If God Made Everything, Who Made Him ?

[Quarter bull 240]

 

 

Yeah an I dont agree with religon I told you that already paulas, strictly bible for me mate, did you not hear the story, when the religous people brought the adultress woman to jesus, an tryed to trick him, asking him, to deal with the sinner, jesus said to them ye without sin cast the first stone, an they departed, jesus told the woman, go an repent an sin no more, we have no problem with women paulas, why should we, an anyone that does, should look in the mirror.

 

An no paulas, lol, was just asking do you sleep well, if you do happy days.

so you don't agree with religion, but agree with the religion of the book

What I mean paulas is religon is a word used to generalize, but religius people worship statues paintings, animals, themselves moniess etc etc, I follow the bible who forbids all these things, not to control you but for our own protection, if you praise anything other than God, your open to being deceived, an led astray, thats what the bible says

[Born Hunter 17,775]

QB, when you write something and click on the 'post' button, just click it once! The more times you click it before it loads the more times it will add that particular post to the thread.

[Quarter bull 240]

Thanks mate it loads, to webpage unavailable, but it still must post.

[Accip74 7,112]

 

Mate, without boasting.....right now my life is fantastic, I've never been more happier or more contented in my entire life, than I am now.......I have a beautiful family, I live in beautiful place in a house full of love! with every thing I need & I don't need much in life, I have simple needs......if I went searching for more & possibly search for some kind of faith, to me that would mean I was unfulfilled or something was missing in my life.

I hope I sincerely never have to start searching for something else, because that would mean something went wrong! & if you were a good Christian, you wouldn't wish it on me either......Atb

 

Why limit yourself ?........I also have a similarly contented life but it doesnt stop me wanting more...................just a different type of riches i guess

I'll never stop exploring gnash.......new places, new foods, new music, new friends etc the list is endless, but I know these things won't make me any happier, just satisfy curiosity & perhaps give me a more rounded character & an appreciation of life & all it's variables....I'm not looking for answers mate.

Maybe I do limit myself, I've certainly never been hungry enough to put myself out & make a lot more money, perhaps that's a flaw in my character?

What I do find objectionable with a lot of religious folk & I'm not aiming this at you, is that somehow us non believers are lacking, secretly unfulfilled, ignorant of the true meaning or paths of our own lives......& all this could be moped up, if only we join the club & embrace god.

There are many things I feel towards religion & it's followers.....but superiority isn't one of them, I just wish it was reciprocated more sometimes.

[gnasher16 30,121]

 

I'll never stop exploring gnash.......new places, new foods, new music, new friends etc the list is endless, but I know these things won't make me any happier, just satisfy curiosity & perhaps give me a more rounded character & an appreciation of life & all it's variables....I'm not looking for answers mate.

Maybe I do limit myself, I've certainly never been hungry enough to put myself out & make a lot more money, perhaps that's a flaw in my character?

What I do find objectionable with a lot of religious folk & I'm not aiming this at you, is that somehow us non believers are lacking, secretly unfulfilled, ignorant of the true meaning or paths of our own lives......& all this could be moped up, if only we join the club & embrace god.

There are many things I feel towards religion & it's followers.....but superiority isn't one of them, I just wish it was reciprocated more sometimes.

 

Nicely put and cant say i disagree as regards the overly religious types .....ive always looked at the people doing well to see how they did it....and so when it comes to looking at a few people around me who are truly content and happy in their life ( mentally and emotionally im talking about not financially ) it naturally pricks my ears up when they say its down to God.....doesnt mean i swallow everything whole but it does prompt me to ask questions and to be honest so far i like what i hear.

 

You say you,ve never been hungry enough and though i wouldnt call it a flaw as we,re all made different i have been and having seen the answers/rewards that dogged persistance brings in other areas of life its why i wont stop with this God caper until one way or another i get answers....just an inquisitive nature i guess

Edited March 13, 2015 by gnasher16

[Accip74 7,112]

 

I'll never stop exploring gnash.......new places, new foods, new music, new friends etc the list is endless, but I know these things won't make me any happier, just satisfy curiosity & perhaps give me a more rounded character & an appreciation of life & all it's variables....I'm not looking for answers mate.

Maybe I do limit myself, I've certainly never been hungry enough to put myself out & make a lot more money, perhaps that's a flaw in my character?

What I do find objectionable with a lot of religious folk & I'm not aiming this at you, is that somehow us non believers are lacking, secretly unfulfilled, ignorant of the true meaning or paths of our own lives......& all this could be moped up, if only we join the club & embrace god.

There are many things I feel towards religion & it's followers.....but superiority isn't one of them, I just wish it was reciprocated more sometimes.

 

Nicely put and cant say i disagree as regards the overly religious types .....ive always looked at the people doing well to see how they did it....and so when it comes to looking at a few people around me who are truly content and happy in their life ( mentally and emotionally im talking about not financially ) it naturally pricks my ears up when they say its down to God.....doesnt mean i swallow everything whole but it does prompt me to ask questions and to be honest so far i like what i hear.

 

You say you,ve never been hungry enough and though i wouldnt call it a flaw as we,re all made different i have been and having seen the answers/rewards that dogged persistance brings in other areas of life its why i wont stop with this God caper until one way or another i get answers....just an inquisitive nature i guess

I genuinely wish you well on that journey. Atb

[jacknife 2,005]

I would find it hard to except god

 

Number one reason for how evil it/him/her is how many innocent people has it killed in the bible stories

 

How many millions were killed in the big flood

[Mickey Finn 3,014]

 

 

You think God is an alien, explain what an alien is first mate, in your terms, to me aliens are demons masqurading as et or ascended masters etc etc

 

That God has put into another dimension, thats why they always seem to be light, balls of light or whatever, thats how they travel so fast, an disappear into thin air, an theres loads of evidence for this

Aliens? They come from somewhere else. We assume that there may be some other beings out in the universe somewhere. Why wouldn't there be. Demons are spirits with out corporeal form. Fallen angels to us, and certainly to be avoided. You could call them aliens as they seem to occupy another dimension. Who knows maybe they have form in Hell.

 

God is none of these things. As he made everything we can observe it would be wrong to say he's an alien here.

 

My stab at time would be that it enables us to comprehend our lives, and events past present and future. I imagine God sees us as a puddle of sorts every moment of our life visible at once to him. I wonder if we see ourselves this way in the end. When I finally go, my memory will be crap. So, seeing my life all at once might help me explain a few points along the way.

 

ATB

Morning mickey, fallen angels are not demons mate, ive just recently learned this, fallen angels cannot posses you like a demon, fallen angels are angels that have given up their existence of being, to change to the physical, to come here, they stay here cant go back, an look like us.

 

Now demons are the souls an spirits, of the nephilim, they were the race of earthly woman, an fallen angels, half human half angel, genisis, when the sons of God, came down, saw the daughtters of men, an took them as wives, you know the one,,,,now these demons can an will posses you, they can cause they have a soul an spirit, from the woman side, angels do not, you want to protect yourselves from demons, evil, an there everywere

 

It's just now morning. We don't seem to share an opinion of "fallen angels". What is your opinion of spirits of the dead returning to earth?

[Mickey Finn 3,014]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Iit's easy to knock and ridicule because the alternative is to become un-cool so it's much easier not to really question what is taught. As a young lad I was the same.

Wonder how many will mock before departing this planet.

Said it before there are no atheists on a burning aeroplane.

That's all I have to say on this post as it's becoming tedious now.

Praying to god in the face of death is a sign of desperation that many of us may experience, doesn't necessarily mean enlightenment......I'm more interested in the atrocities committed by the religious.....whether it's child rape or all out war, what do their prayers consist of then? Catholics, Muslims, Christians, Jews etc etc.....just seems like a facade to me, a 'get out of jail card'.....

Sorry, I don't buy the first part. I've been in harms way more times than I can even remember. I don't call on God out of desperation. I call because I know what he can do for me.

 

For the crimes, wars, and all the rest. That is human beings doing what human beings do. If you do evil you are not all that religious are you?

 

ATB

Tell that to the Vatican.....

Accip, that's weaker than no comment at all.

Really???......The Vatican...a place where corruption is endemic & many of its residents have a penchant for child sodomy & you say there not 'all that' religious there?

But hey, I'm not singling out Catholics here, that's just one example.......whether it's a jihadist about to blow up a shopping centre full of innocent folk or a catholic priest who's just raped a child, both would appear EXTREMELY religious to me, but the decent folk, probably like yourself, who have a similar faith choose to bury their heads in the sand & ignore it.

So it's only decent folk that are 'really' religious?

It's been suggested on here before, that we used to live as a society in a golden era of 'good Christian values', but so far I've failed to find this 'golden' time in recent history, where there was no child sodomy, rape, murder, robbery, extortion, human neglect, racism, political corruption etc etc etc etc...........

A family member of mine, in the late 1940's as a 6 year old, was sexually abused by a family friend, he apparently had good 'Christian values', a regular church attendee, but I guess he wasn't 'all that' religious either, right? Then as a teenager she was raped by an irish soldier, just a guess here, but I bet he'd had a fair dose of god fearing shite shoved down his throat from an early age as well, or maybe not?

Maybe this wasn't during the golden era of 'good Christian' values' either? Maybe someone can enlighten me?

From where I'm standing I can see plenty of decent religious folk, doing decent things, but evil is committed by folk with a faith just as strong, some say fanatical.......all under the facade of religion, the good folk just don't want to see it.

Don't talk to me about weak pal, I'm not the one going through life with a 'comfort blanket'. ATb

Sounds like you could use one.

Mate, without boasting.....right now my life is fantastic, I've never been more happier or more contented in my entire life, than I am now.......I have a beautiful family, I live in beautiful place in a house full of love! with every thing I need & I don't need much in life, I have simple needs......if I went searching for more & possibly search for some kind of faith, to me that would mean I was unfulfilled or something was missing in my life.

I hope I sincerely never have to start searching for something else, because that would mean something went wrong! & if you were a good Christian, you wouldn't wish it on me either......Atb

 

I'm glad you're content, and I wouldn't want to force you out of that state. Buuuuuut, it wouldn't be much of a debate if I left well enough alone. So, here it is. I raise animals for food. They seem quite content until....well you get the idea.

 

ATB

[Quarter bull 240]

I would find it hard to except god

 

Number one reason for how evil it/him/her is how many innocent people has it killed in the bible stories

 

How many millions were killed in the big flood

Do you know the people who God turned there enemys on an why they were slain, an do you know why God sent the flood, if not I would suggest you find out.

 

But sure I thought you didnt beleive, which is it?

[bullx100% 681]

Bit of a loose statment, what you mean?

Not sure if your post was referring to my post but what I mean is this......a plane loses power and starts to fall from the sky but the pilot manages to crash land the plane leaving the plane smashed to bits but no 1 dies they are just wounded ..... Strait away every one starts shouting it's a miracle God has saved them. (Devine intervention) .....two weeks later bus crashes...everyone dies.......no mention of God there then

[jacknife 2,005]

 

I would find it hard to except god

 

Number one reason for how evil it/him/her is how many innocent people has it killed in the bible stories

 

How many millions were killed in the big flood

Do you know the people who God turned there enemys on an why they were slain, an do you know why God sent the flood, if not I would suggest you find out.

 

But sure I thought you didnt beleive, which is it?

If someone shows me proof then I will believe in it god/aliens/ or whatever

 

But I still wouldn't worship any

[Quarter bull 240]

 

 

 

 

You think God is an alien, explain what an alien is first mate, in your terms, to me aliens are demons masqurading as et or ascended masters etc etc

 

That God has put into another dimension, thats why they always seem to be light, balls of light or whatever, thats how they travel so fast, an disappear into thin air, an theres loads of evidence for this

Aliens? They come from somewhere else. We assume that there may be some other beings out in the universe somewhere. Why wouldn't there be. Demons are spirits with out corporeal form. Fallen angels to us, and certainly to be avoided. You could call them aliens as they seem to occupy another dimension. Who knows maybe they have form in Hell.

 

God is none of these things. As he made everything we can observe it would be wrong to say he's an alien here.

 

My stab at time would be that it enables us to comprehend our lives, and events past present and future. I imagine God sees us as a puddle of sorts every moment of our life visible at once to him. I wonder if we see ourselves this way in the end. When I finally go, my memory will be crap. So, seeing my life all at once might help me explain a few points along the way.

 

ATB

Morning mickey, fallen angels are not demons mate, ive just recently learned this, fallen angels cannot posses you like a demon, fallen angels are angels that have given up their existence of being, to change to the physical, to come here, they stay here cant go back, an look like us.

 

Now demons are the souls an spirits, of the nephilim, they were the race of earthly woman, an fallen angels, half human half angel, genisis, when the sons of God, came down, saw the daughtters of men, an took them as wives, you know the one,,,,now these demons can an will posses you, they can cause they have a soul an spirit, from the woman side, angels do not, you want to protect yourselves from demons, evil, an there everywere

It's just now morning. We don't seem to share an opinion of "fallen angels". What is your opinion of spirits of the dead returning to earth?

Hi mate I thought the same up until recently, I was researching an in the word, an found out that there different like I stated above, thats my take on it mate Edited March 13, 2015 by Quarter bull

[Quarter bull 240]

 

Bit of a loose statment, what you mean?

Not sure if your post was referring to my post but what I mean is this......a plane loses power and starts to fall from the sky but the pilot manages to crash land the plane leaving the plane smashed to bits but no 1 dies they are just wounded ..... Strait away every one starts shouting it's a miracle God has saved them. (Devine intervention) .....two weeks later bus crashes...everyone dies.......no mention of God there then

That doesnt mean a thing mate its each individual that makes there mind up

[Quarter bull 240]

 

 

I would find it hard to except god

 

Number one reason for how evil it/him/her is how many innocent people has it killed in the bible stories

 

How many millions were killed in the big flood

Do you know the people who God turned there enemys on an why they were slain, an do you know why God sent the flood, if not I would suggest you find out.

 

But sure I thought you didnt beleive, which is it?

If someone shows me proof then I will believe in it god/aliens/ or whatever

 

But I still wouldn't worship any

You want someone to do the work for you typical, do your own research lol