jultaylor1972 2 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Ive just been given some great ferreting permission on the sand dunes near where I live - Its a 5 minute walk which is even better. Part of the conditions stipulate that 'There shall be NO deliberate digging or other damage to the dunes'. The area is part of a Nature Reserve and there is a public footpath running right through my permission. So, here's my question/ problem...If one of my ferrets gets stuck how can I get her out without digging? And where can I buy a live trap so as to catch them safely should I need to leave them? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Sandy soil's the last place ye Want to go excavating for ferrets anyway, Jules! Cause more bloody cave ins than that ... Might it not be possible to use some other method of removing the buns? Quote Link to post
Hob&Jill 258 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Just give them a good feed before they go out and keep quiet around the warrens, not much else you can do Dont enter any ferrets after 3pm either, just to give a good time before it gets dark. Just google or ebay 'mink trap' they should all be suitable. Quote Link to post
richie 1 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 i always take one of these out with me just in case..... never needed it though. best thing about it, it has a entrance both sides and the activation plate is in the middle that closes both sides at the same time.. http://www.solwayfeeders.com/productsdetai...STOCK_CODE=2201 Quote Link to post
stubby 175 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I personaly would'ent wanna put a fert down, if digging wernt allowed, maybe look into the DELIBERATE DIGGING meaning??, if its a nature reaserve, surely you digging to an injured animal is ok?? Quote Link to post
jultaylor1972 2 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I personaly would'ent wanna put a fert down, if digging wernt allowed, maybe look into the DELIBERATE DIGGING meaning??, if its a nature reaserve, surely you digging to an injured animal is ok?? Thats what I think too The sets are so big its unreal!! I went and had a good look around this morning and to be honest - there's so many rabbit warrens I dont know where to start Long nets may be the best way forward? As well as purse nets and a good few bods at the ready!! I may have to get some advice and Im hoping Woodga will come and have a look and tell me whats the best way forward? Hint, Hint!!! Quote Link to post
jultaylor1972 2 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Sandy soil's the last place ye Want to go excavating for ferrets anyway, Jules! Cause more bloody cave ins than that ... Might it not be possible to use some other method of removing the buns? There would be an excellent night with an air rifle and a great day with purse nets, ferrets and some rabbiting terriers but my permission clearly states only ferrets and nets Its a local Council contract smack, bang in the middle of a nature reserve. Its huge too!! And I have a feeling it will lead to bigger and better things Any suggestions will be very much appreciated Ditchy. Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Woodga's a bit preoccupied, Jules; At least he was the last we heard. Ye'll have to forgive the man. Ironically though, it's kind of circling straight back to Woodga ~ unless Mr Waters might heed the call of a lady in distress? ~ Only, I can't help thinking of Hoop Wires. Yes. I know. It's a designated Nature Reserve and all the shit that infers. But; They have the sense to want the rabbits thinned ....? There's rule bending! Now they'll just have to bend some more. Here's what I'd tell them; People: Ye want these rabbits thinning and so ye've called on someone with the knowledge and experiemce to handle the task. Fine. Only my knowledge and experience tells me that it's Not going to happen how You imagined it might. I enter my ferrets, in view of that footpath? Oh calamity! I'll be berated. Have the Police and arsepca called about me. I may well be physically assaulted. None of that'll feel good. Nor will it look good in the local media On top of that; The very nature of the ground makes it unsuited to ferreting anyway. The public access makes it unsuited to shooting. Trapping the burys is out - public access / view. Burys can't be gassed ~ public access. We can't have Dogs dashing about a Nature Reserve. That leaves Only One Way. I'll have to wire them. (Don't say " Snares " to people like this, Jules. Makes them shudder. Half of them think that's a Gin Trap anyway) Point out the Wires ye'll be using will be set out of sight of the foot path, back away where the rabbits are going to feed. They'll be set in such a way and at a height which won't endanger innocent creatures. They'll be fitted with Stops, lest anything bigger walks into one. That they're perfectly 'Humane' Hardest bit of all, of course, will be measuring ye exact tone when they say 'No, thanks. We'll find someone who Will ferret it'. And you have to firmly but 'nicely' assert that all they're going to get is ignorant young amateurs whithout the knowledge to spot the problems, and who will fade away once they've cherry picked the ground a little. Or else a Very costly, full time Pro', who will stand out like a punch in the mouth on their next Treasurers Report. For all their bunny hugging supporter members to see Then they shake their heads. You shake their hands. Leave them ye card and walk away with a straight back ~ and relax till they prove ye right and call ye to ask a bit more about those " Wires " Quote Link to post
Guest Bigbob Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 All you can do is do what we did in the days before locators, well feed ferrets start early and finish early dont risk trying to get that last bunnie out to make up the numbers .And if a ferret killed my father and uncle just continued ferreting and left me there waiting till the ferret came out and picked me up on the way home .What do you think kids are for ????? Quote Link to post
jultaylor1972 2 Posted November 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Woodga's a bit preoccupied, Jules; At least he was the last we heard. Ye'll have to forgive the man. Ironically though, it's kind of circling straight back to Woodga ~ unless Mr Waters might heed the call of a lady in distress? ~ Only, I can't help thinking of Hoop Wires. Yes. I know. It's a designated Nature Reserve and all the shit that infers. But; They have the sense to want the rabbits thinned ....? There's rule bending! Now they'll just have to bend some more. Here's what I'd tell them; People: Ye want these rabbits thinning and so ye've called on someone with the knowledge and experiemce to handle the task. Fine. Only my knowledge and experience tells me that it's Not going to happen how You imagined it might. I enter my ferrets, in view of that footpath? Oh calamity! I'll be berated. Have the Police and arsepca called about me. I may well be physically assaulted. None of that'll feel good. Nor will it look good in the local media On top of that; The very nature of the ground makes it unsuited to ferreting anyway. The public access makes it unsuited to shooting. Trapping the burys is out - public access / view. Burys can't be gassed ~ public access. We can't have Dogs dashing about a Nature Reserve. That leaves Only One Way. I'll have to wire them. (Don't say " Snares " to people like this, Jules. Makes them shudder. Half of them think that's a Gin Trap anyway) Point out the Wires ye'll be using will be set out of sight of the foot path, back away where the rabbits are going to feed. They'll be set in such a way and at a height which won't endanger innocent creatures. They'll be fitted with Stops, lest anything bigger walks into one. That they're perfectly 'Humane' Hardest bit of all, of course, will be measuring ye exact tone when they say 'No, thanks. We'll find someone who Will ferret it'. And you have to firmly but 'nicely' assert that all they're going to get is ignorant young amateurs whithout the knowledge to spot the problems, and who will fade away once they've cherry picked the ground a little. Or else a Very costly, full time Pro', who will stand out like a punch in the mouth on their next Treasurers Report. For all their bunny hugging supporter members to see Then they shake their heads. You shake their hands. Leave them ye card and walk away with a straight back ~ and relax till they prove ye right and call ye to ask a bit more about those " Wires " Cheers Ditch, thats good advice Ive had a damn good look around there today - 5 hours to be exact My terriers are still flat out! There's a good few places where I think using the ferrets will be OK. Quite far away from the public footpath with some great open sets The beach warden wants some 'eaters' so hopefully when I arrive at the door with a good few for him I'll bring up 'Wires' and see what he says? He used to be a gamekeeper and has friends in great places - so with a bit of luck (And some effort ) this may lead to great things!? Of course - having my written permission on local council headed paper might just persuade some of the local farmers to give me a bit of permission So far, so good. Quote Link to post
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 You really should be show cased, Jule; As an example of what Can be accomplished by just getting ones finger out and Trying! Whilst, all the more often of late, we're seeing these. " I have no permision: Give Me It! " posts cropping up here, all we ever hear from you is of how ye've damn well gone out there, Found and Earned ye right to sport, with good manners and hard work! Bloody good on ye too! Regards the rest of it? I couldn't agree more with our BigBob there. But I know my history and recognise that Canute wasn't the idiot some portray him as. He Knew he couldn't turn back the tide. Tried to, just to show the true idiots who thought he could that they were wrong. And nor am I going to flog my own dead horse about ferreting as man has for millenia. Not now that " Ferreting " has slid down into " Rabbit Digging ". You carry ye spade, if ye must. Only I'd sincerely suggest ye keep well away from that foot path. Sandy or otherwise. It's never happened to me. But a friend assured me, from experience, that when about eight of the b*stards turn up and you have ye ferrets down; It becomes a very lonely place. There's no bravado. No number ye can call. Not even any fifteen year olds with key boards to smash out " Born To Hunt! F*ck The Ban! ". There's just you. Them. And the very earnest wish that it wasn't happening. Nature Reserve. Foot Path. Girl with blood and fur on her hands? Please don't put yeself in that position, Jule. An ex 'Keeper should understand that. Pick ye times and places well. Do what ye can. Stay safe. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 A mate of mine smokes 'em out when he can't dig. Never had to do it myself, but he swears by it. Quote Link to post
micky 3,325 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Ive just been given some great ferreting permission on the sand dunes near where I live - Its a 5 minute walk which is even better. Part of the conditions stipulate that 'There shall be NO deliberate digging or other damage to the dunes'. The area is part of a Nature Reserve and there is a public footpath running right through my permission. So, here's my question/ problem...If one of my ferrets gets stuck how can I get her out without digging? And where can I buy a live trap so as to catch them safely should I need to leave them? Thanks in advance. i once ferreted some sand dunes near to Heacham/Snettersham in Norfolk ,we done very well in the small setts till it came to a dig,then even a foot down was hard work.the old chap we were with said it was a waste of time ferretting the big warrens and they were not suitable for trapping either,he said, in years gone by the rabbits would be stunk out with paper soaked in parrafin, then trapped in the smaller setts . Quote Link to post
ferretman 0 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 I personaly would'ent wanna put a fert down, if digging wernt allowed, maybe look into the DELIBERATE DIGGING meaning??, if its a nature reaserve, surely you digging to an injured animal is ok??i agree with that stubby Quote Link to post
Guest jason1888 Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 how about blocking up all the holes and then returning a couple of hours later or even the next day I have had to do this twice before and it worked or another one that has worked with me is to put down another ferret to move the one woth the rabbit this has worked with me before and also you can try whistling down the burrow to get the ferrert to come out this only works if when you whistle to the ferrets when there in the hutch i ust to hve two ferrets that would run after you if you whistled on them and they were great workers hopes this helps good luck on your new permision Quote Link to post
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