Quarter bull 240 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 p Haha david cheated, I thought you dont beleive the bible, which is it, an goliatith was a giant so a stone was needed. Anyway so you still cant see the point I made, an cant answer my question, once again, youve no standard, is that correct, everyone chooses themselves, so you dont mind if the rapist" does what he does, after all thats his own subjective choice as you say No I take full responsibility for my actions, God has given me a standard tho, absolute standard, I have the choice.... So finally your saying you decide morally your actions? that question makes no sense,but if its the same as the other one i honestly cant spell it out clearer than i did above. my nature and environment give me my outlook,but i am still responsible for my actions. Well I would say thats flawed then, by your view each an everyman deceides for themselves, yes, no absolutes, well a rapist thinks its ok to rape, he deceided himself thats it ok so he done it, so is he wrong for deceiding himself or is your,,,we choose ourself wrong, whos wrong you or ? morality is subjective,different people have different morals. the laws of nature arent,raping someone shows weakess,no animal tolerates weakness in it's own species. xtianity is not just the tolerance of but the cultivation of all human weakness and failure,because it's entire ideology is counter to the laws of nature. the coward David for example is considered a hero by the Abrahic cults,because he cheated in a dual killing a better,stronger man in Goliath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) No I take full responsibility for my actions, God has given me a standard tho, absolute standard, I have the choice.... So finally your saying you decide morally your actions? that question makes no sense,but if its the same as the other one i honestly cant spell it out clearer than i did above. my nature and environment give me my outlook,but i am still responsible for my actions. Well I would say thats flawed then, by your view each an everyman deceides for themselves, yes, no absolutes, well a rapist thinks its ok to rape, he deceided himself thats it ok so he done it, so is he wrong for deceiding himself or is your,,,we choose ourself wrong, whos wrong you or ? morality is subjective,different people have different morals. the laws of nature arent,raping someone shows weakess,no animal tolerates weakness in it's own species. xtianity is not just the tolerance of but the cultivation of all human weakness and failure,because it's entire ideology is counter to the laws of nature. the coward David for example is considered a hero by the Abrahic cults,because he cheated in a dual killing a better,stronger man in Goliath. If you think your an animal then you have no respect for yourself, or is this just for show, so see if you can answer a straight question,....so subjectivley a rapists morals are fine, is that what your saying, so you dont mind rape,,,if you dont could you state why? so sometimes in nature as you say monkeys, daogs, ducks even force themselves on the female when there trying to get away holding them by the back of the neck,, so is this the same as humans can we do this aswell, saying were just animals as you say?,,,,please be straight an not blame something else, thanks Edited April 5, 2015 by Quarter bull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 If you have any questions fire away lad,,,, Your are using a logical fallacy or circular reasoning to answer question,, you cant answer questions with yes or no, can you..... Always shifting the blame or blaming your forefathers.... One more question....so do you think might is right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted April 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 QB I said religion insults MY intelligence, if you've interpreted that as me saying I'm somehow a Mensa candidate then you're not all the clever yourself are you! Now how does a human being that descended from Apes saying he thinks he's an Animal which we are make him have no respect for himself yet you worshipping a man mad god who's son apparently turnt into a zombie not ? Buffoonery Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Why does it insult your intelligence for,,? Im not clever an I havent claimed to be... Thats your opinion not fact, if you want to beleive you descended from an ape, fair enough, but im not, an im not an animal im a human being, vastly different from animals do you not think? I have respect for myself, thats why I dont call myself an animal or my children, Question, if your telling your children your an animal, an they act like one, an just say rob a granny, how would you discipline them,, after all their just animals acting like animals, an the granny was weak,,,how would you discipline them? An who turned into a mummy? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 So just a short recap mate ,you feel compelled to believe there is something out there no one has seen ,a few crazies have heard and YOU feel the need to explain my actions .You mentioned my eating eggs as hypocritcal but as far as im concerned or my wife my kids there is no religious link occuring here .Easter is egg time simple .If you think different mate go ahead.Evolution has been kinder to some whilst a few have been left behind thats very obvious to me and im afraid you are one of them left behind .No doubt a lengthy serman to follow Tell me this ,if your god is our maker and its his will we should follow the path to righteousness why does he allow any fecker to stray in the first place .....answer because there aint one . why are there so many atrocities in the name of religion ......answer because its all man made to keep the weak in line . why is there so much abusing within the church ........answer because they abuse the power those weaker believe they have .Your answer to is rape wrong of course it is ,those committing it know too but couldnt care less .We have evolved to look after the vulnerable ,one step on from animals ,those committing the act have been left behind a bit .There are many cases of retarded families in and around the country the world i guess which have been equally left behind .We have evolved to punish those who harm us .Nothing divine just good old fashioned retribution.Evolution mate nothing more nothing less . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 No I take full responsibility for my actions, God has given me a standard tho, absolute standard, I have the choice.... So finally your saying you decide morally your actions? that question makes no sense,but if its the same as the other one i honestly cant spell it out clearer than i did above. my nature and environment give me my outlook,but i am still responsible for my actions. Well I would say thats flawed then, by your view each an everyman deceides for themselves, yes, no absolutes, well a rapist thinks its ok to rape, he deceided himself thats it ok so he done it, so is he wrong for deceiding himself or is your,,,we choose ourself wrong, whos wrong you or ? morality is subjective,different people have different morals. the laws of nature arent,raping someone shows weakess,no animal tolerates weakness in it's own species. xtianity is not just the tolerance of but the cultivation of all human weakness and failure,because it's entire ideology is counter to the laws of nature. the coward David for example is considered a hero by the Abrahic cults,because he cheated in a dual killing a better,stronger man in Goliath. If you think your an animal then you have no respect for yourself, or is this just for show, so see if you can answer a straight question,....so subjectivley a rapists morals are fine, is that what your saying, so you dont mind rape,,,if you dont could you state why? so sometimes in nature as you say monkeys, daogs, ducks even force themselves on the female when there trying to get away holding them by the back of the neck,, so is this the same as humans can we do this aswell, saying were just animals as you say?,,,,please be straight an not blame something else, thanks subjective means seen from an individuals perspective. morality is subjective as long as we are in keeping with our nature we are acting morally,and rape in humans is a sign of weakness,so its not in keeping with our nature to tolerate it. if we ignore natures laws we die out,any religious or humanistic inclinations die with us if we disregard the infallible laws of nature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 The fact is QB, animals follow simple rules for survival, humans abuse their intelligence and do some really nasty shit, all for the wrong reasons, greeds probably the top reason, but religions got to be the second, humans are scum mate, and bound to die out, we abuse everything, and abuse it with the intelligence not to, what's worse than that? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) For a start Chris, Neanderthal man has been proven without shadow of a doubt that they were old humans with artiritis,, I forget the name of the scientist now, I will get it tho,, he was a also a dentist an studied the original Neanderthal bones..he said what I posted above...just cause they have 20℅ same DNA, that proves a common designer ancestor: CJ Oh an explain how their brains were larger, I thought were the most evolved an smartest? I took the liberty of fixing the syntax above! Proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they're old humans with arthritis? I smell a Nobel prize for you, sir! Any chance of a sneek peek at your Doctorate! (Kent Hovind's was very entertaining!) They did have larger brains, however evolution favours the most adaptable. Chris such waffles mate,, micro evolution is scientific an testable, macro is a belief a theory, a figment of yours an there's imagination, which has never been seen or tested, your lying mate... I don't like the term micro I would say variation, few examples for you, the dog family, wolf cyote,: our companions,,, you get big ones small ones, black ones, different shapes sizes,, variation,, or as you would say micro evolution...an what do we see in nature now which is scientific an testable,, they bring forth after their kind, a DOG, not a cat or a crocodile, a DOG,, THIS WE SEE EVERYDAY SCIENTIFIC AN TESTABLE, NOTHING IN BETWEEN Next monkeys, big ones small one different colours, different shapes, but its a MONKEY, WHICH BRING FORTH AFTER THEIR KIND, MONKEYS...testable observable scientific Next birds, as above big small different colours, different shapes etc, THEY BRING FORTH AFTER THEIR KIND A BIRD,, testable an oberseravable science.... LOL! You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink! I could go on forever with this, you do not see nothing else in nature, no macro hybrids between different kinds,,, Your macro is not scientific, it's a belief that has never been studied, or seen therefore not scientific...can you give me any examples of macro please...not long ago an far away, scientific examples here an now... But answer me this, how can you tell from fossils bones in the dirt, that evolution is true, all you know is that it died, fact nothing else, the rest is imaginary, a law graduate would tear it apart in court..an another what makes you think animals back then could produce anything different, to what their producing today,, I thought were the most evolved yet. God created the kinds, an variations has happened si nice that creation, The whole point of macro evolution is long ago and far away! It was long ago! It will be in the future. Macro spans everything from then to now, and is so well researched it's even refered to as the fact of evolution! I get it though. You don't believe, and that's fine. You cannot accept macro evolution, but it's a researchable and testable reality. You need order from the chaos. You need a purpose. Fair enough. I just accept that we're highly evolved primates. Edited April 5, 2015 by ChrisJones 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) What im trying to say is that each individual choosing whats morally right an wrong, is flawed bigtime, But isn't that the very essence of free will? The free will to choose, or not to choose? im not saying all atheist are morally wrong, no definatley not, what im saying is that everyone choosing for themselves is flawed, as I said rapists thinks it ok to rape, murdersrs think its ok to murder, them three lads that beat up the old woman thinks it ok to do that, after all they choose themselves whats morally right an wrong,,,,so whos wrong you lads or the above.... Deuteronomy permits the rape of virgins who are not betrothed. Isn't that god's word? Or is it open to interpretation? QB. Would you address any of the anti semitism in the New Testament? Edited April 5, 2015 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) If there was any credible evidence of a God wouldn't the world superpowers be funding research into that seeing as he apparently made everything instead of scientific research trying to find out exactly how we got here ? Doesn't the fact they're not ring alarm bells to religious people ? Edited April 6, 2015 by j1985 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Oh yeah your right mate, the superpowers really love an care about us, how was I so ignorant of that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I must buy a tv an turn discovery back on, an get back to the flock,,,, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Thats me back on track 1985, ,dusted of my tv, got a big glass of flurodated water, an im just about watch national pornographic, crap I meant geographic,,,, oooh an im getting me flu jab next week,,,back to normality..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 How did I ever go without this,,,,,,,,programming,,,,,,,nothing to worry about here folks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Haha you've lost the plot now!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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