The Best Coursing Blood In The Country

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481]

Wasn't there a real good bitch called class out of dancer x ash the pure saluki aswell, when you look at the small amout of pure salukis that are bred off to well bred coursing dogs compared to the vast amount of well bred coursing dogs x coursing dogs that are bred it seems to me that there is a higher success rate of producing very decent dogs out of pures probably due to hybrid vigour because most of today's coursing dogs are to closely bred and are in need of some fresh blood, saying all that I dont think it is always best to breed off pures but would sometimes prefere to cross 2 very good saluki lurchers together that were totally unrelated or only very distantly related as this is how most of the champion dogs are bred, when you start trying to recreate a champion by line and inbreeding it never seems to work and seem to get progressively worse threw to much inbreeding, so outcrossing seems to be the best option to me, but that's just my views and I'm probably talking a load of shite

[trenchfoot 4,243]

If you want to outcross, someone, somewhere will have had to use a pure.

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481]

If you want to outcross, someone, somewhere will have had to use a pure.

you can still outcross using 2 unrelated coursing lurchers

[jamie7344 250]

Oh here he goes with his hybrid vigour lol hurry up and get some fens are far I haven't seen ya with any hybrid vigour yet lol and desert bred I've had 2 litters of pups in my life lol

[FERRETBOY 680]

romeo x fly (my bitch)... now that would be a cracking litter.

Edited April 27, 2015 by REW

[jamie7344 250]

What was the worst litter of pups seagull produced anyone know lolol

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

If you want to outcross, someone, somewhere will have had to use a pure.

you can still outcross using 2 unrelated coursing lurchers

 

very true, but to dismiss outright using a pure saluki in any breeding program sounds foolhardy to me. Its what folk were saying all those years ago when they said they were just plodders and thick. and that the dogs of the time were nigh on perfect, and just needed breeding close

[jamie7344 250]

The hard works been done years ago best 2 best is still producing the best dogs in the country

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

If you had a top class coursing bred bitch... What would be the benefit of putting a pure saluki over her? Surely you would play it safe by using another very well bred dog which was doing the job..?

 

Probably me not knowing f a about anything, and admittedly never seen a pure run..but I always thought that someone might use a pure if their bitch lacked wind... Or was just an average bitch and hoping to get lucky?

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481]

Blondie, Maggie, Snowey, caulfields joe, dancer, belle, taz, lucky, salty some of the best dogs ever all bred from outcrossing not inbreeding, got to tell you something

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,481]

If you had a top class coursing bred bitch... What would be the benefit of putting a pure saluki over her? Surely you would play it safe by using another very well bred dog which was doing the job..?

 

Probably me not knowing f a about anything, and admittedly never seen a pure run..but I always thought that someone might use a pure if their bitch lacked wind... Or was just an average bitch and hoping to get lucky?

all I am saying is it's a good job someone used pures at some point or none of these dogs today would be what they are without saluki blood in them and I think it needs to be reintroduced now and again as some fresh blood and it is going back to the base of what made all of these dogs good to start with

[two crows 3,342]

 

 

If you want to outcross, someone, somewhere will have had to use a pure.

you can still outcross using 2 unrelated coursing lurchers

 

very true, but to dismiss outright using a pure saluki in any breeding program sounds foolhardy to me. Its what folk were saying all those years ago when they said they were just plodders and thick. and that the dogs of the time were nigh on perfect, and just needed breeding close

 

back in the seventys if you wanted to catch hares you first crossed or put saluki in your lurchers. it had to start that way some of my early stuff killed hares all over the midlands they were saluki to beddy crosses. later first crosses if someone did not do it no one have nothing you would still be f***ing around with deerhound crosses atb two crows.

[Desmond 480]

When michael bred tilly he asked me what i think about using flint the saluki over a 1 out of 3 bitch at best,he said shes got no go after 2 hares,i told him not to bother lining the bitch and forget about it ,then produced a bitch that in my opinion could have held her own in any era and i would of backed her to beat any of the dogs mentioned on this topic so the moral of the story is please ya f***ing self and put the work in

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

 

If you had a top class coursing bred bitch... What would be the benefit of putting a pure saluki over her? Surely you would play it safe by using another very well bred dog which was doing the job..?

Probably me not knowing f a about anything, and admittedly never seen a pure run..but I always thought that someone might use a pure if their bitch lacked wind... Or was just an average bitch and hoping to get lucky?

all I am saying is it's a good job someone used pures at some point or none of these dogs today would be what they are without saluki blood in them and I think it needs to be reintroduced now and again as some fresh blood and it is going back to the base of what made all of these dogs good to start with

Maybe if you feel you "need to reintroduce saluki blood", say by putting a pure over a coursing bred bitch, then maybe the bitch isn't worth being bred from in the first place? Like I say I'm not the most experienced on the subject to say the least... But like Jamie said the hard work has been done for us?

[Desmond 480]

 

 

If you had a top class coursing bred bitch... What would be the benefit of putting a pure saluki over her? Surely you would play it safe by using another very well bred dog which was doing the job..?

Probably me not knowing f a about anything, and admittedly never seen a pure run..but I always thought that someone might use a pure if their bitch lacked wind... Or was just an average bitch and hoping to get lucky?

all I am saying is it's a good job someone used pures at some point or none of these dogs today would be what they are without saluki blood in them and I think it needs to be reintroduced now and again as some fresh blood and it is going back to the base of what made all of these dogs good to start with

Maybe if you feel you "need to reintroduce saluki blood", say by putting a pure over a coursing bred bitch, then maybe the bitch isn't worth being bred from in the first place? Like I say I'm not the most experienced on the subject to say the least... But like Jamie said the hard work has been done for us?

 

Read above at my post,i thought the same :laugh: :laugh: