tomburras 2,730 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 My landrover needs a bit of welding doing on the chassais - bloody rear spring mount has let go.... Does anyone know of a new welder that's not over £200 and would be suitable? Iv got to learn to weld yet too but I'll practice on scrap first. Any pointers would be great as I don't want to buy the wrong kind, cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smithie 2,443 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 get somebody to weld it for you as it wants to be right.. mig welding isnt hard but everybody who has ever picked up a torch tells me they can weld and just about managing to get 2 pices of steel to stick together is not welding 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad4it 695 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 as above get someone to do it for you as it is structial there fore checked by the mot tester the last thing you want to be doing is it twice just cos it failed the mot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fox digger 1,086 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 As above, 200 quid wont get you much of a mig either. That leg has been patched and plated before by the look of it so you dont know the extent of the stress the new patch work will have to withstand. Best put the money towards getting it done right, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomburras 2,730 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Yes I can see your point! I will practice for a while first and not touch it myself if i don't make a good standard. Safety is paramount. But learning to weld is something I have wanted to do for a while and a handy skill to have. Iv done a welding course in the past at collage and went great but that was 10 years ago and haven't welded since. I'll not just jump in and weld it without practicing to a good standard and testing my welds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomburras 2,730 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 As above, 200 quid wont get you much of a mig either. That leg has been patched and plated before by the look of it so you dont know the extent of the stress the new patch work will have to withstand. Best put the money towards getting it done right, It's only had a rear crossmember welding wise it's solid behind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad4it 695 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 think about how much stress it takes. learning to weld is a good skill to learn fair play i can weld quite well and have welded landrover crossmember on but i would still get someone to weld spring mounts on. £200 mig welders aint man enough to do the job anyway because they are aimed at the hobbist sorry if ive hijacked your thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomburras 2,730 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 think about how much stress it takes. learning to weld is a good skill to learn fair play i can weld quite well and have welded landrover crossmember on but i would still get someone to weld spring mounts on. £200 mig welders aint man enough to do the job anyway because they are aimed at the hobbist sorry if ive hijacked your thread No I appreciate your input! Maybe worth getting this done at a garage and learning to weld on an easier job? Iv pretty much rebuilt it myself including most of the engine and want to keep it all my work but the only thing left is to learn to repair the chassis when needed so I am keen! Yes, your right probably a job for the pro,s - I'm just a bit over enthusiastic lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad4it 695 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 fair play to you ive rebuilted enough landrover myself so know where your coming from as they say Landrover get in your blood you cant get it out 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rodp 316 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 mate, without being nasty our welding mask cost more than £200, you're not going to get a welder good enough for (A) £200 and ( running on single phase (240v). That jobs going to need cleaning up well, so that's an angle grinder job, then some weld blasting in to it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,582 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) mate, without being nasty our welding mask cost more than £200, you're not going to get a welder good enough for (A) £200 and ( running on single phase (240v). That jobs going to need cleaning up well, so that's an angle grinder job, then some weld blasting in to it. but do you need a £200 welding mask ? And yes you would get a welder good enough for £200 if you bought 2nd hand and theres plenty of single phase welders that are good enough to weld that (we had a single phase mig in a commercial vehicle garage that i built two brick wagon bodies with and used to weld stainless with it ) Edited March 15, 2015 by chid21 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomburras 2,730 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 mate, without being nasty our welding mask cost more than £200, you're not going to get a welder good enough for (A) £200 and ( running on single phase (240v). That jobs going to need cleaning up well, so that's an angle grinder job, then some weld blasting in to it. but do you need a £200 welding mask ? And yes you would get a welder good enough for £200 if you bought 2nd hand and theres plenty of single phase welders that are good enough to weld that (we had a single phase mig in a commercial vehicle garage that i built two brick wagon bodies with and used to weld stainless with it ) I was thinking I could find a good one for that price. I have now got someone to teach me how to weld and do it with me so happy days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plummerterrier 291 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Get a cheap arc welder a few sticks and practice away you'll be half decent in no time. I'm not a welder but have one in the van for welding up brackets when I'm pipe fitting and they take a serious amount if weight bit of practice and you'll be fine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rodp 316 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 mate, without being nasty our welding mask cost more than £200, you're not going to get a welder good enough for (A) £200 and ( running on single phase (240v). That jobs going to need cleaning up well, so that's an angle grinder job, then some weld blasting in to it. but do you need a £200 welding mask ?And yes you would get a welder good enough for £200 if you bought 2nd hand and theres plenty of single phase welders that are good enough to weld that (we had a single phase mig in a commercial vehicle garage that i built two brick wagon bodies with and used to weld stainless with it ) Yep, we need the mask. A good mask is clear so you can see the weld go in, it's fast on changing and works every time. As for welding the trucks, admittedly it was a long time ago when I was doing wheelbase alterations for the main dealers, hooklift prototypes for Multilift and repairs on truck cranes but I wouldn't have got my coding on a single phase mig, no way, just can't get the penetration needed. To go slow enough to get the required heat would cause inclusions even now I think. Has been 35 years though, and welders have probably come on a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmad riley 1,347 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Correct welding is an art not a trade I can weld a bit but not if your life depends on it. My weld looks like pigeon shite lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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