Falklands 2 On The Way?

[Brigzy 1,298]

Don't forget, for years Labour wanted Thatcher tried as a war criminal for ordering the sinking of the Belgrano ! What did the traitorous c**ts want, for us to abandon the people of the Falklands without a fight ? One of the proudest moments was seeing HMS Conqueror sailing into port with the skull and crossbones flying, signifying the sinking of an enemy ship, the Belgrano !

[walshie 2,804]

If Labour had their way, they'd give away the Falklands, Gibraltar, anywhere not attached to the mainland, Wales, Scotland, most of Central London to the Arabs and Russians, and we'd be left with a small area just outside of Milton Keynes.

 

Let's hope the spineless twats don't win in May.

[Malt 379]

I'm not sure it would be as easy as people think, the logistics of war in the South Atlantic are horrendous. We made great use of the Harriers last time but we haven't got that capability anymore. Conventional aircraft need a runway that could easily be attacked from the mainland. No air defence is ever 100%, lets face it, the Argies got prop driven Pucara past our defences last time without much trouble. We can't even wheel out the Vulcans and Victors now, they've nearly all been made into beer cans!

The single type 45 destroyer thats there on station now could track and engage every single argie military aircraft they own. All at the same time.

[J_Edwards 70]

The Islanders are British, and identify themselves as British. Argentina is after the oil, they need the money to bring their economy up to scratch. For them to have another crack at it would be bang out of order.

 

A fellow I used to know was at Goose Green. He's in his late 50s, possibly early 60s now, and he is still seriously ripped. I really wouldn't wan't to get on the wrong side of him.

 

I imagine British troops have superior training, as well as equipment. The Typhoon is no doubt one of the most technologically advanced planes there is, and if technology in the early 90s could guide a missile through a ventilation hatch on a bunker, I dread to think what things are capable of in this day and age.

 

My only fear is the lack of political will, should the Argies try it on. I imagine Cameron and Farage would go for it, but I have serious doubts about Milliband. It could be Appeasement all over again

[riohog 5,701]

i was a merchant seaman at the time do you know there was something like 50 odd merhant tankers involved ,not to mention 20 odd rfa tankers and supply ships sevicing the war ships and troops they booted allthe foreghn crews of the bp tankers and put british seaman on them .i can tell you i am 62 yrs old and the s/atlantic is nofun , god bless those men that lost there lives . i was then and still am proud to be british , im toold now but would go down there again if i had to

[trenchfoot 4,243]

every time somebody mentions the falklands war, I get this ringing in my ears!

[Born Hunter 17,763]

I'm not sure it would be as easy as people think, the logistics of war in the South Atlantic are horrendous. We made great use of the Harriers last time but we haven't got that capability anymore. Conventional aircraft need a runway that could easily be attacked from the mainland. No air defence is ever 100%, lets face it, the Argies got prop driven Pucara past our defences last time without much trouble. We can't even wheel out the Vulcans and Victors now, they've nearly all been made into beer cans!

 

I'm not sure it would be as easy as people think, the logistics of war in the South Atlantic are horrendous. We made great use of the Harriers last time but we haven't got that capability anymore. Conventional aircraft need a runway that could easily be attacked from the mainland. No air defence is ever 100%, lets face it, the Argies got prop driven Pucara past our defences last time without much trouble. We can't even wheel out the Vulcans and Victors now, they've nearly all been made into beer cans!

The single type 45 destroyer thats there on station now could track and engage every single argie military aircraft they own. All at the same time.

Also, 'I think' RAF Tornadoes are capable of carrying out black buck type raids, this time with guided munitions (a similar op was carried out when bombing Libya). And we have sub launched cruise missiles with which we could strike mainland targets. The Royal Navy would/could leave any invading force completely isolated from the mainland.

 

All that is predicated on them actually being able to invade in the first place.

Edited March 24, 2015 by Born Hunter

[riohog 5,701]

its a broard statement but i dont think any other country could have pulled it off apart from the britts logisticly it was a masterstroke.

 

 

jusy a fkn shame they parked them boats in san carlos water ,, poor fkrs were sitting ducks

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

Remember as a kid our class going up to my mates grandparents to welcome home their son and my mates uncle when he got home from the Falklands

He was a young Marine of maybe 18-19 years old serving with 3 commando I think ?

This lad was and still is a Gentelman

Never once have I heard of him lifting his hand in anger to any man.

A really sound bloke but he obviously had the inner strength and minerals to firstly pass the Marines Commando training when it was probably a lot tougher than today and then at a young age to go do his bit for his Country in probably one of the last fixed bayonets type conflicts.

Another bloke from our Village also served in the Marines at the same time but he was a bit older and sadly now passed.

Another of the younger lads family also served in the Marines late 80's early 90's

A young lad is maybe 2 years into his Para career

And close to getting picked for the GB tobogganing team.

 

Hats off two them all and every serving soldier ' sailor ' airman past ' present and future.

The last massed bayonet charge by British forces was a company of PWRR in Iraq 2008.

[Lid 194]

I was at RAF Cranwell when the invasion happened. It came on the news in the mess TV and some one said it looked a bit boring and asked to switch channels and as no-one said anything, he did. I also remember being at a dinner a bit later and visiting officer made a speech in which he couldn't tell us the runway was being bombed that night (so he didn't).

 

Yes oil and minerals all along, but I agree we didn't look particularly strong in that conflict, though the distance didn't make it easy. We'd better make ourselves more ready this time. Not cutting the defence budget would be a good help!

[The Seeker 3,048]

If Labour had their way, they'd give away the Falklands, Gibraltar, anywhere not attached to the mainland, Wales, Scotland, most of Central London to the Arabs and Russians, and we'd be left with a small area just outside of Milton Keynes.

 

Let's hope the spineless twats don't win in May.

^^^ This

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,923]

I seen a line here tHat rattled my cage there...

 

We have never had our arses kicked, we stand strong, bloodied and bruised but we are NEVER out of any fight

 

I stand by a quote from the football factory, "we're an island race, being on the front line is what we do best"

 

No other military was capable of going onto those islands and kicking them off like that, the superpowers may have firepower but when it comes to sheer hard bloodied soldiering on your own two feet, no one can hold a light to the British infantry and their teeth arms. You ask a joe public in the street to name a regular aRmy unit, locales aside , they will invariably say 2 Or 3 Para, there is a very simple reason for that, cause since ww2 the British airborne have came out swinging everywhere they have went. And every soldier always has that little tinge of regret at not having that blue badge on their right arm .....

 

 

On my arm I wear blue wings,

It's no big deal in the shape of things.

They don't pay the mortgage , or even the rent,

Outside as civilians, they're of no consequence

As part of our uniform, For you like your tie,

As you gaze upon them with uneducated eye.

For those men that wear them, their hearts they will break,

For one day inevitably , our wings they will take.

They call us outdated, that we've run out course,

No longer in need of our proud airborne force.

Our fore fathers wore them as they stood in the door,

And alighted to battle during the war,

Europe , the Balkans, Afghan and Ulster,

When diplomacy fails it's the airborne they muster.

The sons of St Michael , the men in maroon,

Have answered the light, that heralds their doom.

The badge stands for courage and it's all very well,

As its paved in maroon, the dark road to hell.

Our berets are peaked ,shaped and proud,

Our smocks are aggressive, they've been through the clouds.

And those men that have worn them, have seen bigger things,

For on their arms, there lies blue wings.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

f***ing Russians again!

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/11493134/Russia-questions-Britains-claim-to-the-Falklands-as-garrison-reinforced.html

 

Britain will send two troop-carrying Chinook helicopters and new surface-to-air missile system to the Falkland Islands, amid fears Russia could be arming the Argentine government.

 

Michael Fallon, the Defence Secretary, said the Islands will be ready to repel “any potential threat” following reports that the Kremlin is preparing to lease 12 Su-24 long range bombers to Buenos Aires in exchange for beef and wheat.

 

It came as Russia questioned the legitimacy of Britain’s claim on the Islands.

[j1985 1,984]

[Born Hunter 17,763]

 

It has the potential but it's never been tested in wartime conditions. No weapons system is infallible and we must never forget the MODs propensity for cutting corners to save money. We all assumed we would walk over the Argies last time but it was actually a close run thing, we lost a lot of young men and a hell of a lot of valuable equipment. We sunk the Belgrano, how many ships did we lose? We shot down aircraft but lost some ourselves. I believe the reason we won that war was more to do with the professionalism of our soldiers compared to the Argentinian conscripts and less to do with the equipment. I hope it never happens again but if it does you can bet that the Argies will plan a bit more carefully next time and if it is about oil and future fuel supplies they might be a bit more committed.

In the event, I hope our destroyers are the best in the world IF we ever need to use them.

 

We didn't just sink the Belgrano, those three torpedoes effectively sank the entire Argentine Navy!

 

The British task force fought a war on the back foot on the other side of the planet, in the back yard of the enemy, at a time when guided bombs were in their infancy of operational use and without loosing a single battle.

 

It was a piece of military excellence.