Otters

[young man 225]

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

 

 

 

just my 2p worth

 

the only dog ive ever had killed in action was by a otter we were looking at mink traps and she slipped to ground she was a nice lal white sealyham from welshpool called taffy....their was a slurping sound a lal bow wave and the dog popped up stone dead in the river the otter was the biggest ive every seen crossed the river and away it went..never to be seen again

 

ive caught them in cage traps and had a good look at them up close and ive handled roadkill ones and they are pure 100% muscle more so than a badger of fox they dont have much gape in their bite but the head is like a staffie just built for short sharp bites..... they can turn on a penny and roll in a bottle for agaility the only thing that could beat them would be a ferret on crack!

 

also i have a very very real first hand exsperiance of the otters speed,agility,strength and bite! not to mention intelligence!

beacuse i had one as a pet for about 2 and a half years in my static caravan...think ring of bright water and your not far wrong, it was called honey and was as loyal as any dog ive ever had and would follow me around on the quad and sleep round my neck like a scarf

 

i have known of a similar story perthshire keeper, my uncle reared a couple from pups down through the years amazing to see how tame they get, this was before the protection act of 1976. a license could be obtained to hunt otters in ireland for a period after this act, but if memory serves me right the packs agreed to stop hunting otters and instead all agreed to change to hunting mink as they were vermin and no licence needed, and like all good sporting hunters if the species was in danger they should be rightly left alone......here in munster it has been documented to have one of the healthiest otter populations throughout europe.

 

i pulled honey from a flooded river with my crook...i thought it was a mink and was going to stove it in!

it was about the size of a jill ferret when i got it...but grew like a mushroom, on minnows rainbows rabbit and dog meat

 

this was in 2010/2011

 

What became of Honey,PK.

 

i in my bloody wisdom!!! when i come back home decided that a small village wasnt the place for a otter nearly 3 ft long

so i gave her to a animal charity that looks after wild animals in the understanding she would be looked after in a proper sanctuary or sent to some one they knew who had rescue otters in captivity and knew what they needed....

 

so she followed me into the place at my heal with the odd pursed lip squeek when she got distracted, with her blanket and draught excluder cusion she had since she was a kit....2 weeks later i got a phone call saying she was dead, they said she had some thing wrong with her stomach but i think she just pined away for me...why i wasnt told sooner i dont know

 

but i was bloody heart broken!

[fox digger 1,086]

 

 

 

 

just my 2p worth

 

the only dog ive ever had killed in action was by a otter we were looking at mink traps and she slipped to ground she was a nice lal white sealyham from welshpool called taffy....their was a slurping sound a lal bow wave and the dog popped up stone dead in the river the otter was the biggest ive every seen crossed the river and away it went..never to be seen again

 

ive caught them in cage traps and had a good look at them up close and ive handled roadkill ones and they are pure 100% muscle more so than a badger of fox they dont have much gape in their bite but the head is like a staffie just built for short sharp bites..... they can turn on a penny and roll in a bottle for agaility the only thing that could beat them would be a ferret on crack!

 

also i have a very very real first hand exsperiance of the otters speed,agility,strength and bite! not to mention intelligence!

beacuse i had one as a pet for about 2 and a half years in my static caravan...think ring of bright water and your not far wrong, it was called honey and was as loyal as any dog ive ever had and would follow me around on the quad and sleep round my neck like a scarf

 

i have known of a similar story perthshire keeper, my uncle reared a couple from pups down through the years amazing to see how tame they get, this was before the protection act of 1976. a license could be obtained to hunt otters in ireland for a period after this act, but if memory serves me right the packs agreed to stop hunting otters and instead all agreed to change to hunting mink as they were vermin and no licence needed, and like all good sporting hunters if the species was in danger they should be rightly left alone......here in munster it has been documented to have one of the healthiest otter populations throughout europe.

 

i pulled honey from a flooded river with my crook...i thought it was a mink and was going to stove it in!

it was about the size of a jill ferret when i got it...but grew like a mushroom, on minnows rainbows rabbit and dog meat

 

this was in 2010/2011

 

What became of Honey,PK.

 

i in my bloody wisdom!!! when i come back home decided that a small village wasnt the place for a otter nearly 3 ft long

so i gave her to a animal charity that looks after wild animals in the understanding she would be looked after in a proper sanctuary or sent to some one they knew who had rescue otters in captivity and knew what they needed....

 

so she followed me into the place at my heal with the odd pursed lip squeek when she got distracted, with her blanket and draught excluder cusion she had since she was a kit....2 weeks later i got a phone call saying she was dead, they said she had some thing wrong with her stomach but i think she just pined away for me...why i wasnt told sooner i dont know

 

but i was bloody heart broken!

 

 

awwe shit..... horrible end to a really great story mate, thats a shame......

[J Darcy 5,871]

 

 

 

 

just my 2p worth

 

the only dog ive ever had killed in action was by a otter we were looking at mink traps and she slipped to ground she was a nice lal white sealyham from welshpool called taffy....their was a slurping sound a lal bow wave and the dog popped up stone dead in the river the otter was the biggest ive every seen crossed the river and away it went..never to be seen again

 

ive caught them in cage traps and had a good look at them up close and ive handled roadkill ones and they are pure 100% muscle more so than a badger of fox they dont have much gape in their bite but the head is like a staffie just built for short sharp bites..... they can turn on a penny and roll in a bottle for agaility the only thing that could beat them would be a ferret on crack!

 

also i have a very very real first hand exsperiance of the otters speed,agility,strength and bite! not to mention intelligence!

beacuse i had one as a pet for about 2 and a half years in my static caravan...think ring of bright water and your not far wrong, it was called honey and was as loyal as any dog ive ever had and would follow me around on the quad and sleep round my neck like a scarf

 

i have known of a similar story perthshire keeper, my uncle reared a couple from pups down through the years amazing to see how tame they get, this was before the protection act of 1976. a license could be obtained to hunt otters in ireland for a period after this act, but if memory serves me right the packs agreed to stop hunting otters and instead all agreed to change to hunting mink as they were vermin and no licence needed, and like all good sporting hunters if the species was in danger they should be rightly left alone......here in munster it has been documented to have one of the healthiest otter populations throughout europe.

 

i pulled honey from a flooded river with my crook...i thought it was a mink and was going to stove it in!

it was about the size of a jill ferret when i got it...but grew like a mushroom, on minnows rainbows rabbit and dog meat

 

this was in 2010/2011

 

What became of Honey,PK.

 

i in my bloody wisdom!!! when i come back home decided that a small village wasnt the place for a otter nearly 3 ft long

so i gave her to a animal charity that looks after wild animals in the understanding she would be looked after in a proper sanctuary or sent to some one they knew who had rescue otters in captivity and knew what they needed....

 

so she followed me into the place at my heal with the odd pursed lip squeek when she got distracted, with her blanket and draught excluder cusion she had since she was a kit....2 weeks later i got a phone call saying she was dead, they said she had some thing wrong with her stomach but i think she just pined away for me...why i wasnt told sooner i dont know

 

but i was bloody heart broken!

 

It's a sad story....

[smasher 1,055]

 

 

 

 

just my 2p worth

 

the only dog ive ever had killed in action was by a otter we were looking at mink traps and she slipped to ground she was a nice lal white sealyham from welshpool called taffy....their was a slurping sound a lal bow wave and the dog popped up stone dead in the river the otter was the biggest ive every seen crossed the river and away it went..never to be seen again

 

ive caught them in cage traps and had a good look at them up close and ive handled roadkill ones and they are pure 100% muscle more so than a badger of fox they dont have much gape in their bite but the head is like a staffie just built for short sharp bites..... they can turn on a penny and roll in a bottle for agaility the only thing that could beat them would be a ferret on crack!

 

also i have a very very real first hand exsperiance of the otters speed,agility,strength and bite! not to mention intelligence!

beacuse i had one as a pet for about 2 and a half years in my static caravan...think ring of bright water and your not far wrong, it was called honey and was as loyal as any dog ive ever had and would follow me around on the quad and sleep round my neck like a scarf

i have known of a similar story perthshire keeper, my uncle reared a couple from pups down through the years amazing to see how tame they get, this was before the protection act of 1976. a license could be obtained to hunt otters in ireland for a period after this act, but if memory serves me right the packs agreed to stop hunting otters and instead all agreed to change to hunting mink as they were vermin and no licence needed, and like all good sporting hunters if the species was in danger they should be rightly left alone......here in munster it has been documented to have one of the healthiest otter populations throughout europe.

 

i pulled honey from a flooded river with my crook...i thought it was a mink and was going to stove it in!

it was about the size of a jill ferret when i got it...but grew like a mushroom, on minnows rainbows rabbit and dog meat

 

this was in 2010/2011

 

What became of Honey,PK.

 

i in my bloody wisdom!!! when i come back home decided that a small village wasnt the place for a otter nearly 3 ft long

so i gave her to a animal charity that looks after wild animals in the understanding she would be looked after in a proper sanctuary or sent to some one they knew who had rescue otters in captivity and knew what they needed....

 

so she followed me into the place at my heal with the odd pursed lip squeek when she got distracted, with her blanket and draught excluder cusion she had since she was a kit....2 weeks later i got a phone call saying she was dead, they said she had some thing wrong with her stomach but i think she just pined away for me...why i wasnt told sooner i dont know

 

but i was bloody heart broken!

 

That was a real shame P.K I had a similar thing happen to me albeit with a stoat I had since it were a kit,it used to live in an old welligton boot in an enclosure I had made for it,it would come out of the boot at 100mph and dance about like a

ferret on speed an go over on its back and play with your fingers similar to the way a kitten would,was goin away for a week and gave it down to a pal to mind for the week along with a bag of starlings,when I got back he told me it were dead,he put it in a cage along with his ferret to see how they would get a long and the stoat went bananas so he removed the ferret but the stoat was dead in the box the next day,to say I was sick would be an under statement,a bit off topic I know but your story just brought back memories

[jetro 5,349]

Neighbours had one for years as a pet. It used to go down to the shore during the day to catch small fish and return a while later. It would go every where with his owner. It ended up in Dublin zoo in the end.

atb j

[jetro 5,349]

Just saw on done deal Asian otters for sale for 900 each in wick low.

Atb j

[fat man 4,741]

I've read many opinions about Otters here , but, no account of a terrier being able to work an Otter to ground without heavy punishment taken.....The accounts I've heard about when a terrier encounters an Otter in a river bank or ground hole is the terrier is punished badly in a short amount of time, and the Otter goes his merry way none the worse for ware.

Both that i dug and ive only dug 2 in 40 years lol,with the same dog,little bullxrussell and he took very little grief of either of them and he was not really the baying type,more take hold and hang on,lol maybe he just got lucky.

[spindolero 1,111]

My Dads friend had a Jack Russell, which was a Pet, given to him to run around his Stables. The thing had to go from her old Home for biting Milkmen and Postmens Trousers, with Police regularly knocking on the Door. Sounds funny but she Barked at everything, ripped up Mail, Newspapers and Carpets too. My Dads friend thought she was funny and 'game' (lol) and said he'd have her with him.

To cut an even longer story very short, she used to get borrowed by my Dad and his mutual friends for Mooching about, she used to retrieve. It materialised into ripping up Papers and Mail though. She earned a good reputation as a go anywhere and work anything Terrier as she got older. She bolted several Otters, along with Foxes and even Badgers, but only ever had a split Ear tip from Wire and a few nips here and there. She was a cur in every way, a Pet in the House and for chasing Cats and Rats around the Sheds and pens. A noisy, stroppy pain in the arse called 'Peggy'........she accidently did her Job...........lol.

Like has been said, it takes a certain style of Terrier to work some things and a certain type of guy to accept that style of Terrier.

 

I take it you didn't base your kennel on her then Shamo ?

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

 

I've read many opinions about Otters here , but, no account of a terrier being able to work an Otter to ground without heavy punishment taken.....The accounts I've heard about when a terrier encounters an Otter in a river bank or ground hole is the terrier is punished badly in a short amount of time, and the Otter goes his merry way none the worse for ware.

 

Both that i dug and ive only dug 2 in 40 years lol,with the same dog,little bullxrussell and he took very little grief of either of them and he was not really the baying type,more take hold and hang on,lol maybe he just got lucky.

Did the dog do the second one on a zimmer frame lol

[pablo esc 1,598]

 

 

I've read many opinions about Otters here , but, no account of a terrier being able to work an Otter to ground without heavy punishment taken.....The accounts I've heard about when a terrier encounters an Otter in a river bank or ground hole is the terrier is punished badly in a short amount of time, and the Otter goes his merry way none the worse for ware.

Both that i dug and ive only dug 2 in 40 years lol,with the same dog,little bullxrussell and he took very little grief of either of them and he was not really the baying type,more take hold and hang on,lol maybe he just got lucky.

Did the dog do the second one on a zimmer frame lol

maybe it done it, going over a field in a jeep

[Furry chaser 17]

 

 

I've read many opinions about Otters here , but, no account of a terrier being able to work an Otter to ground without heavy punishment taken.....The accounts I've heard about when a terrier encounters an Otter in a river bank or ground hole is the terrier is punished badly in a short amount of time, and the Otter goes his merry way none the worse for ware.

Both that i dug and ive only dug 2 in 40 years lol,with the same dog,little bullxrussell and he took very little grief of either of them and he was not really the baying type,more take hold and hang on,lol maybe he just got lucky.

Did the dog do the second one on a zimmer frame lol

He must of bin some dog lol

[Fieldsporthunter 1,864]

I've read many opinions about Otters here , but, no account of a terrier being able to work an Otter to ground without heavy punishment taken.....The accounts I've heard about when a terrier encounters an Otter in a river bank or ground hole is the terrier is punished badly in a short amount of time, and the Otter goes his merry way none the worse for ware.

This is true. This is second hand information as a friend of a friend told me but obviously I can't remember which friend it was. The punishment given out by a otter can be servere. They make slashing laserations which are hard to heal and are a bugger for infections if not treated correctly.

[THE GENERAL 1,982]

It all depends on what type of terrier is being used. Will a "bolting dog" work an otter better than a "digging dog" ? ?

Edited March 14, 2015 by THE GENERAL

[fat man 4,741]

 

 

I've read many opinions about Otters here , but, no account of a terrier being able to work an Otter to ground without heavy punishment taken.....The accounts I've heard about when a terrier encounters an Otter in a river bank or ground hole is the terrier is punished badly in a short amount of time, and the Otter goes his merry way none the worse for ware.

Both that i dug and ive only dug 2 in 40 years lol,with the same dog,little bullxrussell and he took very little grief of either of them and he was not really the baying type,more take hold and hang on,lol maybe he just got lucky.

Did the dog do the second one on a zimmer frame lol

 

Good one FD,no lol,both dug within a year or so of each other and that was back early 80s,bolted 1 from a drain 2 year ago and dog never showed,picked him up on locater and he working away.We thought we were diging to another otter but opened up to a dog fox,both in the 1 drain.