craig09090 11 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hi all, needs a bit of advice! My 16month old bitch keeps dropping the dummy about a foot from me Even if I don't try and take it from her, she will drop it and sit in front of me!! Any ideas/advice welcome Thanks Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Get the pup more comfortable in your space , in or around the space of every animal is a zone of awareness , when the pup encroaches in your zone and the same with you in hers it causes a shift in its mindset from predator like to prey like , the same when some fecker gets right in your face , we feel a sense of compression and have to pull away it's the same feeling , it causes a change Get contact with front legs up on yours, no discipline in your space , no corrections with hands or in that zone , get physical contact for everything you do for her, feed bits by having her sustain contact with feet up on you standing , the pup will gradually feel more at home in that zone Best of luck I would hazard a guess it's probably more than a foot , it's generally two to three feet that usually the extent of the zone Edited March 20, 2015 by Casso 2 Quote Link to post
fabiomilitello 37 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 What do you want her to do? Drop it at your feet? Jump up on you and give you the dummy in your hands? Every dog is different mate, and if she is dropping the dummy a foot in front of you I really wouldn't worry. It's not that far at all. If she was dropping it a meter or two away then I'd try get something done about it, but honestly a foot is fine. 1 Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 What do you want her to do? Drop it at your feet? Jump up on you and give you the dummy in your hands? Every dog is different mate, and if she is dropping the dummy a foot in front of you I really wouldn't worry. It's not that far at all. If she was dropping it a meter or two away then I'd try get something done about it, but honestly a foot is fine. That'll be great when it brings back a runner and drops it 2 feet in front of you. I've never understood this 'drop' tactic. Should never be done. Why not sit down and try with a ball, don't throw it far. Lie down when the dog is returning if you have to. You can gradually stand up when the dog is more confident around you. Casso has pretty much said it already. 1 Quote Link to post
jok 3,266 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 When training mine, to be honest, the retrieve was either vocal, whistle or hand and arm.Each had the same result with an open arm gesture of welcome. Both Labs and Springers seemed to accept that as the end result. Furthermore, it was normally a retrieve to hand with the exception of foreshore geese. It must be said that this was from training right from the onset. I gather the dog is a bit older. May he/she have already learned bad habits? The other way that we were trained to do was the narrow corridor. Simply, the gap between two houses. Throw the dummy over your dog, whilst sitting, give the retrieve command, big praise on pick up and retrieve. Back away from the dog whilst he/she comes toward you and give the praise on the delivery. Couple of times. Good as gold. I also remember an old trick from one of the trainers.For every 'send'do one yourself leaving the dog in sit position. Hope you are successful. Hunt hard sleep easy. Jok. Quote Link to post
jangles 24 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 What do you want her to do? Drop it at your feet? Jump up on you and give you the dummy in your hands? Every dog is different mate, and if she is dropping the dummy a foot in front of you I really wouldn't worry. It's not that far at all. If she was dropping it a meter or two away then I'd try get something done about it, but honestly a foot is fine. That'll be great when it brings back a runner and drops it 2 feet in front of you. I've never understood this 'drop' tactic. Should never be done. Why not sit down and try with a ball, don't throw it far. Lie down when the dog is returning if you have to. You can gradually stand up when the dog is more confident around you. Casso has pretty much said it already. Had many a chuckle with a Gun/Host who used the 'drop' technique .. went something like this : Fetch eet .... drop eet ... fetch eet ! .... drop eet ... fetch eet ! Lab ... you vont a sossage Jangles 1 Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 What do you want her to do? Drop it at your feet? Jump up on you and give you the dummy in your hands? Every dog is different mate, and if she is dropping the dummy a foot in front of you I really wouldn't worry. It's not that far at all. If she was dropping it a meter or two away then I'd try get something done about it, but honestly a foot is fine.That'll be great when it brings back a runner and drops it 2 feet in front of you. I've never understood this 'drop' tactic. Should never be done.Why not sit down and try with a ball, don't throw it far. Lie down when the dog is returning if you have to. You can gradually stand up when the dog is more confident around you. Casso has pretty much said it already. Had many a chuckle with a Gun/Host who used the 'drop' technique .. went something like this : Fetch eet .... drop eet ... fetch eet ! .... drop eet ... fetch eet ! Lab ... you vont a sossage Jangles ??.....finally you've gave away your secret...?? Quote Link to post
craig09090 11 Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Thanks all! As always great an varied advice!! Bottom line is its my fault not being consistent in training and limited time out last season so now I'm paying the price lol So now I'm getting my act together to try an get her spot on for the coming season! If possible Shes dropping retreves a foot maybe 2 away from me and cumming in for a fuss praise call it what you will, and if I try an use treats she drops it and looks for the treat lol feels like I can't win atm lol Quote Link to post
craig09090 11 Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Well I just got in from a walk/ training session an it appears she don't mind giving me a tennis ball to hand! So I'm thinking just use the tennis ball for a few weeks then build on that? Quote Link to post
jok 3,266 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Spot on Craig. Not a big move from the ball to the dummy either. Try very short retrieves, and I'm on about 6 to 8 feet. This is just about enough time for the dog to pick up and turn round. Lo and behold there are you with your hand/hands out for the retrieve and a load of praise. That's what you can build on. Good man. Jok. Quote Link to post
glenng 15 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Does she retrieve a bird to your hand? Quote Link to post
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