Benny31 1 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I took my bitch out for her first time on the lamp. I know its late to be taking her out, but I spent the last 6 months getting recall up to a decent level. So we got to the meadow and her first run was on a sitter at about 50yrds. I thought it was a dead cert, but she ran straight past it! This sort of thing happened every time I slipped her or rabbit made it to cover before she got close enough. I called it a night before I got too annoyed with her. I've done a fair bit of training with reflective dummy's etc and she's been pretty good. Different ball game on the real thing though. As well as running past them she spent a lot of time with her nose to the ground rather tan looking for rabbits. Is she just not cut out for it or do I just need to stick with it and hope she'll learn what to do? Any suggestions? Ah I should probably say it was my first time lamping too.... Quote Link to post
look up 406 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 We're east anglia are you.....I'm In Ipswich and if you want .you can come out with me and a mate on the lamp with your dog to get it started if you like ....atb 4 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I took my bitch out for her first time on the lamp. I know its late to be taking her out, but I spent the last 6 months getting recall up to a decent level. So we got to the meadow and her first run was on a sitter at about 50yrds. I thought it was a dead cert, but she ran straight past it! This sort of thing happened every time I slipped her or rabbit made it to cover before she got close enough. I called it a night before I got too annoyed with her. I've done a fair bit of training with reflective dummy's etc and she's been pretty good. Different ball game on the real thing though. As well as running past them she spent a lot of time with her nose to the ground rather tan looking for rabbits. Is she just not cut out for it or do I just need to stick with it and hope she'll learn what to do? Any suggestions? Ah I should probably say it was my first time lamping too.... If its taken you 6 months to get the re-call right it will take you 27 years to cover the rest of its education,it won,t be around then mucker,speed up the education process and get the initial slips down to a few easier yards,your input is negating the dogs ability,gen up mucker. Quote Link to post
sawyer 94 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Good offer mate. 1 Quote Link to post
foresterj 1,096 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 And you are a seasoned professional at every task you undertake for the fist time? Give it a chance it's a dog not a machine. 2 Quote Link to post
Qbgrey 4,089 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Put lamp on sitter.walk dog up whispering. Rabbit.rabbit.rabbit.once bunrab makes for home slip dog.repeat repeat.the dogs overrunning cause it don't know the sitters thier 1 Quote Link to post
Benny31 1 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 We're east anglia are you.....I'm In Ipswich and if you want .you can come out with me and a mate on the lamp with your dog to get it started if you like ....atb I'm in cambridge, I'll hopefully get out with her a few more times locally and see how we get on. Thanks for the offer though, going out with someone experienced would be ideal.... Quote Link to post
Benny31 1 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I took my bitch out for her first time on the lamp. I know its late to be taking her out, but I spent the last 6 months getting recall up to a decent level. So we got to the meadow and her first run was on a sitter at about 50yrds. I thought it was a dead cert, but she ran straight past it! This sort of thing happened every time I slipped her or rabbit made it to cover before she got close enough. I called it a night before I got too annoyed with her. I've done a fair bit of training with reflective dummy's etc and she's been pretty good. Different ball game on the real thing though. As well as running past them she spent a lot of time with her nose to the ground rather tan looking for rabbits. Is she just not cut out for it or do I just need to stick with it and hope she'll learn what to do? Any suggestions? Ah I should probably say it was my first time lamping too.... If its taken you 6 months to get the re-call right it will take you 27 years to cover the rest of its education,it won,t be around then mucker,speed up the education process and get the initial slips down to a few easier yards,your input is negating the dogs ability,gen up mucker.I got her at 6months old and she had some bad habits, hence why it took me ages getting recall.I'll stick with her though till she starts catching on the lamp. Day work is not a problem. Quote Link to post
Benny31 1 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Is 50yrds a bit too far away to be slipping? Quote Link to post
Joe1888 672 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 rome wasnt built in a day 1 Quote Link to post
Sammy666 49 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 pick your rabbits make it easy for the dog and make sure the dog sees them before you slip and don't over do it try and end every outing on a catch.it takes experience for a dog to take rabbits of there seats let him see them moving for the first wile and eventually he will learn there is something at the end of the beam. Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 As said walk her up to a sitter and put the rabbit up and dont slip her unless until she can see it moving,everything should come together then. Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 a very experienced bitch I used to lamp would always run the beam, even then shed overrun a squatter if he sat tight enough, rather than shine the beam straight up the field onto the rabbit and past it, hold the lamp in the air then shine it down on the rabbit using just the spot rather than the whole beam. Narrow it down from a 250m beam or whatever it is to a spot, once you and dog get the hang of it job done. Also when walking upto a squatter walk at it head on so it gives the dog that extra split second it may need...keep at it, you'll learn most of it yourself, I did. 1 Quote Link to post
Benny31 1 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Makes sense, cheers for the advice. I've got as much to learn as the dog..... Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Also a good dog will teach you a lot...........it's all about time. Quote Link to post
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