Lets See Them Whippets, Coarsing, Racing, Working

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9 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

No, I knew instantly that you got your maths the wrong way round.

It was 50 years ago when I was handicapping and whippets and greyhounds have got faster in that time, so if I was to do it now, I’d handicap at 17 yards per second rather than 16 yards per second as I used to.

Now you can get on with the homework I sent you and also write 100 times “ I must not contradict on something I know nothing about” ! 
Cheers.

lol like i do me shoes 

would you say greyhounds are better chart ? ballyreagan bob wasn’t far off running them times over 720 meter was he 

what’s the biggest race  1000 meter ? 

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Just now, mC HULL said:

lol like i do me shoes 

would you say greyhounds are better chart ? ballyreagan bob wasn’t far off running them times over 720 meter was he 

what’s the biggest race  1000 meter ? 

I’d say the times, on average, have improved.

Ive not really looked at the times in detail for greyhounds but I do know that the non- ped times have improved dramatically. 
When I came home 20 years ago and got back into the whippets I couldn’t believe the times the lads were telling me so I bought a stop watch and sure enough the times were right. 
They’ve improved again in the last 20 years. Back when I was handicapping, a scratch dog would do 9 seconds for 150 yards, 20 years ago there were very, very few that were doing 8 seconds, now there are quite a few getting below 8 seconds , that means the best dogs are at least 16 yards faster over 150 yards than the used to be..

I put this down to selectively breeding the best to the best and only adding the very best greyhound blood, not failed track dogs.

We used to use small greyhound bitches to cross with whippet dogs that couldnt do the times on the track as they were readily available and the non-ped whippets had a weight limit of 32 lb, but now the weight limit is 55lb so bigger, better greyhounds can be used and the pups that get too big for weight handicaps can go into the heavyweight and no limit scratch races.

Cheers.

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1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

a greyhound may run 16 yards a second handicap over 100 meter it won’t over 450 meters mate lol 

side note if i put a whippet over my bitch the pups wouldn’t have more speed lol or id a done it a long time ago like when i’ve had half saluki greys that are slower then me coursing bred lol 

What makes you think a greyhound is slowing down at 450 mts all good greyhounds are still running on strong at 480 mts and further 

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1DMdjEZdY&si=Wt4yhVLNQwsYZSne

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26 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I’d say the times, on average, have improved.

Ive not really looked at the times in detail for greyhounds but I do know that the non- ped times have improved dramatically. 
When I came home 20 years ago and got back into the whippets I couldn’t believe the times the lads were telling me so I bought a stop watch and sure enough the times were right. 
They’ve improved again in the last 20 years. Back when I was handicapping, a scratch dog would do 9 seconds for 150 yards, 20 years ago there were very, very few that were doing 8 seconds, now there are quite a few getting below 8 seconds , that means the best dogs are at least 16 yards faster over 150 yards than the used to be..

I put this down to selectively breeding the best to the best and only adding the very best greyhound blood, not failed track dogs.

We used to use small greyhound bitches to cross with whippet dogs that couldnt do the times on the track as they were readily available and the non-ped whippets had a weight limit of 32 lb, but now the weight limit is 55lb so bigger, better greyhounds can be used and the pups that get too big for weight handicaps can go into the heavyweight and no limit scratch races.

Cheers.

i’ll have a look later at times i can remember looking i’m sure ballyreagan bob was about 15 yards a second over 720 for the record i remember becuase it impressed me 

greyhounds we’re massive here before the 2000s i use to love going speedway rugby league greyhounds all at same spot hull kr stadium then it went to hull fc stadium now it’s donny or sheffield 

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25 minutes ago, prefabs said:

What makes you think a greyhound is slowing down at 450 mts all good greyhounds are still running on strong at 480 mts and further 

from watching them mate you get further distances don’t ya and plenty finish stronger but the majority ain’t 

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1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

i’ll have a look later at times i can remember looking i’m sure ballyreagan bob was about 15 yards a second over 720 for the record i remember becuase it impressed me 

greyhounds we’re massive here before the 2000s i use to love going speedway rugby league greyhounds all at same spot hull kr stadium then it went to hull fc stadium now it’s donny or sheffield 

Yeah, we had Newcastle Diamonds Speedway and greyhound racing at Brough park.

Cheers.

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9 minutes ago, nothernlite said:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1DMdjEZdY&si=Wt4yhVLNQwsYZSne

lol

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7 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Yeah, we had Newcastle Diamonds Speedway and greyhound racing at Brough park.

Cheers.

i’m just at me old lady’s mate she’s a few year older then you i just said i’m going whippet me pal gl said there the best she laughed said i’ve give more whippets to the scrap man then i care to remember we would a starved if that’s all there was lol 

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9 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i’ll have a look later at times i can remember looking i’m sure ballyreagan bob was about 15 yards a second over 720 for the record i remember becuase it impressed me 

greyhounds we’re massive here before the 2000s i use to love going speedway rugby league greyhounds all at same spot hull kr stadium then it went to hull fc stadium now it’s donny or sheffield 

Just had a quick look; Ballyregan Bob did 44:65 seconds,  16.5 metres per second over 740 metres at Hove . Form Of Magic has the track record 43:49 which is just over 17 metres per second over 740 at Hove. So the time has improved and Form of Magic would , theoretically, beat Ballyreagan Bob by around 16 metres.

Cheets.

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16 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Just had a quick look; Ballyregan Bob did 44:65 seconds,  16.5 metres per second over 740 metres at Hove . Form Of Magic has the track record 43:49 which is just over 17 metres per second over 740 at Hove. So the time has improved and Form of Magic would , theoretically, beat Ballyreagan Bob by around 16 metres.

Cheets.

i’ll have a look later at form of magic it ain’t a lot but racing 16 meter is a lot aint it 

got the baine to take out about half 8 for a few hour moon full and low but she wont rest until i do lol 

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38 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

from watching them mate you get further distances don’t ya and plenty finish stronger but the majority ain’t 

 

38 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

from watching them mate you get further distances don’t ya and plenty finish stronger but the majority ain’t 

I’ve had greyhounds most of my life and still own 2 there’s very few that are running out of steam at 450 mts 

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So, what you think a coursing bred could run mate, around 500 meter a second or something along those lines?

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7 minutes ago, prefabs said:

 

I’ve had greyhounds most of my life and still own 2 there’s very few that are running out of steam at 450 mts 

you see loads going backwards off the last bend even getting stretchered off dont you lol 

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7 minutes ago, Leatherface said:

So, what you think a coursing bred could run mate, around 500 meter a second or something along those lines?

it needs to run rfast enough to get there and have the gears to keep trying at will lol