walshie 2,804 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Is this just a bit of sabre rattling or something more sinister? I wonder if it was about oil all along. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/11491135/Britain-to-increase-Falklands-garrison.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,776 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Don't make me laugh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Valuable input there BH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,776 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 LOL. Okay, do you really think Argentina are a threat? I just can't see them risking round two when the difference in capability between the two of us is even larger now than it was back then. Yeah, we haven't got carriers, but we don't need carriers to defend the islands. I wonder how much of this is politically motivated as a cheap way to appease the traditionally Defence minded Conservatives in the UK who feel disillusioned with the continued cuts and weakening of our armed forces. Better? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bit better. 6/10. I don't think Argentina are a threat, but THEY might think they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,776 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bit better. 6/10. I don't think Argentina are a threat, but THEY might think they are. Typhoons and subs will bring them to their senses if so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,776 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I remember seeing a documentary of the war and apparently Thatcher called a meeting and head of armed services told her if we let the Falklands go we could be fighting a lot more wars to maintain other colonies. Argentina took their country from the native people of south America don't know why they think its their right. Argentina was founded on an act of genocide! It's a bit f***ing rich them trying to take the moral high ground on some Islands we colonised with little effort at a time when everybody was island grabbing in the name of king and country. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,714 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 wll they wont be sending the belgrano! ,unless theyraise it from davey jones locker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Hooker 185 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Don't be fooled into thinking that we won that conflict easily. We almost lost. I saw a brilliant documentary on it last year. One of the main reasons the Argies didn't sink a lot more of our fleet was that their bombs, which, from memory were either made by us or our allies, weren't armed properly, and although they struck our ships, they didn't explode. They wont be making that mistake twice. I reckon they learned a lot of lessons from Falklands 1, and another scrap could end in us getting our arses kicked. I wonder what the Yanks would do if there was another one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Can't add any more than BH has added really. The troops, squadron of Typhoons, sub and type 45 destroyer that are there now could probably cope with the whole argentine armed forces, never mind any force they could get anywhere near the islands.. I agree and China are bound to support them, regarding their take on hong Kong Tibet and various other disputes. Russia would probably support them to if they were too busy trying to take over several of their neighboursHong Kong was always part of China, we only had a 100 year lease on it.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,776 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Don't be fooled into thinking that we won that conflict easily. We almost lost. I saw a brilliant documentary on it last year. One of the main reasons the Argies didn't sink a lot more of our fleet was that their bombs, which, from memory were either made by us or our allies, weren't armed properly, and although they struck our ships, they didn't explode. They wont be making that mistake twice. I reckon they learned a lot of lessons from Falklands 1, and another scrap could end in us getting our arses kicked. I wonder what the Yanks would do if there was another one. If I recall they didn't set the fuses on their bombs properly (can't remember the details) so a lot of them didn't go off. Also they were f***ing terrified of our Harriers and their superior sidewinders so daren't get close enough to the carrier with their Exocets to give even a hope of a hit. Even if they had effective bombs I can't imagine it'd of changed much, but I can't remember off hand how many/which of our ships they actually hit. Not that that would make any bearing in a modern conflict. Our modern air defence destroyers would take care of anything the Argy air force came to battle with. The yanks under the Obama administration would probably publicly condemn us! Quite a stark difference from promising us the loan of a carrier if needed back in 82! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 The Yanks would have to appear to hold a neutral stance because of their commitments to mutual defence treaties with both the UK (NATO) and whatever the one they've got with the South Americans. Otherwise techically, any attack on the Falklands would be an attack on sovereign UK soil so the US would be bound by the NATO charter of mutual defence to intercede on our behalf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,714 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Don't be fooled into thinking that we won that conflict easily. We almost lost. I saw a brilliant documentary on it last year. One of the main reasons the Argies didn't sink a lot more of our fleet was that their bombs, which, from memory were either made by us or our allies, weren't armed properly, and although they struck our ships, they didn't explode. They wont be making that mistake twice. I reckon they learned a lot of lessons from Falklands 1, and another scrap could end in us getting our arses kicked. I wonder what the Yanks would do if there was another one. one or two of them black silent boats will sort them .run silent run deep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Yes bad example there are other Chinese disputes to do with Japan just couldn't remember names you pedantic sod lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Don't be fooled into thinking that we won that conflict easily. We almost lost. I saw a brilliant documentary on it last year. One of the main reasons the Argies didn't sink a lot more of our fleet was that their bombs, which, from memory were either made by us or our allies, weren't armed properly, and although they struck our ships, they didn't explode. They wont be making that mistake twice. I reckon they learned a lot of lessons from Falklands 1, and another scrap could end in us getting our arses kicked. I wonder what the Yanks would do if there was another one. These things happen in most conflict..if we'd done that or if they had done that...the outcome might have been different Mistakes were made by us in the position of our ships In the end we defeated them and I would have full confidence of the same outcome if it happened today 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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