YOKEL 2,297 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 if your doing any type of exercise/training with a pup/young dog, ALWAYS stop when they're still eager to continue. easy to sicken a young un by pushing it to hard to often... Yokel 1 Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 The reason I used the flirt pole was not for fitness but to get my pup interested in things that move as she won't chase anything 1 Quote Link to post
YOKEL 2,297 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Same rule applys fella, little at a time, always make sure their enjoying it, and alway leave them begging for more....another tip re: the flirt pole, let them have a catch and rag of the lure at the end of the session...j.m.o.. Yokel 2 Quote Link to post
terryd 8,687 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 Well a mate of mine advised one for a bit of exercise so I gave the dog a treat tonight and it was great fun. The dog was taking a run up and going air born and loved it. Used 10 feet of alkathene pipe with 20 feet of rope through it and a bungee tied in it for a bit of give. Tied an old rag on the end job done. Threw in some wait and drop commands Used it on some nice long grass 3 Quote Link to post
terryd 8,687 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Little clip of tonight's action I can start to get him a bit more controlled as we go on 5 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Little clip of tonight's action I can start to get him a bit more controlled as we go on Spot on. You have him. He will only get better. TC Quote Link to post
terryd 8,687 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Little clip of tonight's action I can start to get him a bit more controlled as we go on Spot on. You have him. He will only get better. TC He heeled all the way out there on and off lead then a treat with the pole and heeled back to the car park apart from a slight incident with a springer spaniel lol. But we have certainly turned a corner since sunday 2 Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,535 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Got to be honest i cant see the use of a flirt pole with running dogs for anything other than a bit of fun.......flirt pole is not a conditioning tool your not going to get lung power from it they are just a way of bringing up a dogs reflexes and sharpness thats all. Edited April 22, 2015 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post
terryd 8,687 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 in this instance it is just to give the dog a treat and some exercise with out him running free to much at the moment. Not for any particular lurcher purposes Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,535 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Got to be honest i cant see the use of a flirt pole with running dogs for anything other than a bit of fun.......flirt pole is not a conditioning tool your not going to get lung power from it they are just a way of bringing up a dogs reactions and sharpness thats all. Guy int pub said they help rabbiting dogs improve there strike, turning and like you said its good fun and keeps dogs ticking over, not essential but usefull Id tell him to f**k off and make his own account ! Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,535 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Id swerve him as soon as he walked in the gaff he,d drive me f****n mad cant he play dominoes Re flirt pole.....using a great big long 12 foot pole is defeating the object the idea shouldnt be to chase the lure....the dog shouldnt really even be getting tired as its not a fitness exercise......we used to use a short little 6 foot pole and have complete control of it never allowing the dog to get into a run but constantly turning,shifting weight etc.... letting the dog get a bite maybe once every 2 or 3 sessions......if the dog doesnt maintain seriously high desire to get it he wont get the full benefit from it anyway as a training tool. 1 Quote Link to post
terryd 8,687 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 I see what you saying there gnasher but I find the longer pole better as it allows me to keep the dog out and have a longer run at it. If I had a short pole and him doing lots of tight turns thats not what I am after at the moment. I also have to keep in mind his injury a few months ago so again tight turns wouldn't be good for me any way. But a handy gadget and a bit of fun Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 Got to be honest i cant see the use of a flirt pole with running dogs for anything other than a bit of fun.......flirt pole is not a conditioning tool your not going to get lung power from it they are just a way of bringing up a dogs reflexes and sharpness thats all. It's a good tool for a lurcher if it's used properly and from a young age ... It promotes subtleness ... strike ... Teaches the dog to twist and turn sharply ... Instils an almost conditioned response to grab something flitting Past it quickly ... But the dog does need to catch the lure a lot more as a pup when using it on a lurcher to keep the interest there ...... Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted April 22, 2015 Report Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Have to agree with nasher I've used a flirt with every dog I've had lurcher or terrier shorter pole is best if you want a dog to run at a lure buy a lure machine flirt is all about twist turn even jump short burst work get heart rate up let it drop and bring it up again makes em strong fit and agile as been said lurcher pups learn to strike fast when using a flirt edited to say I use a 6ft boat rod Edited April 22, 2015 by leethedog 1 Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,535 Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Got to be honest i cant see the use of a flirt pole with running dogs for anything other than a bit of fun.......flirt pole is not a conditioning tool your not going to get lung power from it they are just a way of bringing up a dogs reflexes and sharpness thats all. It's a good tool for a lurcher if it's used properly and from a young age ... It promotes subtleness ... strike ... Teaches the dog to twist and turn sharply ... Instils an almost conditioned response to grab something flitting Past it quickly ... But the dog does need to catch the lure a lot more as a pup when using it on a lurcher to keep the interest there ...... You are the dog psychologist you must of seen dogs too intelligent to even bother chasing anything thats not alive ?.......when it comes to conditioning the thick dogs are easy its the super intelligent ones that are hard work......i remember having a few look at me as if to say " f**k off.... what do you think i am stupid " 2 Quote Link to post
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