foxbolter 447 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I think its the other way round mosby there's dogs in peoples kennels that shouldn't be there only so many excuses you can make for them some are crap but the owner wont admit you should never ever have to make an excuse for ur dog if it is fit and healthy Quote Link to post
Mosby 355 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 A good stockman knows the limits of his working stock. This "no excuses" mentality is what gets numpties putting hard pups in dig after dig, mangled and then quitting. Or people "testing" their first season terriers by pushing them to the limit. Most dogs including good ones can break from such use. But people who don't know better will get out and ruin the dogs anyway. You are right, a lot of terriers don't deserve their feed but a lot of guys with terriers don't deserve dogs to feed. 5 Quote Link to post
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 spot on mosby Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 They're not born or made. Look in the countryman's there's loads for sale 'will make 100% earth dogs' might go down that route ? 2 Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Zerky I did once get a ferret to work if that counts Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I was waiting for that mosby just getting the best out of you Quote Link to post
Zerky 133 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Zerky I did once get a ferret to work if that counts Don't belive that for one min, you couldn't get a nigger to work!! Quote Link to post
snizle06 202 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hit the nail on the head mosby Quote Link to post
the goat 642 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I got 3 terriers to work.....at the same time! Keep it quiet though Quote Link to post
wolfy 79 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 My god. Bred... You wouldn't take a Doberman and think it would be z great sheepdog, yes some seem to be born, but if you had the real breeding in front of you, the dog would be buzzing from it's line ,and yes the odd pup in a litter would inherit all the working attributes , and the rest would lie by the fire. Breeding breeding breeding to get the very best.. But then what do you consider Best. This is completely down to the human , my god if we didn't breed breed breed from the best you would very quickly have nowt . Born are the pups what's in them is bred bred bred. My god that's easy ... And I've heard people don't concider the bitches credentials when breeding pups???? Are you mad the mother is as important as the dog .have a read the question wrong. Men don't make the dog just put it in the right environment as any teacher would do. Born are you messing. I've a budgie here I'm going to take it to falconry see if it's born to it ???????? 1 Quote Link to post
pablo esc 1,598 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Maybe there bitches credentials are to good to use in work? Or the can't work very well? Quote Link to post
Thrush 181 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 My god. Bred... You wouldn't take a Doberman and think it would be z great sheepdog, yes some seem to be born, but if you had the real breeding in front of you, the dog would be buzzing from it's line ,and yes the odd pup in a litter would inherit all the working attributes , and the rest would lie by the fire. Breeding breeding breeding to get the very best.. But then what do you consider Best. This is completely down to the human , my god if we didn't breed breed breed from the best you would very quickly have nowt . Born are the pups what's in them is bred bred bred. My god that's easy ... And I've heard people don't concider the bitches credentials when breeding pups???? Are you mad the mother is as important as the dog .have a read the question wrong. Men don't make the dog just put it in the right environment as any teacher would do. Born are you messing. I've a budgie here I'm going to take it to falconry see if it's born to it ???????? What a f@&£@g stupid statement! We are talking about terriers bred for working, so obviously they are bred for that purpose. No one said anything about budgies or Doberman being sheepdogs WTF! The question quite simply was do we think good terriers are born or made? Obviously the breeder is going to ensure to the best of his ability that they are bred for the job, but anyone who knows terriers will tell you that this ensures nothing! They still may all fail, not just because of the owner but simply because they ain't got the minerals! They are born, dogs that are going to be great usually just are, from young you can see the difference, they have an edge, more forward confident, take everything in there stride nothing fazes them and when the time comes they just work given the opportunity to, and properly entered! I've seen dogs bred from rubbish do well and I've seen really well bred dogs (on paper!) be utter crap. I completely agree that they must be bred right but firmly beleive that even then they are born!!! 1 Quote Link to post
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