rimfirelover1990 4 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 hi everyone has anyone else on the forum got one of these im just wondering what other ammo people have tried and what the best is at the moment im using remington accutips and getting a 1inch group thanks simon Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 it sone of those ones you just have to try different ammo. winchester siilver tips shot well in a einchester 22/250 i had. and so does the 50 grain vmax norma Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 + 1 you'll have to test various rounds. Although I've only tried a few including norma 53g soft point hornady vmax 55g but have now settled on the new hornady superformance 50g vmax. Out of the 3 tested these are plenty accurate enough out of my .22-250 have managed a 320 yard head shot crow. I zero at 150 yards and that gives me approx 2.2" drop at 300 yards. Quote Link to post
abarrett 462 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 + 1 you'll have to test various rounds. Although I've only tried a few including norma 53g soft point hornady vmax 55g but have now settled on the new hornady superformance 50g vmax. Out of the 3 tested these are plenty accurate enough out of my .22-250 have managed a 320 yard head shot crow. I zero at 150 yards and that gives me approx 2.2" drop at 300 yards. Are you sure Dan Ratmanwan shoots a Remington 22 250 We zero at 150 yards 1 and half inch high So at 300 yards it drops 2 inch but that includes the the inch and half high it's zeroed at so the drop is 3 n half inch The theory being at 1 n half inch high at 150 gives you a 4 inch point of impact from 0 to 300 that's a dead fox If you zero at 150 and it only drops 2 inch at 300 yards then we need to try them bullets Quote Link to post
rimfirelover1990 4 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 hi thank you every one for your info on the matter i will give some off the ammo said ago see what happens Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Sorry your right. I didn't add that I zero 1" high at 150 yards lol. If you've never tried the ammo though I'd certainly give them a go. I had a slight accuracy gain but a lot flatter. Also extremely explosive on Charlie. I've had a few missing limbs on some foxes on bullet exit, I had one that I pulled the shot and bullet impacted the gut fox dropped on the spot to my joy. Though I was going to have a wounded fox on my hands which needed dispatching but they did the business. Edited April 6, 2015 by shropshire dan 1 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 + 1 you'll have to test various rounds. Although I've only tried a few including norma 53g soft point hornady vmax 55g but have now settled on the new hornady superformance 50g vmax. Out of the 3 tested these are plenty accurate enough out of my .22-250 have managed a 320 yard head shot crow. I zero at 150 yards and that gives me approx 2.2" drop at 300 yards. Are you sure Dan Ratmanwan shoots a Remington 22 250 We zero at 150 yards 1 and half inch high So at 300 yards it drops 2 inch but that includes the the inch and half high it's zeroed at so the drop is 3 n half inch The theory being at 1 n half inch high at 150 gives you a 4 inch point of impact from 0 to 300 that's a dead fox If you zero at 150 and it only drops 2 inch at 300 yards then we need to try them bullets Sorry your right. I didn't add that I zero 1" high at 150 yards lol. If you've never tried the ammo though I'd certainly give them a go. I had a slight accuracy gain but a lot flatter. Also extremely explosive on Charlie. I've had a few missing limbs on some foxes on bullet exit, I had one that I pulled the shot and bullet impacted the gut fox dropped on the spot to my joy. Though I was going to have a wounded fox on my hands which needed dispatching but they did the business. Help me out here, I never understand why people say...I zero 1" high... WHY? So, where is the real zero, do you actually know? If you are 1-1.5" high at 150 yards how do you know if that is the top of the arc, is the bullet still rising or falling at that point? If you shoot out to 300 yards why don't you just zero properly at circa 200-250 yards as I suspect that is about where your real zero is, or whatever distance works for you? You have land to shoot on at that distance so why can't you zero at that distance? It is not uncommon to zero a rifle at say 200 yards, and then come back close, say 50 yards and just blat away, knowing where the bullet falls then will enable you to check a 200 yards zero again by shooting at 50 yards, all else being equal (still not foolproof), but I just don't get this I zero 1-1.5" from anything malarkey! 1 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 hi thank you every one for your info on the matter i will give some off the ammo said ago see what happens As has already been said, you have just got to try some. Admittedly in .308, but myself and a pal both bought 700s some years back within a week or two of each other. Mine shoots PRVI to 1", his shoots the same batch to 4". Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 It's pretty easy to "get" deker all you have to do is blindly believe what is written on the box of bullets or in some ballistic software nonsense the idea of using a chronograph to prove MV or check shot To shot consistency and real time testing at range is lost on some so just zero 1" high at 100 and it be fine 1 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I just find that easier than trying to see the bullet group at 300 yards. I only use a 4-12x40 scope and although perfect for hunting shooting a zero group and seeing it at 300 yards will be a struggle. 1 Quote Link to post
abarrett 462 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 The only reason we do it this way is we know that between 0 and 300 yards That bullet is guaranteed in a 4 inch area high or low 50 yards or 300 yards We can hit a 4 inch target. as we shoot fox at night that's a dead fox This works why do we need to know the rest of it It's not a case of that's what the table says or the box says at all It works for us why change it Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I just find that easier than trying to see the bullet group at 300 yards. I only use a 4-12x40 scope and although perfect for hunting shooting a zero group and seeing it at 300 yards will be a struggle. :hmm: ...but the zero isn't 300 yards, its way less if you are about 2" low at 300 yards! Have you never actually shot a target/zero group out to 300 yards? 1 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) The only reason we do it this way is we know that between 0 and 300 yards That bullet is guaranteed in a 4 inch area high or low 50 yards or 300 yards We can hit a 4 inch target. as we shoot fox at night that's a dead fox This works why do we need to know the rest of it It's not a case of that's what the table says or the box says at all It works for us why change it My apologies for taking this a little off topic, and whilst I accept charts/tables are no more than a guide, what ammo are you using to get a 4" spread between 50-300 yards, none of the 22-250 listed here are even close to that! Remington Centerfire Ballistics Table (Hope the link works but lifted from Remington) http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Remington+Centerfire+Ballistics+Table&FORM=RESTAB#view=detail&id=4FD9B161B9179432A5A60A7FD924FFC64805AED4&selectedIndex=2 Edited April 7, 2015 by Deker Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I've shot steel out past 300 yards before now. But found I don't need to For what I do. As abarrett says shoot a fox or steel target upto 300 yards and you've nailed it without any holdover. I've taken rabbits and crows out past 300 yards but only a couple of foxes. I don't really need to take foxes over 250 yards really, the ones I have taken over 300 could have been squeaked in easier or were stubborn to come in. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I've shot steel out past 300 yards before now. But found I don't need to For what I do. As abarrett says shoot a fox or steel target upto 300 yards and you've nailed it without any holdover. I've taken rabbits and crows out past 300 yards but only a couple of foxes. I don't really need to take foxes over 250 yards really, the ones I have taken over 300 could have been squeaked in easier or were stubborn to come in. If you can then great, but what is this magic 22-250 bullet that performs within 4" from 50-300 yards? ...and it still doesn't explain this 1-1.5" high business. Guys, if this is working for you then fine, but there is an assortment of grey areas here that I just don't get! Quote Link to post
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