Quarter bull 240 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Couldnt be better, alot of folk have taken the scripture in the past an used it for their own power an control, theres no men on earth, that can forgive your sins, only jesus christ our lord, whatever these power hungry men have done in the past in the name of.......its fudge all to do with the bible, an if people had a second look, they might realise this.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Quarter bull 240 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Can't be arsed quarter bull you continue to read a TRANSLATION OF A TRANSLATION AD INFINITUM! lmao if you spoke another language you would understand some things do notranslate. No doubt you speak ancient Greek, Aramaic, Assyrian and understand a whole plethora of dialects, local grammatical quirks plus be able to read the written scripts taken from a time period of thousands of years.... Away with yaself and think old Jim got it right No bother mush, your loss mate, here a bit of reading for you, king james is translated from originals, this is a short answer, i could go down deep, an kick every dog on the way down, but i dont need to, atb...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Online Reading Meet Jesus Take Survey Contact Us Subscribe PRODUCTS What's New? Tracts T-shirts Art Prints John & Romans Books eBooks Audiobook Digital Comics Comics DVDs Assortments Racks Mini-books Spanish Bibles INFORMATION Battle Cry How to Witness Jack Chick Statement of Faith Discounts Custom Printing FAQ Halloween Bible Versions Why the KJV? Catholicism Creation/Evolution Islam Jehovah's Witnesses Masonry Mormonism Contact Authors Outside U.S. Privacy Chick Publications P.O. Box 3500 Ontario, Calif. 91761 USA (909) 987-0771 Ph. 8 am - 5 pm PT (909) 941-8128 Fax © 2001 by David W. Daniels Question: I know the New King James is said to be a "revision of the King James." But were the Greek and Hebrew texts for the New King James the same as they were for the King James? Answer: The NKJV is not a revision of the King James Bible. It is a subtle perversion of the King James Bible. Though years of extensive research have shown that the Greek and Hebrew texts used for the main NKJV text were similar to those used for the KJV, there is a subtle and deadly poison injected into the NKJV: it changes the meaning of God's words and it lifts up other texts that disagree with the King James. A History of Preservation There is a big difference between God's preserved words and man's perverted words. And keep in mind that two things had to be preserved through the centuries: the accurate text of God's words, and the correct translation of those words. Old Testament God preserved the words of the Old Testament by the Levitical priests, who faithfully copied them through the centuries. The best manuscript, used by the King James Bible, was the Ben Chayyim, also called the "Bomberg Text." This faithful Rabbinic Old Testament, used for the King James Bible, was rejected by the NKJV committee in favor of a Vatican-published text. But it still takes a careful eye (and a parallel Bible) to spot the differences. New Testament God preserved the words of the New Testament by His faithful Christian disciples, from Antioch of Syria (Acts 11:26) to the Vaudois people of the French Alps about AD 120. From the 150s on they passed this Old Latin Bible (called "Common Bible" or "Vulgate") throughout Europe and the British Isles. The Vaudois people were regarded by the Protestants and Baptists as "pre-Reformers," passing down the gospel message till the Reformation of the 1500s. Their Bibles and others translated from them, were so accurate they were included in translating the King James Bible. The NKJV committee unwisely used none of these Bibles when deciding the meaning of God's words and how to translate them into English. The Preserved vs. the Perverted "Vulgate" Please remember: the Vaudois' Old Latin Vulgate is not the same as the later Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate. The Vaudois' Vulgate is God's preserved words of God in Old Latin which brought the gospel to all Europe. The Roman Catholic Vulgate is completely different. It wrongly mixed God's words with the perverted Alexandrian Greek Old Testament, Apocrypha and New Testament. Modern "scholars" falsely declare there's only one Latin Vulgate. But there are two: the preserved (Vaudois) and the perverted (Roman Catholic). A Mixture of Perversion The New King James Version is not a true King James Bible. It mixes some true King James accuracy with a lot of Alexandrian and "new version" errors. We know this because the NKJV tells us which ancient texts they used when they made up their Bible. Don't be fooled by the clever names and symbols. Here is what they say they really used: The Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia, or BHS. This is not the preserved Hebrew Old Testament. This one is approved by the Vatican (Roman Catholic religion) and printed jointly by the Vatican and Protestant Bible societies. In 1937 the "scholars" rejected the preserved Ben Chayyim it for an "older" (but not more accurate) text: the Leningrad Ms B 19a (also called the "Ben Asher text"). The BHS states: "...it is a welcome sign of the times that it was published jointly in 1971 by the Wurttemburg Bible Society, Stuttgart, and the Pontifical Biblical Institute, Rome...." --Prolegomena, p. XII The Septuagint, or LXX. As you have seen1, the so-called "Septuagint" is a fable. It was really written after Jesus was born, not before. There are many Septuagints, since each Alexandrian Old Testament is different from every other. Know what they are? Sinaiticus, Vaticanus and Alexandrinus - the same exact codices (big books) where the modern perverted New Testaments come from! The Latin Vulgate. This is not the preserved Vaudois Christian, Old Latin Vulgate. The NKJV "scholars" consulted the perverted, Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate. The Dead Sea Scrolls, or DSS. It is clear through Scripture that God preserved His words through the tribe of Levi (Deuteronomy 17:18, 31:9-13, 25-26, Nehemiah 8 and Malachi 2:7). The Qumran community that produced the DSS are never said to be Levites. But though God says "the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth" (Malachi 2:7), the NKJV committee instead consulted the DSS as well. The Majority Text, or MT. With a name like Majority Text it should be a compilation of the majority of Greek New Testament manuscripts. But it is not. The "Majority Text" is actually a hand-picked set of manuscripts grouped together by "pro-Alexandrian" liberal Hermann von Soden2. Less than 8% of the over 5,000 Greek manuscripts were compared to each other by von Soden's team of collators! But the NKJV people give the MT great prominence, writing this inaccurate information in the footnotes. So people think that the King James is wrong, since it disagrees with "the Majority Text." Who cares? The "Majority Text" is not the majority of texts! The "Majority Text" is a big fake. Don't believe it. And don't trust any Bible that does. If It Looks Like a Duck and Talks Like a Duck There is another side to the New King James that reveals its ugly alliances. In most places where the NKJV disagrees with the King James Bible, it agrees with the translations of modern Alexandrian perversions, whether Prostestant like the NIV, NAS, RSV, ASV, etc., or Roman Catholic like the New American Bible. The King James Bible is God's preserved words in English. The NKJV is just man's most subtle perversion of God's words. Don't be deceived. Insist on the King James Bible, not "New" King James, "Modern" King James, King James "2" or "21" or "Millennium,." Even thought it is very similar to a King James Bible, it is not a King James Bible. Insist on the one you can stake your faith on, the genuine King James Bible. God will bless you. Verse King James NKJV Perversions agreeing with NKJV Acts 3:26 God, having raised up his Son His Servant NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Roman Catholic New American Bible (NAB), etc. Acts 17:22 I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. very religious NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc. Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie who exchanged the truth of God for the lie NIV, NASV, ASV, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc. 1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. who are being saved [This teaches the Roman Catholic lie that salvation is a process.] NIV, NASV, NASU, RSV, Catholic NAB, etc. Footnotes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 bgd i dont get how you can defend islam? Maybe if you knew decent muslims i can understand that. Leftys seem quick to jump on any right wing comments at gays yet will defend islam which believes gays should be killed? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Away with yaself and think old Jim got it right Jim will fix it,,, what were you warned about listening to paedos mush, lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 bgd i dont get how you can defend islam? Maybe if you knew decent muslims i can understand that. Leftys seem quick to jump on any right wing comments at gays yet will defend islam which believes gays should be killed? I know some good muslims. Kind decent folk. Doesn't stop me criticizing islam though. It's a powerful hate machine, bent on total domination. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 QB-we've been over most of this before,the vid i sent you will confirm paganism in Europe is much, much older than any Abrahamic religion. ChrisJones-my only real point was xtianity,islam and any other manipulative cult designed to enslave its followers do no not speak for all religions,most that i've looked into are entirely different to the point where if your only knowledge of 'religion' was xtianity or islam you probably wouldn't class the others as real religions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Nah dont think so, weres your authenticated pagan documents, like the scriptures, there is none neems.. Neems your claims are very funny, give me an example how christians are enaved,,,, I fail to see this mate, on the other hand your trapped in your, materialistic, paganistic, evoloutionary worship of yourself as god, an mother earth as your girlfriend, sorry neems, but your brainwashed imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 bgd i dont get how you can defend islam? Maybe if you knew decent muslims i can understand that. Leftys seem quick to jump on any right wing comments at gays yet will defend islam which believes gays should be killed? It's simple really, I've met more decent muslims than bad, just like every other religion or culuture. Does that mean I won't criticise the bad practices of Islam? Of course not, but I don't see them as some kind of existential threat to our way of life so I don't bang on about it. There's some pretty shitty things in their holy book, just like there is in the Bible. What you have to remember is the vast majority of muslims aren't exactly devout, they might go to mosque once a year and probably haven't even looked at a Quran since they were kids, just like most Christians 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Nah dont think so, weres your authenticated pagan documents, like the scriptures, there is none neems.. Neems your claims are very funny, give me an example how christians are enaved,,,, I fail to see this mate, on the other hand your trapped in your, materialistic, paganistic, evoloutionary worship of yourself as god, an mother earth as your girlfriend, sorry neems, but your brainwashed imo mate i really dont know what your talking about. i see myself as god and the earth as my girlfriend????? i mean she's heavily pregnant and not her usual slender self,but she hasnt got her own gravitational pull..yet wtf goes on inside your head man? but for the record it predates the written word,watch the vid and you'll see more than enough evidence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 bgd i dont get how you can defend islam? Maybe if you knew decent muslims i can understand that. Leftys seem quick to jump on any right wing comments at gays yet will defend islam which believes gays should be killed? It's simple really, I've met more decent muslims than bad, just like every other religion or culuture. Does that mean I won't criticise the bad practices of Islam? Of course not, but I don't see them as some kind of existential threat to our way of life so I don't bang on about it. There's some pretty shitty things in their holy book, just like there is in the Bible. What you have to remember is the vast majority of muslims aren't exactly devout, they might go to mosque once a year and probably haven't even looked at a Quran since they were kids, just like most Christians Dont have to tell me mate i lived in london and wasnt a sheltered kid. I think many people know you cant label a whole group bad. I just think people get annoyed at the lack of response from the so called decent muslims. It shouldnt be people getting wound up about the likes of anjem . Muslims should be annoyed and attack him for bringing so much shit on them type of thing. On the whole i think most people just wanna get on with life and enjoy it and i hope soon the extremist bubble will burst. By that i mean its not tolerated at all and the country stops lacking common sense in dealing with them. Saddly i think more people will need to be killed before that happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) bgd i dont get how you can defend islam? Maybe if you knew decent muslims i can understand that. Leftys seem quick to jump on any right wing comments at gays yet will defend islam which believes gays should be killed? It's simple really, I've met more decent muslims than bad, just like every other religion or culuture. Does that mean I won't criticise the bad practices of Islam? Of course not, but I don't see them as some kind of existential threat to our way of life so I don't bang on about it. There's some pretty shitty things in their holy book, just like there is in the Bible. What you have to remember is the vast majority of muslims aren't exactly devout, they might go to mosque once a year and probably haven't even looked at a Quran since they were kids, just like most Christians Dont have to tell me mate i lived in london and wasnt a sheltered kid. I think many people know you cant label a whole group bad. I just think people get annoyed at the lack of response from the so called decent muslims. It shouldnt be people getting wound up about the likes of anjem . Muslims should be annoyed and attack him for bringing so much shit on them type of thing. On the whole i think most people just wanna get on with life and enjoy it and i hope soon the extremist bubble will burst. By that i mean its not tolerated at all and the country stops lacking common sense in dealing with them. Saddly i think more people will need to be killed before that happens. I always see Islamic community leaders on the box after terrorist attacks condemning them and all my Muslim mates can't shut up about Daesh and other extremists. They f***ing hate Saudi Arabia too Maybe it depends on who you talk to and what media you consume? From where I'm standing there's been no lack of response from decent Muslims... Or maybe you're just expecting too much from them? Where were the calls for all decent Christians to condemn the IRA and the peadophile priests and the Magdalene laundries? Seems we hold Muslims to a higher standard than other religions for some reason? Edited April 13, 2015 by BGD 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Nah dont think so, weres your authenticated pagan documents, like the scriptures, there is none neems.. Neems your claims are very funny, give me an example how christians are enaved,,,, I fail to see this mate, on the other hand your trapped in your, materialistic, paganistic, evoloutionary worship of yourself as god, an mother earth as your girlfriend, sorry neems, but your brainwashed imo mate i really dont know what your talking about. i see myself as god and the earth as my girlfriend????? i mean she's heavily pregnant and not her usual slender self,but she hasnt got her own gravitational pull..yet wtf goes on inside your head man? but for the record it predates the written word,watch the vid and you'll see more than enough evidence. Yeah well you dont know that much about paganism neems afterfall..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,359 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I've done plenty and still do. Been all over Europe protesting and fighting fascists and I've got the scars and criminal record to prove it Even got my mug up on RedWatch You sound proud of that mate.......are you on the website ?......what area ?......just out of interest like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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