stop.end 4,079 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 lol... well if there was a fox in there minding its own business the terrier would find it also....cos the terriers business is to find foxes UNDERGROUND..... give your head a shake man..... Quote Link to post
leo1 134 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) so your saying a dog has to run an earth to know there's somethinv home, mine won't go under no matter how much scent my pup different though he would go in anywhere a month or so ago but he getting the just of things now Aimed at dyktos Edited March 8, 2015 by leo1 Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,783 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 lol... well if there was a fox in there minding its own business the terrier would find it also....cos the terriers business is to find foxes UNDERGROUND..... give your head a shake man..... You said the terrier would know the fox had gone away and wouldn't enter, now your saying it would enter and find a different fox? Make your feckin mind up and give your head a shake eh? BTW Leethedog, sorry for hijacking your thread Cheers, D 1 Quote Link to post
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 all this has come from you saying Can a dog tell if an earth is occupied from smelling at a hole? Can it feck witch is not true it obviously can because thats its job..all these diffrent scenarios your now offering still dont change that fact a terrier dose not need to travle a earth to tell if its ocupied no matter how big or how small they just no and if any one has one what needs to travle evry earth to tell if its occupied its not worth a wank 5 Quote Link to post
leo1 134 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 all this has come from you saying Can a dog tell if an earth is occupied from smelling at a hole? Can it feck witch is not true it obviously can because thats its job..all these diffrent scenarios your now offering still dont change that fact a terrier dose not need to travle a earth to tell if its ocupied no matter how big or how small they just no and if any one has one what needs to travle evry earth to tell if its occupied its not worth a wank Spot on ? Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,783 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 My point was that you can never say there is nothing at home without giving the dog a chance to enter. The dog may be right but conversely, it may not. 3 or 4 holers or so yes, but a fox might be a long way from any hole and as I said earlier a vixen at this time of year can give of little or no scent for any dog to detect. Go Figure. Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 what are you doing at the hole if your not giving the dog chance to enter? guessing if thers one at home? inspecting kick out under a magnifying glass? if thers one in the dog will enter if the dogs been brought on correct and nows its job it wont enter if thers not one home regardles of the size of the earth was you the lad who was out with the op and run a trusted dog threw after the dog on trial ??? Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 what are you doing at the hole if your not giving the dog chance to enter? guessing if thers one at home? inspecting kick out under a magnifying glass? if thers one in the dog will enter if the dogs been brought on correct and nows its job it wont enter if thers not one home regardles of the size of the earth was you the lad who was out with the op and run a trusted dog threw after the dog on trial ??? no he was not mate it was me the trusted dog definitely knows it's job the shite red one who looked the part who some charlatan tried to sell me wanted to drop in any hole he saw including a post hole ho hum he ain't my problem no more I WILL get a pup from good stock and do my best with what I have till then 4 Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 I don't know about earth work as I don't do any, but if a fox has been about near any of my dogs on walks and when out bushing etc it is blatantly obvious, so I would have thought a dog breed for the job can be trusted. When you say a vixen gives off very little or no scent this time or year, I am can honestly say they give off plenty enough to follow a line any time of year in my experience atb 1 Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 How does a good hound mark a hole without being entered some terriers will mark true like a hound on the lead on a entrance of hole 2 Quote Link to post
fireman 10,859 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 A call out i had the other weekend,first place a bout 8-10 holes spread out over 30 yrds or so,dog showed no interest what so ever in any but two of the holes at one end and entered in one showed at the other rentered and bolted a vixen which was shot,next place small little 4 holer 75 yrds from the big place,dog didn't want to know at the first 3 holes then i felt the wind on my face and i thought about the natural ventalation of a earth so i tried him at the last hole down wind and he flew in faster than he ever has and the dog fox was soon delt with .Some holes hold scent some don't and you just got to learn to trust the dog in saying yes or no and that takes time in team work but i have known some terriers that did cartwheels on the lead when getting close to an occupied earth and they never lied when doing so and we often wondered how the hell they knew when still 20 yrds away from it??? .. 2 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 The chocolate tea pot if offered this dog don't take it 1 Quote Link to post
undertaker 831 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Seen that dog for sale on some site Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Comes from west London Croydon way I believe Quote Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted March 9, 2015 Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 Well went out this morning with a man who has a dog that can be trusted took along the red dog I had on trial the dog lied on mark laid in a earth barking at nothing run the trusted dog through just to check so the one I had with the red dog last week must of been beginners luck owell no money had changed hands yet so back it goes edited to add we checked probably 15 earths so not all this in one place no one home any where but it was a nice warm day out Did you just try the dog the once in empty earth, I bought a black dog years ago that false marked the first earth I tried him in, I then dug him in the next earth that was holding, this went on for a few more times he'd false mark but if there was 1 in we would get a dig, ths went on for a few weeks then he stopped false marking Quote Link to post
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