at important moments, very annoying. I've found that with most add-on's you are best of setting up in a static position rather than trying to stalk due to the worry of knocking the things out of position and also the weight issues. I wanted something that i could search with and immediately go to shoot on without swapping from monocular to scope. Didn't want to spend the earth and I'd already built my own NV setup that involved wires and a screen. The snipercam didn't have wires, the screen doesn't light you up like a lighthouse (i had to use red filter paper on my own NV to reduce the glare). Snipercam was great for static position for searching, took a little playing with the zoom and focus but i got used to that. I tried walking around with it on the scope and it was heavier after a while in the arms round half the golf course. Forget putting the rifle on your back, it just knocks around and i didn't fancy taking a shot with it after it bounced around on my back. Eye relief wasn't much of a problem whilst static on a bipod or rest etc but on high sticks or freehand it did push my eye relief a fair bit further back. The Wardy one is smaller (i think the smallest eye relief overall but couldn't swear to that) and has a smaller eye piece/viewer. Nite site stuff with their wires hanging around is just so old style now and the difference between their units is only the amount of the IR's in the unit! Not much for such a price hike considering a £40 T50 will be better. The Archers are pricey but apparently very good and just sort of clip on the end of the scope attachment. I think that it won't be long before the home build folks do a much better one than the big boys, it'll just be producing numbers and all the corporate stuff that will get in their way. Exciting times ahead for us customers i hope. Front mounted would be the ideal route to go for add-on's if only the didn't suffer with point of aim shifts and parallax issues, mind you they way the night vision would is progressing these days I'd say it won't be long until a decent unit comes out thats worked out all the kinks. Until then if its just for air rifle or rimfire use you'd not go to far wrong spending £450 on a Yukon Photon IMOP. Who'd of thought that one day you'd be able to buy a dedicated tubed night vision scope for less than £500, amazing! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tremo 138 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I had a Snipercam and it worked well but didn't suit what i need from my dedicated rifle. Just out of interest what was it that drew you towards this unit as at the time these were receiving a lot of flack online? I tried one out myself at a demonstration but couldn't get on with the need to ether add a stock extender or mount the scope further forward in order to use it properly. Kind of defeated the idea of a add-on to me. The Nite-Site idea I liked but it was so bulky and a pain setting up with wires tending to get in the way at important moments, very annoying. I've found that with most add-on's you are best of setting up in a static position rather than trying to stalk due to the worry of knocking the things out of position and also the weight issues. I wanted something that i could search with and immediately go to shoot on without swapping from monocular to scope. Didn't want to spend the earth and I'd already built my own NV setup that involved wires and a screen. The snipercam didn't have wires, the screen doesn't light you up like a lighthouse (i had to use red filter paper on my own NV to reduce the glare). Snipercam was great for static position for searching, took a little playing with the zoom and focus but i got used to that. I tried walking around with it on the scope and it was heavier after a while in the arms round half the golf course. Forget putting the rifle on your back, it just knocks around and i didn't fancy taking a shot with it after it bounced around on my back. Eye relief wasn't much of a problem whilst static on a bipod or rest etc but on high sticks or freehand it did push my eye relief a fair bit further back. The Wardy one is smaller (i think the smallest eye relief overall but couldn't swear to that) and has a smaller eye piece/viewer. Nite site stuff with their wires hanging around is just so old style now and the difference between their units is only the amount of the IR's in the unit! Not much for such a price hike considering a £40 T50 will be better. The Archers are pricey but apparently very good and just sort of clip on the end of the scope attachment. I think that it won't be long before the home build folks do a much better one than the big boys, it'll just be producing numbers and all the corporate stuff that will get in their way. Exciting times ahead for us customers i hope. Front mounted would be the ideal route to go for add-on's if only the didn't suffer with point of aim shifts and parallax issues, mind you they way the night vision would is progressing these days I'd say it won't be long until a decent unit comes out thats worked out all the kinks. Until then if its just for air rifle or rimfire use you'd not go to far wrong spending £450 on a Yukon Photon IMOP. Who'd of thought that one day you'd be able to buy a dedicated tubed night vision scope for less than £500, amazing! +1. The Photon is ideal for air rifles and rimfires. I believe that the new ones due out soon are going to retail for about £420. Happy days! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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