dillydog 8,463 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 I was talking about an occupied earth, I don't go in for that dog marking on a lead nonsense. Each to their own but in my eyes a dog should be able to check an earth without being held back because it's so dull. 3 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 If a quarry is found not far from an entrance and dog bayed on its tail to a stop ,which should be obvious from initial contact ,then i guess its ok but for a dog to bay whilst searching dry on a mark must be frustrating . Not seen it yet but i think i may question the reason IMO . 1 Quote Link to post
Dabhand 887 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Ive seen a few do It untill its up to its game tight spots can cause it just frustration coming out in the dogs voice supose once you know the dog it does not matter the end result is what counts 4 Quote Link to post
jamie2004live 163 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 2 different arguments there, if its baying when somebodys home i really dont see the problem as long as it completes the job, however wasting valuable time running every unoccupied earth you go to is another thing entirely, as i said back fill one hundred percent, any dog worth its salt or any dog that will earn its keep in my kennel will mark on a lead, the lads that come out with me will know exactly what i mean and most dogs i keep will tell u exactly what they are marking! is that really a high bar to have? because i think of it as a minimum requirment??? 5 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 A lot of fair dog's may give off abark when searching some Burrows, with scent, and hot bedding, but if you know your dog you knowwwhen its on with its type of bark, Totaly different than a dog that barks at nothing! but scent even for a minite, 1 Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 2 different arguments there, if its baying when somebodys home i really dont see the problem as long as it completes the job, however wasting valuable time running every unoccupied earth you go to is another thing entirely, as i said back fill one hundred percent, any dog worth its salt or any dog that will earn its keep in my kennel will mark on a lead, the lads that come out with me will know exactly what i mean and most dogs i keep will tell u exactly what they are marking! is that really a high bar to have? because i think of it as a minimum requirment??? i think somrthings got lost in translation. i feel the bar is set to high when good working terriers are culled simply becouse it yaps a few times whilst getting upto its fox. or maybe becouse the owner cant read a dogs working habits correctly. dogs barking in empty earths are a different thing altogether 4 Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Cleanspade ur dead right once u know ur dog its not a problem theres no rules on the way a dog finds if the dog done it in empty holes id find it a big problem I wonder if its inter bred to get a good trait doing that 1 Quote Link to post
jamie2004live 163 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 2 different arguments there, if its baying when somebodys home i really dont see the problem as long as it completes the job, however wasting valuable time running every unoccupied earth you go to is another thing entirely, as i said back fill one hundred percent, any dog worth its salt or any dog that will earn its keep in my kennel will mark on a lead, the lads that come out with me will know exactly what i mean and most dogs i keep will tell u exactly what they are marking! is that really a high bar to have? because i think of it as a minimum requirment??? i think somrthings got lost in translation. i feel the bar is set to high when good working terriers are culled simply becouse it yaps a few times whilst getting upto its fox. or maybe becouse the owner cant read a dogs working habits correctly. dogs barking in empty earths are a different thing altogether couldnt agree more with you mate as long as theres something home as ive already said i dont see the problem ? 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Ask the cuntryman he'll know 1 Quote Link to post
Thrush 181 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Met a fella whilst out one morning and as I approached him at an earth I could hear his dog baying, got one in?I enquired. Nah he's on scent came the reply, sure enough a couple of minutes later out comes dog and off they go! I guess you could argue that at least the guy new his dog was on scent but it's not for me, if a dog cracks up I expect him to be on! Each to there own I guess, but that's my preference. Atb 4 Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I've got a bitch here that yaps and bays all the way around until she hits here game, once she's working up close she's all but mute............does this mean she's frightened of the dark ? DD,did you ever consider that she may hear the game moving about and thats why she is yaping.I have 3 bitchs here that will all give a little tounge until they get to there game then mute until dug to.I used to have a dog a couple of year ago[dead now] that on his way to locating its game would actually be screaming,many the man that did not know the dog would say he was geting terrible punishment but it was only when he got to his quarry that it all went quiet,just bumping.I also [pre-ban] had a dog that would sound away on fox but on bigger game was completely mute where as in most cases it was the oppisite.Question for all ye diging lads,[pre-ban] how many terriers did ye see that would work fox and not the other even though they were only sounders and all they had to do was sit yaping into its face.? Seen plenty back in the day Fatman that would work one but not the other,because sounders or not if they got charged they did not want to know about it.Have a good black dog here at the present time he takes no prisoners but he has an annoying fault when he kills something he starts trying to pull it out,its starting to do my head in. Quote Link to post
stevie g 2005 125 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I've got a bitch here that yaps and bays all the way around until she hits here game, once she's working up close she's all but mute............does this mean she's frightened of the dark ? DD,did you ever consider that she may hear the game moving about and thats why she is yaping.I have 3 bitchs here that will all give a little tounge until they get to there game then mute until dug to.I used to have a dog a couple of year ago[dead now] that on his way to locating its game would actually be screaming,many the man that did not know the dog would say he was geting terrible punishment but it was only when he got to his quarry that it all went quiet,just bumping.I also [pre-ban] had a dog that would sound away on fox but on bigger game was completely mute where as in most cases it was the oppisite.Question for all ye diging lads,[pre-ban] how many terriers did ye see that would work fox and not the other even though they were only sounders and all they had to do was sit yaping into its face.? Its called a fox dog fatman lol Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 Seen plenty back in the day Fatman that would work one but not the other,because sounders or not if they got charged they did not want to know about it.Have a good black dog here at the present time he takes no prisoners but he has an annoying fault when he kills something he starts trying to pull it out,its starting to do my head in. Would suit someone whos shovel shy though mate .Does annoy when youve a dig on and hes backing out with it lol. 1 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I've got a bitch here that yaps and bays all the way around until she hits here game, once she's working up close she's all but mute............does this mean she's frightened of the dark ? DD,did you ever consider that she may hear the game moving about and thats why she is yaping.I have 3 bitchs here that will all give a little tounge until they get to there game then mute until dug to.I used to have a dog a couple of year ago[dead now] that on his way to locating its game would actually be screaming,many the man that did not know the dog would say he was geting terrible punishment but it was only when he got to his quarry that it all went quiet,just bumping.I also [pre-ban] had a dog that would sound away on fox but on bigger game was completely mute where as in most cases it was the oppisite.Question for all ye diging lads,[pre-ban] how many terriers did ye see that would work fox and not the other even though they were only sounders and all they had to do was sit yaping into its face.? Seen plenty back in the day Fatman that would work one but not the other,because sounders or not if they got charged they did not want to know about it.Have a good black dog here at the present time he takes no prisoners but he has an annoying fault when he kills something he starts trying to pull it out,its starting to do my head in. Yeah we had a strong type a few year back that would pull its quarry when he heard you geting close to him,we learned to dig a couple of ft behind hin in the end and it worked for us.That lugs dog is a prat also if he kills,wants to keep it for himself,lol. 1 Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 How do you know when your behind him I got a job to get behind my wife in the dark 1 Quote Link to post
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