If God Made Everything, Who Made Him ?

[bullx100% 681]

Understand wat your saying but why would God savthe plane but let the bus crash ?

 

Is it simply "carnet save everyone all the time "

 

Or is it " it was there time to meet here maker " kinda thing

[Quarter bull 240]

Mate no one knows what happened, why no one was killed, its just people making there own mind up.

[Hareydave 1,214]

god the biggest load bollox made up by man who prob just discovered merry mushrooms that week, going by there description of him

[bullx100% 681]

Just found my name means " sone of the beloved one " son of David " .......maybe somone in my family were Christians.lol

[Hareydave 1,214]

Just found my name means " sone of the beloved one " son of David " .......maybe somone in my family were Christians.lol

yeah an your user name a goodn too

[Mickey Finn 3,014]

 

Bit of a loose statment, what you mean?

Not sure if your post was referring to my post but what I mean is this......a plane loses power and starts to fall from the sky but the pilot manages to crash land the plane leaving the plane smashed to bits but no 1 dies they are just wounded ..... Strait away every one starts shouting it's a miracle God has saved them. (Devine intervention) .....two weeks later bus crashes...everyone dies.......no mention of God there then

 

 

 

 

Bit of a loose statment, what you mean?

Not sure if your post was referring to my post but what I mean is this......a plane loses power and starts to fall from the sky but the pilot manages to crash land the plane leaving the plane smashed to bits but no 1 dies they are just wounded ..... Strait away every one starts shouting it's a miracle God has saved them. (Devine intervention) .....two weeks later bus crashes...everyone dies.......no mention of God there then

 

I'd call it a plane crash. That they fly at all would be the miracle. We'll know soon enough how the plane crashed, and why the injuries and damage occurred. That is simple science. For bus crash it's the same. Years ago I went to an accident on the Interstate highway. A tour bus, rolled over in the fog, and landed on it's side across the lanes of traffic. Three cars drove through the center, and nobody was injured. The people were sitting in the front of the bus, and the passengers of the cars benefitted from modern automotive design. God did create human beings who took the time to advance the species as a whole. So, it was Gods will, but no miracle. You say that people declared a miracle when there were survivors in your example. What of it?

 

ATB

[neems 2,406]

QB what's your thoughts on xmas and all its traditions,easter,hel,jesus dying being resurreceted,new year and all its traditions?

 

all of those are pagan,all much older than christianity,there are of course many more.

 

i'm really just curious how a christian can answer all this,if you weren't already aware of these then you really havent done much critical research.

[jacknife 2,005]

Understand wat your saying but why would God savthe plane but let the bus crash ?

 

Is it simply "carnet save everyone all the time "

 

Or is it " it was there time to meet here maker " kinda thing

From what i have read over the years i have come to the conclusion that

 

God (if he exists) doesn't care if you live or die

 

Its how righteous you are

[Quarter bull 240]

 

 

 

Bit of a loose statment, what you mean?

Not sure if your post was referring to my post but what I mean is this......a plane loses power and starts to fall from the sky but the pilot manages to crash land the plane leaving the plane smashed to bits but no 1 dies they are just wounded ..... Strait away every one starts shouting it's a miracle God has saved them. (Devine intervention) .....two weeks later bus crashes...everyone dies.......no mention of God there then

 

Bit of a loose statment, what you mean?

Not sure if your post was referring to my post but what I mean is this......a plane loses power and starts to fall from the sky but the pilot manages to crash land the plane leaving the plane smashed to bits but no 1 dies they are just wounded ..... Strait away every one starts shouting it's a miracle God has saved them. (Devine intervention) .....two weeks later bus crashes...everyone dies.......no mention of God there then

I'd call it a plane crash. That they fly at all would be the miracle. We'll know soon enough how the plane crashed, and why the injuries and damage occurred. That is simple science. For bus crash it's the same. Years ago I went to an accident on the Interstate highway. A tour bus, rolled over in the fog, and landed on it's side across the lanes of traffic. Three cars drove through the center, and nobody was injured. The people were sitting in the front of the bus, and the passengers of the cars benefitted from modern automotive design. God did create human beings who took the time to advance the species as a whole. So, it was Gods will, but no miracle. You say that people declared a miracle when there were survivors in your example. What of it?

 

ATB

Bible says once you die, your then judged, you havent the capability to come back as a ghost, or anything else,,,:-)

[shepp 2,285]

 

I would find it hard to except god

 

Number one reason for how evil it/him/her is how many innocent people has it killed in the bible stories

 

How many millions were killed in the big flood

Do you know the people who God turned there enemys on an why they were slain, an do you know why God sent the flood, if not I would suggest you find out.

 

But sure I thought you didnt beleive, which is it?

Would that be the same flood where a 400 year old, 8ft tall Noah, managed to gather two of every species on the planet. Even though hundreds of thousands of these species are from places that were not to be known to the Middle East for thousands of years, ie Americas and Australia.

Then somehow herd them across vast deserts, forest and tundra onto ships that would need to be the size of ocean liners. With food that he would need to have spent years researching what they eat. Which would then have gone rotten during the years of travel back to the Middle East anyway.

Then herd them into a wooden ship bigger than anything created by modern man out of steel with food and water to last.

Then after the flood, spend years returning them all by ship to all there relevant homes across the world.

[Quarter bull 240]

QB what's your thoughts on xmas and all its traditions,easter,hel,jesus dying being resurreceted,new year and all its traditions?

 

The only thing important is jesus dying for our sins an rising on the third day, an maybe xmas for the children until they find out theres no santa, the presents, an eggs are just gimmicks to take away from the true meaning imo

 

all of those are pagan,all much older than christianity,there are of course many more.

 

i'm really just curious how a christian can answer all this,if you weren't already aware of these then you really havent done much critical research.

[Quarter bull 240]

 

 

I would find it hard to except go

 

Number one reason for how evil it/him/her is how many innocent people has it killed in the bible stories

 

How many millions were killed in the big flood

Do you know the people who God turned there enemys on an why they were slain, an do you know why God sent the flood, if not I would suggest you find out.

 

But sure I thought you didnt beleive, which is it?

Would that be the same flood where a 400 year old, 8ft tall Noah, managed to gather two of every species on the planet. Even though hundreds of thousands of these species are from places that were not to be known to the Middle East for thousands of years, ie Americas and Australia.

Then somehow herd them across vast deserts, forest and tundra onto ships that would need to be the size of ocean liners. With food that he would need to have spent years researching what they eat. Which would then have gone rotten during the years of travel back to the Middle East anyway.

Then herd them into a wooden ship bigger than anything created by modern man out of steel with food and water to last.

Then after the flood, spend years returning them all by ship to all there relevant homes across the world.

Shepp why you talking if something you dont beleive in, dont understand your logic, you think you know it all, but the only thing you got right, was his age an size, but good try lol

[neems 2,406]

 

QB what's your thoughts on xmas and all its traditions,easter,hel,jesus dying being resurreceted,new year and all its traditions?

 

The only thing important is jesus dying for our sins an rising on the third day, an maybe xmas for the children until they find out theres no santa, the presents, an eggs are just gimmicks to take away from the true meaning imo

 

all of those are pagan,all much older than christianity,there are of course many more.

 

i'm really just curious how a christian can answer all this,if you weren't already aware of these then you really havent done much critical research.

 

 

i wrote another post about the story of the crucifiction and how it was stolen from a much older pagan ritual.

 

i cant put up link atm but you could easily find it on google.

 

it's obvious to me that the early christians bastardised their religion so that europeans would accept it.

[shepp 2,285]

 

 

 

I would find it hard to except go

 

Number one reason for how evil it/him/her is how many innocent people has it killed in the bible stories

 

How many millions were killed in the big flood

Do you know the people who God turned there enemys on an why they were slain, an do you know why God sent the flood, if not I would suggest you find out.

 

But sure I thought you didnt beleive, which is it?

Would that be the same flood where a 400 year old, 8ft tall Noah, managed to gather two of every species on the planet. Even though hundreds of thousands of these species are from places that were not to be known to the Middle East for thousands of years, ie Americas and Australia.

Then somehow herd them across vast deserts, forest and tundra onto ships that would need to be the size of ocean liners. With food that he would need to have spent years researching what they eat. Which would then have gone rotten during the years of travel back to the Middle East anyway.

Then herd them into a wooden ship bigger than anything created by modern man out of steel with food and water to last.

Then after the flood, spend years returning them all by ship to all there relevant homes across the world.

Shepp why you talking if something you dont beleive in, dont understand your logic, you think you know it all, but the only thing you got right, was his age an size, but good try lol

So how did Noah save two of every species on the planet , during the global flood then?

[bullx100% 681]

 

 

Bit of a loose statment, what you mean?

 

Not sure if your post was referring to my post but what I mean is this......a plane loses power and starts to fall from the sky but the pilot manages to crash land the plane leaving the plane smashed to bits but no 1 dies they are just wounded ..... Strait away every one starts shouting it's a miracle God has saved them. (Devine intervention) .....two weeks later bus crashes...everyone dies.......no mention of God there the

What of it

 

 

 

Bit of a loose statment, what you mean?

 

Not sure if your post was referring to my post but what I mean is this......a plane loses power and starts to fall from the sky but the pilot manages to crash land the plane leaving the plane smashed to bits but no 1 dies they are just wounded ..... Strait away every one starts shouting it's a miracle God has saved them. (Devine intervention) .....two weeks later bus crashes...everyone dies.......no mention of God there then

I'd call it a plane crash. That they fly at all would be the miracle. We'll know soon enough how the plane crashed, and why the injuries and damage occurred. That is simple science. For bus crash it's the same. Years ago I went to an accident on the Interstate highway. A tour bus, rolled over in the fog, and landed on it's side across the lanes of traffic. Three cars drove through the center, and nobody was injured. The people were sitting in the front of the bus, and the passengers of the cars benefitted from modern automotive design. God did create human beings who took the time to advance the species as a whole. So, it was Gods will, but no miracle. You say that people declared a miracle when there were survivors in your example. What of it?

 

ATB

What of it ? ......well I said it's funny how when something good happens it's a miracle but when something bad happens it's just bad luck....read my post what QB replied to .....I asked a question he answerd it .....that's what of it