Patterdale keeps running off!

[Malt 379]

Another new to the job know it all............we have all been there

 

Who's new to the job?

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 13, 2008 by oneredtrim

[harrycatcat 31]

I think people are taking the advise too litraly.

They dont mean beat it up with a baseball bat they mean control the unrully fecker perhaps rag it at the back of the neck like its mother would do, rolled up newspaper and shout like feck so it knows who is the boss by the tone in your voice.

Once its learned it will be a better more content dog cos it knows its place in the "pack".

In my opinion unrully dogs are the fault of the owners and unrully kids are the fault of their parents.

 

So feck off all you "do gooders" I say go hug a tree.

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 13, 2008 by oneredtrim

[paddy.t 5]

Got a 11mth old Patterdale, he is an awsome dog but obviously full of energy like any other patt.

 

He recalls in the home and garden (eventually), but over the last few weeks he has started running off at night through the woods behind the house, probably because of the squirrels/rabbits etc... and the little sh1te will not come back for love nor money or markies! well not until he is ready anyway.

 

I always use the comand 'here boy' to recall and treat and praise him when he returns, trouble is he aint really fussed with treats no matter what i give him, especially when there's vermin to chase. so how do establish that when i call i want him there imediately!? the same with when he runs off to play with otherdogs etc.

 

hows about building the dog a kennel? that would stop him running away

 

paddy

[stealth 0]

Got a 11mth old Patterdale, he is an awsome dog but obviously full of energy like any other patt.

 

He recalls in the home and garden (eventually), but over the last few weeks he has started running off at night through the woods behind the house, probably because of the squirrels/rabbits etc... and the little sh1te will not come back for love nor money or markies! well not until he is ready anyway.

 

I always use the comand 'here boy' to recall and treat and praise him when he returns, trouble is he aint really fussed with treats no matter what i give him, especially when there's vermin to chase. so how do establish that when i call i want him there imediately!? the same with when he runs off to play with otherdogs etc.

 

hows about building the dog a kennel? that would stop him running away

 

paddy

 

 

Only if it had a door!

 

But what im i gonna do when he needs a p155?

[Guest WILF]

 

 

Edited November 20, 2007 by WILF

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Nice one!

 

or I could take him to the pet shop and swap him for a hamster!?

 

dont believe my only options are to smack him or lock him up!

[skycat 6,174]

dont believe my only options are to smack him or lock him up!

 

Do I take it that your garden is unfenced? Cos if mine were and I let my terriers out for a leak last thing at night they'd be sure to want to go off hunting. Yes, the older ones would stay with me if I told them, but at 11 months old (think teenager) all they want to do is GO! Just like kids: get out from under that parental (or in this case: your..) control.

 

Wouldn't removing the initial temptation to go off be a far better thing to do in the first place? Or if you can't fence in all the garden at least make a pen in part of it so you can put him in there. Less stress for you, and then when you do want to take him out for exercise he won't be full of all those memories of disobeying you at night when he buggers off.

 

More to the point, all your calling without being able to re enforce the command only engrains in his head that he CAN disobey you without any repercussions.

 

Get the training done in a situation where you can control him, and still be prepared to be the big bad boss dog from time to time until he learns that you really are the leader, and not him. If you get this problem nailed within the next few months he will grow out of it unless he is one of life's total independants who couldn't give a flying shit about anything else except where his nose leads him.!

[Guest rio]

keep him on the lead then

 

maybe a patterdale is the wrong type of dog for you

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 13, 2008 by oneredtrim

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dont believe my only options are to smack him or lock him up!

Do I take it that your garden is unfenced? Cos if mine were and I let my terriers out for a leak last thing at night they'd be sure to want to go off hunting. Yes, the older ones would stay with me if I told them, but at 11 months old (think teenager) all they want to do is GO! Just like kids: get out from under that parental (or in this case: your..) control.

 

Wouldn't removing the initial temptation to go off be a far better thing to do in the first place? Or if you can't fence in all the garden at least make a pen in part of it so you can put him in there. Less stress for you, and then when you do want to take him out for exercise he won't be full of all those memories of disobeying you at night when he buggers off.

 

More to the point, all your calling without being able to re enforce the command only engrains in his head that he CAN disobey you without any repercussions.

 

Get the training done in a situation where you can control him, and still be prepared to be the big bad boss dog from time to time until he learns that you really are the leader, and not him. If you get this problem nailed within the next few months he will grow out of it unless he is one of life's total independants who couldn't give a flying shit about anything else except where his nose leads him.!

 

 

Cheers matey, some good advice! (AT LAST)

 

he is booked in for some training this saturday with an ex army trainer, and he has been getting alot better recently, me and the missis' have been playing a game where we both stand either ends of the house both out of site and calling him, he seems to love it he comes a running everytime doing that and we have been rewarding him with a combination of bits of cheese and some rough play! (as was sudgested by someone else on this thread)

 

he comes back 7 out of 10 times i would say now but just not to heel only close then jus looks at me like what more do you want?

 

keep him on the lead then tongue2.gif

 

maybe a patterdale is the wrong type of dog for you angel.gif

 

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As for a patterdale being the wrong dog for me! i dont think so i love getting him running, playing, chasing bunnies and play fighting with him, my mrs mom and dad had a patterdale and he was an awsome dog too, he always recalled and never wandered off, so i dont belive this in impossible for mine, maybe you just need to try harder with your own!

[scaramanga 0]

Hi stealth, certainly dont give up enforcing the recall, I have 2 patterdales one is 10 years old now and she came from the Coniston hunt , she was an absoloute fecker until she was about 2 years old , eventually she calmed down and became a joy to own , ratting, rabbiting, rough shooting pheasants only thing she's never done is face a fox, I can call her off absoloutely anything even if she's in full flight on it.

I bought a pup from Brain Nuttal this March and its back to square one, right little tw@t it is comes back when it pleases but it is now starting to get there, the worst thing I always found was going ratting with a pack you might as well burn the whistle, but to be honest it does'nt have the intelligence of the older dog even though its early days yet, keep getting on top of it you will get there.

[stealth 0]

Hi stealth, certainly dont give up enforcing the recall, I have 2 patterdales one is 10 years old now and she came from the Coniston hunt , she was an absoloute fecker until she was about 2 years old , eventually she calmed down and became a joy to own , ratting, rabbiting, rough shooting pheasants only thing she's never done is face a fox, I can call her off absoloutely anything even if she's in full flight on it.

I bought a pup from Brain Nuttal this March and its back to square one, right little tw@t it is comes back when it pleases but it is now starting to get there, the worst thing I always found was going ratting with a pack you might as well burn the whistle, but to be honest it does'nt have the intelligence of the older dog even though its early days yet, keep getting on top of it you will get there.

 

 

Im lucky really he always comes back, normally when i actually stop calling!

 

when im out walking he is mostly off the lead and he always stays close, if he goes to far ahead he stops to make sure im coming and if he see other dogs and i keep walking he follows, its jus getting the little fecker to come when i call!

 

im sure its just a case of time and effort, he will get there!

[outshooting 0]

So many people so many ideas, why do people always say "its the dog " F*ck that sh*ite people need to look at them self the dog is only as good as its handler i have two terriers, never on the lead,never run off,dont f*ckin yap all the time & do as they are told, i have never hit them or shouted at them one whistle & they are at my side & my method is Dont listen to the Sh*t that some(not all)people talk about on here, to many people get the dog thinking great i have a hunter but they know nothing about the bread, read up about the bread & how the bread should be trained before you get the dog.

 

& thats the end of my rant