Ideation 8,216 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I have half thoughts of breeding from each of my three, at various points. . . . whether it will ever happen though, is another thing all together. Wouldn't mind getting a pup out of the whip, or at least getting his blood on the ground. It would either have to be to a decent small lurcher, or possibly even my collie. Want to replace him, with a similar little mooching / ratching dog, handy for bunnys, ratting, ferreting etc. He will be six next birthday, so time is ticking on. Have started to think about breeding my young bitch one day, maybe three years from now. Would look to put a collie/bull/grey type over her. Although at the same time, maybe it's just less hassle to source a quality pup, either a collie/bull/grey or i've been quite fancying a 3/8 5/8 bull/grey. And finally, little Gwen. One day I will 100% breed from her to keep a couple back . . . . i'll never let the line go. . . . . i'd never get i back! (It's not my line). 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I have half thoughts of breeding from each of my three, at various points. . . . whether it will ever happen though, is another thing all together. Wouldn't mind getting a pup out of the whip, or at least getting his blood on the ground. It would either have to be to a decent small lurcher, or possibly even my collie. Want to replace him, with a similar little mooching / ratching dog, handy for bunnys, ratting, ferreting etc. He will be six next birthday, so time is ticking on. Have started to think about breeding my young bitch one day, maybe three years from now. Would look to put a collie/bull/grey type over her. Although at the same time, maybe it's just less hassle to source a quality pup, either a collie/bull/grey or i've been quite fancying a 3/8 5/8 bull/grey. And finally, little Gwen. One day I will 100% breed from her to keep a couple back . . . . i'll never let the line go. . . . . i'd never get i back! (It's not my line). A whippet like yours over a smallish 23" lurcher would be ideal for the rabbiting, ratting, ferreting, mooching job in my opinion. I would put a whippet over my brindle bitch if I was going down that route. And if she was worth breeding from. Which she isn't and isn't likely to be ? But that shape/stamp/size would be ideal for producing smaller lurchers I think... 1 Quote Link to post
hawkins26 751 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I will breed my bitch in 3 seasons she is spot on I have brought another saluki grey pup in that I might use depending on how he does Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 what breeding plans do you guys have now or in the next 5 years or sow some pics of your dogs you are thinking of breeding would be good I used to beat myself up over all this now I'm pretty much leaning towards brother sister matings if I get two that I like. I just did it last year and I am very pleased with the results. Quote Link to post
brenner 773 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Would like to take a pup from this lad put to something simularily bred after a couple more seasons. If he keeps doing what hes doing for me now . Hes fairly tight on sooty sam so some might argue that an outcross to different lines would be a better option and im not completely ignoring the idea but i think its worth the risk (sticking with the line)to increase my chances of getting something back off him that works / acts like him.im no breeder so i would like to hear opinions from people that know there way around a ped or have a good understanding of genetics. Dogs ped name is blue pride of ireland , ped is on whippet archives, ive no idea how to add link. If somebody could.. much apprieciated! Anyway .. question is this ..after looking at ped and seeing how this dog is bred, if you really liked what you had and knew he was fairly typical of his line would you breed this particular dog back to an s.s line bitch or take a chance on an outcross ? Any opinions welcome Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 http://thewhippetarchives.net/details.php?id=180733 There's plenty of sooty Sam stuff about so maybe try something else lol Quote Link to post
brenner 773 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 http://thewhippetarchives.net/details.php?id=180733 There's plenty of sooty Sam stuff about so maybe try something else lol thanks for the link. Like you say, there is loads of that stuff around but my aim would be to produce something exaclty like him ( in a perfect senario) and i know he is fairly typical of his lineage. So breeding to a good bitch of the same blood would make sence but the question still stands.. is it time to outcross for health reasons ? Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted April 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 what breeding plans do you guys have now or in the next 5 years or sow some pics of your dogs you are thinking of breeding would be good I used to beat myself up over all this now I'm pretty much leaning towards brother sister matings if I get two that I like. I just did it last year and I am very pleased with the results. hi dan i did that about 8 years ago with very good resalts.did you have any monged pups all mine were fine one was a bit small all others very evan Quote Link to post
redcharge 378 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 what breeding plans do you guys have now or in the next 5 years or sow some pics of your dogs you are thinking of breeding would be good you looking for abit of fresh blood to go into your dogs dave or you just being curios to whats going to be about? i am waiting for some one to say they have used spider pig over there bitch has hes got some good rabbiting dogs in his breeding. jest curios to whats out there but if i see the right dog work who nows ? if i dont get a pup out of spider it will be a pup from my ruby hope fully to cesar if he dose well over the next 4 or 5 seasons im looking to keep the size of the pups up so wont go back to any smaller dogs that iv bred my self.few pics of my lot from today. this is one from last week That black and white dog is a cracker Quote Link to post
redcharge 378 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 1483336_735145396514340_1542034672_n.jpg I will be putting the feelers out for a decent dog to put over Fly ...maybe this summer as she has proved she is deffinately a bitch thats worth taking pups from Havnt you got her half brother Mik? A dog with bull in? Why wouldn't you use that? Quote Link to post
storm323 191 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Looks like some decent litters in the future ! And alot of genuine people breeding for the right reasons ! 1 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 http://thewhippetarchives.net/details.php?id=180733 There's plenty of sooty Sam stuff about so maybe try something else lol thanks for the link. Like you say, there is loads of that stuff around but my aim would be to produce something exaclty like him ( in a perfect senario) and i know he is fairly typical of his lineage. So breeding to a good bitch of the same blood would make sence but the question still stands.. is it time to outcross for health reasons ?don't think it would hurt,as a/sam is in there quite a it ,but my knowledge on whippets is nowtMaybe a whippet forum can tell you what has worked in similar situations. Do you want to keep the ikc registration,if not maybe a non-ped racing type Quote Link to post
Chid 6,537 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Ideations whippet would be my choice for a whippet stud , that is one well built strong looking whippet imo Quote Link to post
brenner 773 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 http://thewhippetarchives.net/details.php?id=180733 There's plenty of sooty Sam stuff about so maybe try something else lol thanks for the link. Like you say, there is loads of that stuff around but my aim would be to produce something exaclty like him ( in a perfect senario) and i know he is fairly typical of his lineage. So breeding to a good bitch of the same blood would make sence but the question still stands.. is it time to outcross for health reasons ?don't think it would hurt,as a/sam is in there quite a it ,but my knowledge on whippets is nowtMaybe a whippet forum can tell you what has worked in similar situations. Do you want to keep the ikc registration,if not maybe a non-ped racing type thanks for taking the time to look over ped and reply roybo. If i did look for an outcross in future , i think i would lean towards racing lines as the ground i hunt on the daily is all short tight runs so i would think ide have a better chance of throwing sharp little dogs that could do well on this ground. But there lies a problem... How many whippet racing inthusiasts would want to use a working bred whippet over ther good little racing bred bitch. Either way, thers no hurry so im sure the right bitch will cross my path at some stage. Thanks A.t.b bren.. Quote Link to post
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