David.evans 5,323 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 stingray i favour the 4x16x50 , 10 x1/2 mill dot , great scope , great glass, with added bonus , that you can make it work with chair gun and get the 1/2 mill dots to 5 yard increments ( all hawke scopes with mill dots can do this you have a great rifle , put agreat scope on it . as vm has said may be a little over the top for a air rifle , but fec it mate you wont go far wrong atb dave 2 Quote Link to post
Stingrey 0 Posted March 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 stingray i favour the 4x16x50 , 10 x1/2 mill dot , great scope , great glass, with added bonus , that you can make it work with chair gun and get the 1/2 mill dots to 5 yard increments ( all hawke scopes with mill dots can do this you have a great rifle , put agreat scope on it . as vm has said may be a little over the top for a air rifle , but fec it mate you wont go far wrong atb dave Do you have any experience of the tactical range? Quote Link to post
Rez 4,957 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Bloody get one The general consensus is that there superb. Quote Link to post
Big Uli 3 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Great scopes but as with everything it all depends on what suits you personally I've shot sidewinders for years but since I need reading glasses I have struggled with eye relief so I swapped to Viper connects The vipers are good but the glass is not the same quality as the Hawke Go and try one first is the best advise I can give you Quote Link to post
zandy01 3,575 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I've got a Hawke sidewinder and a MTC Mamba with SCB ret and personally would opt for the Mamba over the sidewinder any day, also save a fair bit of coin in doing so too Same as anything though, bothe cracking scopes but decision comes down to personal preference... Get yourself down loca gun shop and have a look through both to see which suits you better... Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I've got a Hawke sidewinder and a MTC Mamba with SCB ret and personally would opt for the Mamba over the sidewinder any day, also save a fair bit of coin in doing so too Same as anything though, bothe cracking scopes but decision comes down to personal preference... Get yourself down loca gun shop and have a look through both to see which suits you better... Well I am the other way round ,cant stand MTC scopes , just cant get on with them 1 Quote Link to post
zandy01 3,575 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I've got a Hawke sidewinder and a MTC Mamba with SCB ret and personally would opt for the Mamba over the sidewinder any day, also save a fair bit of coin in doing so too Same as anything though, bothe cracking scopes but decision comes down to personal preference... Get yourself down loca gun shop and have a look through both to see which suits you better... Well I am the other way round ,cant stand MTC scopes , just cant get on with them Just goes to show how everyone differs in opinion and how everyone's eye suits different scopes/ret etc Only way he will find what suits is looking through both and making his decision Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Yes Your both right lads , as said its what suits you , not any body else ! Dave Quote Link to post
John Stott 202 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Don't forget that with glasses scopes, any make, will give different results. I find that Hawkes and BSA are kinder to my eyes when using either. A Leapers I bought recently gives milky eye around the edges. As do most MTC and Bushnell I have tried in the past. My optician mumbled about prism and light refraction awhile ago, went straight over my head, as usual. Likewise the reticle is a big factor, I cannot use 30/30 and have to have mildot, again all down to the spectacles. Thats why I think all rifles, whatever type, should come with irons fitted. I turned up at an HFT meet last year not on my patch, shot with a SeeAll sight and enjoyed myself thoroughly. Because thats what shooting is about, enjoyment. 1 Quote Link to post
murph81 6 Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Another vote for Hawke Sidewinders here, have a 6-24x56 on my HW100KT and can't fault it other than the fact that its overkill for what I need. Quote Link to post
risingfriend 1,042 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 my opinion on hawke sidewinders are generally good for hunting not the best for low light shooting and good when you can adjust parralax to suit range. But for target disciplines not the best for hft as suffer badly with parralax error when not dialled in even with consistent head positioning you get problems and the bigger the ojective lens the the greater the parralax error. again all comes down to personal preference and what suits one will not suit another i love the hawke rets the half mildot and sr pro are some of the nicest. but if i was to buy a hawke scope it would be a panorama half mil dot with 40mm objective lens 1 Quote Link to post
Rimfireboy! 1,463 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Has anyone had experience with an MTC Optics Genesis 5-20x50??? Are they MTC's equivalent of Hawke Sidewinder??? I notice Daystate lean towards MTC when opting for rifle scope combos. I've got a 5-20x50 Genesis on my .17 Rimfire and it's served me well. Good clear sight picture and I'm happy enough with the reticule. It suits the rifle better than the burris signature that I had on it before IMO. I also have a mamba lite on my rapid mk1 and I'm very pleased with that scope as well for the price. Quote Link to post
j j m 6,533 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I like the hawk side winders had them on a few of my guns good optics Quote Link to post
SimonC_Here 36 Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've got the 6.5 - 20 x 42 half mildot sidewinder tac 30 on my Airwolf. It's lovely. I tried the MTC taipan but it just didn't suit my eyes, although I think I would have prefered the MTC SCB reticle. I will say though, the illuminated reticle started playing up pretty soon after I bought it and now green just doesn't work and red flickers. However, I've already spoken to Deben and they will take it back whenever I want and fix/replace it under warranty. Just waiting for the last shoot in the HFT season for me and I'll take it off and get it fixed. Simon Quote Link to post
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