Malt 379 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 What's the Snp policies on shooting and huntingWorse than Labours were on the subjects IIRC.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,812 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 What's the Snp policies on shooting and hunting No English allowed to shoot Scotch Birds and Beasties! Europeans more than welcome.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted April 2, 2015 Report Share Posted April 2, 2015 I get the impression that lots of people just vote for a party out of shear hatred for the others Policies don't matter its just a case of I'm not voting for those b*****ds even if the end results leave you worse off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 I think many in Scotland and here in the north east don't even know why they hate the tories Because their dad did, and his dad did and his dads dad did. Oh and because of that bl**dy Thatcher stealing milk and closing pits, blah blah blah "closing the pits blah blah blah" Obviously you don't understand what that actually means to the communities round here, along with destroying the steel industry its killed the area, i wouldn't advise making comments like that in a mining community, sorry ex mining community. I used "nonce" to get across the feeling for the tories, i wasn't saying "all tories are nonces" although its looking like plenty of them are, heath, hague, britton, clark........all been accused, but being suppressed at the moment, cabinet re shuffle so close to an election lmao........shuffling the nonces out. Seems your biggest worry is hunting bans and handgun bans under labour, the tories haven't done anything about that have they, like immigration, the have forced people into low paid jobs, and working people into food banks, and then to add insult to injury given the rich big tax breaks, as well as the cheap labour, i could go on. Before you accuse me of "defending labour/voting labour, think again mate, my opinion of labour.....traitorous scum, same goes for unions, they all work for the same people, with the same goals, f***ing obvious. Around here where's that exactly? Inferring anyone is a nonce is a pretty serious accusation maybe not around your parts maybe but it is to me. My biggest concern is not handguns or hunting that's my pastime, my biggest concern is the well being of my family and those I care about, that is why I wouldn't vote labour for all the tea in China. If we're having a dick measuring contest on how we've been hit in the past well my brother, my uncle, my brother in law, my best mates father and uncle and my mother were all working in the steel industry and were casualties of the collapse of the steel industry, they however didn't spend the next 30 years staring into a pint in the miners welfare club being victims they got on with it and found other jobs. I heard on the radio recently a women who was representing Goldthorpe complaining that business was absent from the area and even the banks had pulled out of Goldthorpe. Well what the f*ck do they expect will happen, burning an effigy of Margret Thatcher whe she died partying in the street which was broadcast around the world?? It's insanity move on. I won't accuse you of voting for anyone, for you are the worse of them all, one who complains and kicks and screems for the wrongs of government but does nothing to change it. If I remember rightly your way is not to vote at all. 100 top UK businesses today signed a letter to say a vote for a labour would be detrimental to the economic recovery of the country, now I'm just having a stab in the dark here but im guessing your not one of these captains of industry. S.Yorkshire...... You understand what i meant by the nonce comment, im not going over that again. "Dick measuring contest" you sound like norman tebbit, did you're family bike it to the new jobs? The woman on the radio wasn't wrong about Goldthorpe, or the coalfield areas in general, like i said they've killed it off. As for burning effigies of thatcher, did you miss my "badly educated" comment? To stupid not to play into the media's hands, i never heard anyone say much about thatchers demise tbh, not much point in dwelling on her after her own party stabbed her in the back, just another puppet politician. Iv'e always voted in general elctions, this time will be the first time i haven't, and i might yet depending who's standing, could be an independent candidate worth my vote? non of your f***ing business whether i do or don't though is it. 100 companies that are benefiting from cheap labour, not paying their company or personal taxes, and getting tax breaks on top of that are signing the petition against labour, f**k me iv'e found a genuine clown this time Been self employed for 30 years, had a company with 12 people on the books and about the same as regular sub contractors, think again sunshine Ps just keep ignoring the bad points i brought up about the tories, its as good as an answer. No my family didn't bike to their jobs they just worked hard and got on with it, and I'm very proud of them for doing so. Well done you for employing 12 people I can see where you and the top 100 UK a companies have some synergy, perhaps they could learn a thing or two from you? "Well done you for employing 12 people I can see where you and the top 100 UK a companies have some synergy, perhaps they could learn a thing or two from you?" Well sorry i'm not Richard Branson mate, but the point is you've got me down for some kind of whinger that's never got off his arse and stood on his own feet, not the case. And i think they could learn something from me, like "don't treat your employees like f***ing shite" for eg. How many times have you re mortgaged your house to set up a business and help 20+ people put bread on their tables? But don't bother answering, anyone who thinks zero hours contracts are a good thing, and believes what people say on the BBC cant be a full shilling. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,812 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Am I missing something regarding these zero hours contracts... surely if you are searching for a job and you don't want a zero hours contract you don't apply for a job that has one! ??? They suit some people so leave them be. There are plenty of jobs and contracts out there that don't suit me, have a guess what I do... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Am I missing something regarding these zero hours contracts... surely if you are searching for a job and you don't want a zero hours contract you don't apply for a job that has one! ??? They suit some people so leave them be. There are plenty of jobs and contracts out there that don't suit me, have a guess what I do... Ill guess what you do............read to many sas books, then say things like "brains on pavements" then say "iv'e never had a fight" lmfao...........clown...........your opinion don't count for much with me BH, ill be honest. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,812 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Am I missing something regarding these zero hours contracts... surely if you are searching for a job and you don't want a zero hours contract you don't apply for a job that has one! ??? They suit some people so leave them be. There are plenty of jobs and contracts out there that don't suit me, have a guess what I do... Ill guess what you do............read to many sas books, then say things like "brains on pavements" then say "iv'e never had a fight" lmfao...........clown...........your opinion don't count for much with me BH, ill be honest. Upset you have I? LOL. I can't ever remember reading an 'SAS' book in total honesty. You know best though. LOL Edited April 4, 2015 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) mate in some areas that whats mostly going, sometimes the job centre are forcing people into those kind of jobs... i know a young lad that went to work for a biscuit factory, was about 10-15 miles away from his house, he would drive in every morning, many times as he approached the car park would get a phone call, not needed today.. he was walking away with f**k all at the end of the week..... Edited April 4, 2015 by Joe1888 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,812 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) mate in some areas that whats mostly going, sometimes the job centre are forcing people into those kind of jobs... i know a young lad that went to work for a biscuit factory, was about 10-15 miles away from his house, he would drive in every morning, many times as he approached the car park would get a phone call, not needed today.. he was walking away with f**k all at the end of the week..... Thanks for filling me in on that joe. But is the answer to ban contracts that don't suit some or create an economy that has plentiful jobs forcing employers to offer more favourable contracts? I rarely see further legislation as a long term benefit. Just strikes me as playing to populist politics. Also, if people are being forced to take jobs that don't pay an effective wage then surely it's the system that needs addressing. Why attack the employers? We need an economy that stronger favours the workers, legislating against employers rarely helps that. Edited April 4, 2015 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Personally I think the whole zero hour contact thing is a convenient way to make jobless figures look good. The Tories crow about how many people are in work, but the true figure of actual jobs out there is being masked by the amount of people sharing what would be a much lower number of jobs if the positions filled were all full time. I doubt the benefit bill has gone down much at all in truth because the people who have been forced into part time work that don't suit them are being propped up by tax credits. This in turn allows the big employers to pay a minimun wage that is nowhere near enough for people to live on. If it wasnt for the tax credit system they'd be forced to pay a living wage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,306 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Most of the zero hour contracts are being used by employment agencys who treat their workers like shit in some jobs that are only the jobs available in some areas like warehouse work and factory work and its time they were brought to book pimping off peoples hard work. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 Most of the zero hour contracts are being used by employment agencys who treat their workers like shit in some jobs that are only the jobs available in some areas like warehouse work and factory work and its time they were brought to book pimping off peoples hard work. All part of this unelected governments smash and grab plan, it looks like some people don't mind if they f**k the country up so long as the money goes to the select few, they just don't want labour to f**k it up and distribute it a bit more evenly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 zero hours is ok when you retire from work then go back part time for pin money to top up your pension, its no good when you have a family or in my case myself to support 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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