Overrunning On Lamp

[Casso 1,261]

Sorry , may be getting our wires crossed , I'm talking about sighted

[J Darcy 5,871]

Somethings odd here....how does the dog know to run the beam when it's never been out before.....

[flynndog 543]

Don't walk at it head on 9 times outta 10 they will jink the dog n get home ... just try walk up to it from side or behind and creep up as close as you can til dog sees it or it moves .... its confidence at the end of the day.

[gnipper 6,435]

Somethings odd here....how does the dog know to run the beam when it's never been out before.....

I think the op said they have been training it to go out for toys etc. Either way it's not doing too bad if it's going that far down the beam unsighted, my pup/dog is only just starting to do it and he's caught a few now.

[stormyboy 1,352]

All inexperienced dogs will run over a squatter-a moving target is the only thing that will get it chasing initially. If you cant find green rabbits.which isn't easy at this time of year,I would spend more time schooling with dummies and kick up some young squatters in September.

 

You can achieve a lot with a torch and dummy to get a pup watching the spot.

[Benny31 1]

ok thanks for the advice and the offer from look up of taking us out to show us the ropes, I may take you up on it yet.

 

Just to clarify, if I see rabbit at aboutb 100yrds do I quietly walk up to it keeping lamp on the whole time?

Or

Walk up about half way with lamp off then flick beam back on to see where its at?

 

I don't mind going out and just seeing what works best, but its handy to have at least a small idea what to do.....

[Ideation 8,216]

If it's me, and I think it's a good rabbit, i'll keep the lamp on it, when the dog is young, walk up, pulling the dogs head up, getting it to look, and only slip when the rabbits jumps up. It takes a while for most dogs to click to squatters. . . . my young bitch is still learning and has the habit of standing near them looking confused, whereas the older dog can be sent on a squatter from a hell of a distance. . . . it's just practice and experience.

[bo88y 46]

just cos the rabbits a sitter and you can see it doesnt mean the dog can, squat down to the dogs height, can you still see it, also the dog will be a bit excited, dont slip the dog till the rabbit moves and the dog sees it,,,, also dont listen to most of the shit spouted on htl, these amazing dogs that run all day and catch everything and can do anything, there are not realy that many around, some folk on here try to out lie each other, but are stupid enought to believe thier own lies ;-) your dog will come ok, dont doubt the dog

[stormyboy 1,352]

When you're walking a squatter up sweep the lamp over it slowly from side to side, it disorientates them and holds them longer I've found. And as Johnny m said try and get between the rabbit and home.

[morton 5,368]

Pace out 50 yards , some large dogs won't even be up to speed at that distance , it's not that far

It is for a rabbit.

[morton 5,368]

 

 

Let's get this straight, A rabbit 50 yards away in a big field is beyond a young dogs capabilities, not talking a pup here , a young dog coming up on 11 or 12 months old

How else are you going to get him running the beam if you don't practise it

He's talking about the dogs very first night out lamping rabbits

If you had a young dog on a slip and is sighted of a rabbit 50 yards away do you slip it yes or no,

 

No.

[morton 5,368]

 

 

Let's get this straight, A rabbit 50 yards away in a big field is beyond a young dogs capabilities, not talking a pup here , a young dog coming up on 11 or 12 months old

How else are you going to get him running the beam if you don't practise it

He's talking about the dogs very first night out lamping rabbits

If you had a young dog on a slip and is sighted of a rabbit 50 yards away do you slip it yes or no,

 

Id never release a young dog on anything i was not kicking up in front of it,literally.Rabbits take little catching for a second rate jukel,unless the jukel is young and inexperienced and the bunny is up to speed,a bunny up to speed dodges the attention of the best bred youngster,especially 50 yds away.

[paulsmithy83 567]

Agree morton with young dog do all you can to favour the dog and giving a rabbit 50 yards start is not doing so.

Op alot have gave you some great advice. Start again next season try do what alot have said by making it easier for dog and it and you will learn.....

[Casso 1,261]

I'm not sure what the fear is to let a young dog off on a rabbit 50 yards away . The dog might miss ?? If you pace out 50 yards and then weigh it up ,

 

Obviously if you are out just for a pup to catch its different than a pup learning the lamp , I don't take a pup out on the lamp unless I know the ability is there

 

Taking a young dog on the lamp should be about knowing it has the ability ,taking it nice and calm and making the dog believe that when you hiss it on there is something in the beam That's all the matters that the pup learns to run the beam , if the dog has the minerals to catch it will catch

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If your taking him out just to catch , just to say hes caught May not be the ideal start

What's the fear of a dog chasing a bunny at 50 yards , missing ,

[morton 5,368]

I'm not sure what the fear is to let a young dog off on a rabbit 50 yards away . The dog might miss ?? If you pace out 50 yards and then weigh it up ,

 

Obviously if you are out just for a pup to catch its different than a pup learning the lamp , I don't take a pup out on the lamp unless I know the ability is there

 

Taking a young dog on the lamp should be about knowing it has the ability ,taking it nice and calm and making the dog believe that when you hiss it on there is something in the beam That's all the matters that the pup learns to run the beam , if the dog has the minerals to catch it will catch

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If your taking him out just to catch , just to say hes caught May not be the ideal start

What's the fear of a dog chasing a bunny at 50 yards , missing ,

I want a sapling to have as much of an advantage as i can possibly give it,thus i await a kick-up before a longer slip,if that means going home without giving the dog a slip so be it,another night ill get my ideal run.The majority of dogs will not suffer from a few misses and wasted slips,yet building early confidence in the mutt always pays dividends.Once the dog is educated a little better id still pick easier runs,again it always pays dividends,a little later in the season id still not slip at 50yds when an easier slip is over the horizon.By the seasons end id expect the dog to deal with any slip i come upon,patience never spoils a dog.I live in an area where i can be selective,others don,t and may have to slip when they can and not when they would prefer to.