uru 341 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) I think hand walking is best too.It breaks up the monotony of the constant repition of a mill,".if " one were only using a mill. But I think the walking is good(better)because of the stimulus it provides sights,sounds,scents plus the bond and feel of the tug on the lead etc. But the also think a mill would provide a great additive/alternative on the convenience for those certain days or locales where a man is not able to get out as he would like(in the point of exercising your dog). Edited March 21, 2015 by uru Quote Link to post
jigsaw 11,863 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 someone have a lash at these and let us know how good they are, Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 681 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 They look smart. Although, why wouldn't you just buy the bigger one and let all of your dogs on it ? Can some be too long or something, or is it just cost? Quote Link to post
HPR 1,160 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 We're these at the bulldog show last year? If so there very loud and poorly made, if anyone is after this kind of mill look at HR mills from holland there a world of difference but there a little more expensive but you get what your paying for!!!no these havent been any where yet there certainly not poorly made far from it. and the noise was one thing concentrated on you'll never get one totally quiet but these are quiet. hes had three come from holland for them. ive seen hr's stuff and there not as good as these and more money. Quote Link to post
HPR 1,160 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 They look smart. Although, why wouldn't you just buy the bigger one and let all of your dogs on it ? Can some be too long or something, or is it just cost? no different mate just cost Quote Link to post
HPR 1,160 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Looks very well built, genuine question but where is the benefit for a working terrier as apposed to sufficient exercise on walks etc. I would have thought they would be okay for building cv fitness but not going to be as effective as out and about as the gait/ movement patterns are so ltd to going forward ie no twisting and turning atbpeople go on about walking bike work thats ok for endurance but you cant walk a dog fit . youve got to add sprint work . its the same as the mill you couldnt just use one of them to get ya dog fit. you neec a combo of them all . you dont see a boxer rugby player etc just going for a jog and walk. they do sprint work . theyve got to to get wind . this is why i think a lot of dogs fail because there not fit enough. when you put your dog in first thing is 20 mins plus of intense work till bottled up then there baying mixing (stamina) then 25mins plus till the break through intense holding them there. the intense spurts is where the mill comes in the dog feels confident because he she has got the lungs to back it up . and this is where i think dogs fail because there to f****d to do it sometimes its not through lack of drive just to unfit. this is only my opinion .all i know is my dogs will never fail to being unfit . in the end of the day theres nothing harder for a dog than to be in the pit and when people did this back in the day not one of them would of not had a mill . Quote Link to post
HPR 1,160 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Carpet mills are good but only for strenght work builds up muscles. The more muscles the more oxygen they need to feed them. my opinion you dont want to much strength work more fitness.for the job there doing. 2 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Looks very well built, genuine question but where is the benefit for a working terrier as apposed to sufficient exercise on walks etc. I would have thought they would be okay for building cv fitness but not going to be as effective as out and about as the gait/ movement patterns are so ltd to going forward ie no twisting and turning atbpeople go on about walking bike work thats ok for endurance but you cant walk a dog fit . youve got to add sprint work . its the same as the mill you couldnt just use one of them to get ya dog fit. you neec a combo of them all . you dont see a boxer rugby player etc just going for a jog and walk. they do sprint work . theyve got to to get wind . this is why i think a lot of dogs fail because there not fit enough. when you put your dog in first thing is 20 mins plus of intense work till bottled up then there baying mixing (stamina) then 25mins plus till the break through intense holding them there. the intense spurts is where the mill comes in the dog feels confident because he she has got the lungs to back it up . and this is where i think dogs fail because there to f****d to do it sometimes its not through lack of drive just to unfit. this is only my opinion .all i know is my dogs will never fail to being unfit . in the end of the day theres nothing harder for a dog than to be in the pit and when people did this back in the day not one of them would of not had a mill . if you are fit can yo not do sprint work with a bike I know I can done it with lurchers for 20 years so a terrier shouldn't be hard Quote Link to post
HPR 1,160 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Looks very well built, genuine question but where is the benefit for a working terrier as apposed to sufficient exercise on walks etc. I would have thought they would be okay for building cv fitness but not going to be as effective as out and about as the gait/ movement patterns are so ltd to going forward ie no twisting and turning atbpeople go on about walking bike work thats ok for endurance but you cant walk a dog fit . youve got to add sprint work . its the same as the mill you couldnt just use one of them to get ya dog fit. you neec a combo of them all . you dont see a boxer rugby player etc just going for a jog and walk. they do sprint work . theyve got to to get wind . this is why i think a lot of dogs fail because there not fit enough. when you put your dog in first thing is 20 mins plus of intense work till bottled up then there baying mixing (stamina) then 25mins plus till the break through intense holding them there. the intense spurts is where the mill comes in the dog feels confident because he she has got the lungs to back it up . and this is where i think dogs fail because there to f****d to do it sometimes its not through lack of drive just to unfit. this is only my opinion .all i know is my dogs will never fail to being unfit . in the end of the day theres nothing harder for a dog than to be in the pit and when people did this back in the day not one of them would of not had a mill . if you are fit can yo not do sprint work with a bike I know I can done it with lurchers for 20 years so a terrier shouldn't be hardyou can but its not the same dogs feel more confident on a mill plus you can tease them with somets instead of pulling them on a lead and im sure you cant pedle faster than the dog . in the end of the day this isnt a sale pitch if your happy with what your doing and its working stick with it . these are there if people are interested in them and interested in getting that bit extra out of there dog . Quote Link to post
AXUM 255 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Carpet mills are good but only for strenght work builds up muscles. The more muscles the more oxygen they need to feed them. my opinion you dont want to much strength work more fitness.for the job there doing. you also dont want to only use treamill, you need to make dogs legs strong , and carpetmill like jogging a hill, sporting dog needs to be able to stay on his whole duration.free spinning treadmill alone wont cut it to get best out of your dog. thats what i learne from mates i know. Quote Link to post
HPR 1,160 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 We're these at the bulldog show last year? If so there very loud and poorly made, if anyone is after this kind of mill look at HR mills from holland there a world of difference but there a little more expensive but you get what your paying for!!!no these havent been any where yet there certainly not poorly made far from it. and the noise was one thing concentrated on you'll never get one totally quiet but these are quiet. hes had three come from holland for them. ive seen Hf's stuff and there not as good as these in my opinion there like dog trotters they rattle to much with them being bolted together aluminium and there alot more money. Quote Link to post
HPR 1,160 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Carpet mills are good but only for strenght work builds up muscles. The more muscles the more oxygen they need to feed them. my opinion you dont want to much strength work more fitness.for the job there doing.you also dont want to only use treamill, you need to make dogs legs strong , and carpetmill like jogging a hill, sporting dog needs to be able to stay on his whole duration.free spinning treadmill alone wont cut it to get best out of your dog. thats what i learne from mates i know.i agree but think if you ask your mates they'll only do strenth work at the end if you get what i mean.to much muscle means they need more oxygen to feed the muscle which means less stamina. Quote Link to post
AXUM 255 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Carpet mills are good but only for strenght work builds up muscles. The more muscles the more oxygen they need to feed them. my opinion you dont want to much strength work more fitness.for the job there doing.you also dont want to only use treamill, you need to make dogs legs strong , and carpetmill like jogging a hill, sporting dog needs to be able to stay on his whole duration.free spinning treadmill alone wont cut it to get best out of your dog. thats what i learne from mates i know.i agree but think if you ask your mates they'll only do strenth work at the end if you get what i mean.to much muscle means they need more oxygen to feed the muscle which means less stamina. makes sense. so gotta agree, dog will run hot quicker. Quote Link to post
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 ive got a electric treadmill for my dogs (leagal here) but i think coming up to start of the season letting them pull me around on the bike with a few sprints inbetween gets them in better shape than the treadmill...then working and genral mooching with them keeps them fit enough for graft ... seen a few peeps whos dogs dont leave the garden unless its to work 1 Quote Link to post
HPR 1,160 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 People that expect there dog to do anything with no effort put into them are f***ing idiots and shouldnt own a dog . ill say it once again these are only an extra for people who want to get the best out of thete mutts. you still need to do all the walking running flert pole work etc. Quote Link to post
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