leethedog 3,071 Posted March 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 IMO I would say to anyone who dosnt have the foresight,long term plan ,to stay away from lines as enough have been bastardised by those with only the here and now in mind .Buy a worker ,hopefully it will work then get it neutered .why neutered mate honest question Quote Link to post
tinytiger 828 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 so you cant breed it and so you can kick yourself if it turns out any good.didnt you know only experts are allowed breed terriers. 1 Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 it be harder to get a pup if you are going to get it neuterd I for 1 wouldn't give a pup if I knew that 1 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Keep your dogs for own use, big money and work rate , two of the opposite. That's how breeds and lines are ruined. Service of your stud, wouldn't bother unless the are genuine again even scarcer, Quote Link to post
stevie g 2005 125 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 so you cant breed it and so you can kick yourself if it turns out any good.didnt you know only experts are allowed breed terriers. Tiny there's a lot of so called experts on this site lol Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 It was written tongue in cheek mate .Refers to the breeding of two opposite types .I'm no expert by any stretch but what annoys me is the haphazard breeding that goes on with no forward plan . 1 Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 What do you mean by forward plan FD? Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 As in line breeding I imagine? Not just put this on that and that on that And hope for the ( as some like to say ) 1 Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 What do you mean by forward plan FD? id guess thinking 2, 3 and 4 generations down the line, what y0u can breed to improve or maintain standards 1 Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Yeah I get that. Thing is, how many keep a kennel of line bred fully 'tested' terriers they know the full genealogy of, I mean many years of, to be able to reproduce what they have consistently? Thats what a line is-anything else is scatter breeding! 2 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 You've just answered your own question .Anyone can do it ,all you need is good root stock and the strict stockman ship of test and cull .You ask how many have this in kennel ,mate there's loads about but do your homework first before committing .Self restraint when considering breeding mate .In the early years you need to study what's worked for other people then you will realise what works for you .Scatter breeding due to ignorance is no longer an exceptable excuse with the in and outs of line breeding plastered all over here . Hopefully someone will put up their own line plan soon . Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,208 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) this is what worked for me ..R was a bitch N and T1 where related ...D was related but a bit rather back.T was a double bred grandson of R from R to TB 30 years , shortest route 4 gens i'm not putting the dogs names up they end up getting hung on all sorts Edited April 3, 2015 by Glyn..... 4 Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 this is what worked for me ..R was a bitch N and T1 where related ...D was related but a bit rather back.T was a double bred grandson of R from R to TB 30 years , shortest route 4 gens i'm not putting the dogs names up they end up getting hung on all sorts Nice. Did the line throw up any physical faults Glyn? Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,208 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 i did have a few and could well have a few yet , i found when they get tight bred i couldn't risk father/daughter , mother son or full brother sister without physical defects, even the healthy ones from such mating's needed outcross ,so no point in breeding them , i like half brother half sister mating although mine will also be cousins as well its a trial and error , i think breeding a type would be easy breeding workers is hard work with a good pinch of luck 1 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 i did have a few and could well have a few yet , i found when they get tight bred i couldn't risk father/daughter , mother son or full brother sister without physical defects, even the healthy ones from such mating's needed outcross ,so no point in breeding them , i like half brother half sister mating although mine will also be cousins as well its a trial and error , i think breeding a type would be easy breeding workers is hard work with a good pinch of luck what sort of defects would they be honest question not a dig Quote Link to post
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