04fox8 168 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 My 15 month old springer has been getting progressively worse at releasing anything when she comes back with it. She comes back, sits down (usually in front of me, head up, well presented) then as soon as I go to get the dummy, she turns away, or drops her head and 'holds onto' the dummy with her front feet! I have been patient up to now, but tonight it's wound me up, so here I am looking for any advice. Thanks. Quote Link to post
fabiomilitello 37 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 When she comes back with the dummy, don't take it off her straight away. Get down on your knees, with your arms open wide, give her loads of praise for bringing it back and let her hold the dummy for a little while. Then, say "dead" and take the dummy away from her. I always see people with labs or spaniels do the same mistake. They let the dog come back to them with the dummy, and take it off them as soon as they bring it back. That way, the dog thinks "well, if I'm doing all this work to run up to it and take it back to him, I won't bother if he's only going to take it off me straight away." Just let her hold it for a bit. Quote Link to post
04fox8 168 Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I have tried not to be too quick at taking the dummy from her but maybe I have been. I'll just have to persevere and see what works I suppose. Thanks for the reply. Quote Link to post
Miesque 20 Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Have a second dummy, take the retrieve and hand her the second one, walk her at heel with it for a while then swap them again. Make it so she gets the reward of another dummy if the dummy is what she wants. Edited April 13, 2015 by Miesque Quote Link to post
04fox8 168 Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 She releases when she sees a 2nd dummy. But then just holds the 1st, and looks at the 2nd! I'll give your suggestion a go later Today and see how it goes. Thanks. Quote Link to post
wilbur foxhound 480 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 As the dog comes to you with the dummy pat you're self on the stomach with both hands once the dog looks up take the dummy if it doesn't let go then gently stand on its foot and apply a little more pressure until it lets go then lots of praise,wf Quote Link to post
04fox8 168 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Heard of this before. Nothing working yet..... Been extra patient with her these last few weeks, and swapping dummys gets her letting go of the 1st one. Not sure why this has started as wife and kids don't go anywhere near her, and I've never entered a tug of war with her. (The dog, not the wife) Quote Link to post
hily 379 Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 slip your fingers in her mouth behind the dummy remove the dummy and give her it back and remove the dummy again then throw a short retrieve mix this play up so the dog can't second guess you i do this with my spaniels if not releasing because I think most dogs are optimists and they will release in the hope of more play hope this makes sense. Quote Link to post
04fox8 168 Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'll give that a go. She is far too smart, and I can see where you're coming from with the second guess thing. Quote Link to post
Skull Hooker 185 Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 The recovery of the dummy is a separate discipline to the retrieve, and I reckon it should practiced separately. Just practice giving her the dummy making the dog wait and then taking it off her. Reward her with praise or a treat. Hopefully she will remember two dozen of those a day when she makes a retrieve Quote Link to post
04fox8 168 Posted May 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Happened to end up with a denti-stick thing in my pocket the other night. As soon as she smelled it, dummy was spat out and forgotten about. This is the reason I don't agree with the 'treat' thing, but you hear of people who get the results from using this method. Vet's husband has a few springers, and she suggested the treat method as a last resort. Finally seem to be getting somewhere with her training, and this happens! Thanks for your suggestions. Quote Link to post
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