bird 9,992 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Don't underestimate the old collie x on foxes bud !! not underestimating ive had 3 them mate they do them , any lurcher will do few , its the more than few 7 days a week , then you see what I mean.? Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Don't underestimate the old collie x on foxes bud !! not underestimating ive had 3 them mate they do them , any lurcher will do few , its the more than few 7 days a week , then you see what I mean.?a dog that will do Charlie 7 nights a week is a dam good dog like I said earlyer a lot will back off as they are sore after a good night on them and that doesn't mean they are jackers you wouldn't fight night after night if you were getting the sh_t kicked out of you a good Charlie takes a lot out of a dog 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,992 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Seen dogs not entertain a little fox yet would hang on for dear life on a big brute of a Red Deer at least 3 or 4 times its weight,getting dragged and kicked to pulp..strange animals are dogs,one things for certain there are no guarantees in this game that's it andy , they get can get killed by bloody big red deer , but go in hell for leather at them, but little 18 lb fox they hang back lol, yeh deff strange animals are dogs mate .lol Quote Link to post
bird 9,992 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Don't underestimate the old collie x on foxes bud !! not underestimating ive had 3 them mate they do them , any lurcher will do few , its the more than few 7 days a week , then you see what I mean.?a dog that will do Charlie 7 nights a week is a dam good dog like I said earlyer a lot will back off as they are sore after a good night on them and that doesn't mean they are jackers you wouldn't fight night after night if you were getting the sh_t kicked out of you a good Charlie takes a lot out of a dog true, ive only really seen one dog do them night after night, that was tug as ive said before about him , and not seen many like him before or after . Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Don't underestimate the old collie x on foxes bud !! not underestimating ive had 3 them mate they do them , any lurcher will do few , its the more than few 7 days a week , then you see what I mean.?a dog that will do Charlie 7 nights a week is a dam good dog like I said earlyer a lot will back off as they are sore after a good night on them and that doesn't mean they are jackers you wouldn't fight night after night if you were getting the sh_t kicked out of you a good Charlie takes a lot out of a dog true, ive only really seen one dog do them night after night, that was tug as ive said before about him , and not seen many like him before or after . I'd rather do Charlie's then rabbits preban of course as they are dam good sport Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Don't underestimate the old collie x on foxes bud !! not underestimating ive had 3 them mate they do them , any lurcher will do few , its the more than few 7 days a week , then you see what I mean.?there ain't many dogs that will do Fox 7 days a week.in fact theres not many men that would either,I certainly wouldn't work a sore dog too often . they usually get bit and swell ,not a good idea to take a dog out the.night after getting a face full 3 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,561 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 It's down to knowing the dog then not pushing it stupidly it's being a good dog man then not pushing a dog to breaking point why would you want to break your dog? 1 Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I'm sure some dogs Would do it without taking too much stick, but some situations it was unavoidable. Good dogs would bust a gut to catch. Sometimes, especially on fence line they'd have to lunge and grab anywhere. Then they'd take the stick. Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Dogs that a lot of stick is when they are 2 up one of them always gets bit Quote Link to post
redquil 219 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Regarding bull x's. When you look at what the bull side of the cross is bred for and what is expected of a goodun then killing a fox should be relatively easy in theory. Yet in practise many don't make the grade as in all lurcher breeding. How many time's have you heard about jackers and how many of the macho lot double n even treble their dogs up on fox. Pre ban good single handed fox dogs wernt as common as what some think.Plenty of dogs would muck in in company but on their own different story. And yes some of them collie X's belter's. Ask some of the macho lot today what line of bull blood is in their lurcher and most ain't got a clue. A lot being bred from any old bulldog that's ragged some poor mongrel about the park and not from a true and proven dog.Good single handed dogs that caught and killed a lot of foxes over a season weren't that common. 4 Quote Link to post
jamie_rob 215 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 An elder told me he classes a single hand dog that can catch a daytime fox. If it can do it course it and catch it single hand then its worth the title not like folk catching them on a lamp then saying single hand. 3 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,561 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Watching a dog cast hunt rise course and kill a fox then retrieve it that's a sight to see !! 5 Quote Link to post
blackmaggie 3,377 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) was just going to mention you matey and them hills alot would depend on what kind of ground and numbers your taking rob some are more suited to a certain task and day or night i cant see the difference theres fox dogs and dogs that can take fox Edited March 29, 2015 by blackmaggie Quote Link to post
Quarter bull 240 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Regarding bull x's. When you look at what the bull side of the cross is bred for and what is expected of a goodun then killing a fox should be relatively easy in theory. Yet in practise many don't make the grade as in all lurcher breeding. How many time's have you heard about jackers and how many of the macho lot double n even treble their dogs up on fox. Pre ban good single handed fox dogs wernt as common as what some think.Plenty of dogs would muck in in company but on their own different story. And yes some of them collie X's belter's. Ask some of the macho lot today what line of bull blood is in their lurcher and most ain't got a clue. A lot being bred from any old bulldog that's ragged some poor mongrel about the park and not from a true and proven dog.Good single handed dogs that caught and killed a lot of foxes over a season weren't that common. Would have to disagree there mate, I know the bull that's in my we line an it has served me an others fine for 13/14 years atvb Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I know.a small holder that owns a German Shepherd that is a prolific fox killer this bitch can be trusted with everything so much as he let's her out and she just has a mooch on her own among sheep goats and farmyard fowl he recons she takes more fox a year than he shoots I recon he should put a greyhound over her but he wont 1 Quote Link to post
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